fighter1976 Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 Hi! What is the precise way to use the trimmer when flying the Huey? Without it it's a nightmare to fly. Or any other tips to fly smoother and easier?Thanks!
159th_Falcon Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 Patience, Practice and Experimentation. The only right way of using the trimmer is the way it works best for you. And remember, flying smoothly is the art of doing nothing.:joystick: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:)
Rammit Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 I never fly with the trimmer unless I am flying straight and level for a long period of time, I like to know exactly where the virtual stick Is and the easiest way for me to do that, is to have it tied directly to the position of my stick. It is a quick way to find out what the helo is doing "If the MWS didn't see it, it didn't happen"
159th_Falcon Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 Problem is that my stick leaves the desk whenever i try such a thing. (also got an x52pro) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:)
fighter1976 Posted August 30, 2013 Author Posted August 30, 2013 No, no, what I meant was How do i use the trimmer? I push the trim button when I make changes with the cyclic, or I keep the trim button continously pushed down all the flight?
TimeKilla Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) As soon as the Huey builds up speed and is moving into forward flight, I'll be trimming so it will be at the point where the smallest movements from my joystick center point will be effective in controlling her no matter if you're in a turn or flying straight. Takes the stress off your hand from holding weird positions on the joystick also. OP: Depends normally just push once, But if am in the KA-50 theres times when it feels better to hold and let go once in the correct position. Best to just see what works for you. Edited August 30, 2013 by TimeKilla Noticed the OPs reply. :joystick: YouTube :pilotfly: TimeKilla on Flight Sims over at YouTube.
Suchacz Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 No, no, what I meant was How do i use the trimmer? I push the trim button when I make changes with the cyclic, or I keep the trim button continously pushed down all the flight? You can only tap it and it will hold its new position. It is pretty different from Ka-50, because in Huey, it is not connected to any autopilot/SAS, your cyclic inputs are directly transfered to the swashplate. Holding down the rim button does not have any function here also, imho there is no force relieving from the collective stick here. Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2
IonicRipper Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 ^2x Just move the stick where you want it to stay, hit the force trim button and center your joystick. i5 4590 @ 3.77GHz | GTX 1060 6GB | 16GB 1600MHz DDR3 | 1TB HDD+500GB HDD | Win10 Home X64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
lorenzoj Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 There is an option also that effects the delay you have to re-center the stick. Good to try it both ways to see which you personally prefer. There is a bit of "art" involved in trimming. You do have to play with it and practice to get the subtleties worked out
tantonovich Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 Problem is that my stick leaves the desk whenever i try such a thing. (also got an x52pro) I too have an X-52 Pro and had the same problem at first, once I discovered that the trimmer was more trouble than it's worth. My solution: Get a couple of small zip-ties, wrap them around 2 coils of the centering spring and zip them down tight. This may take some experimenting to get the right feel for your flying style, just play around with it a bit. The end result is a lighter feel on the joystick, without it hopping when you are really needing that forward cyclic, it dramatically improved my controllability with the X52 Pro. Hope that helps!
Jazzerman Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) The force trim has certainly been improved and when activated it doesn't seem to bounce like it used to. I'm also using an x52 pro with zip ties on the spring and I had no problems using force trim after some practice, but now it seems perfect. Give it another go. Edited September 6, 2013 by Jazzerman
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