edineygomes Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 I can not fly any helicopter ( Ka-50, MI-8 ) without him start to swing sideways and losing control. When I start the engines, landing gear moves to the right. When I apply more force to take flight, the helicopter pulls to the same side. I'm using the joystick Thrustmaster Hotas X. Does anyone know why this involuntary movement?
Nopileus Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 The Mi-8 has a massive main rotor which creates a lot of torque, it seems that is enough to turn the helicopter even with idle throttle/collective. Combined with the free spinning front wheel that ends in you rotating endlessly. You have to counter the torque using the pedals controls or what ever device you have mapped to them.
edineygomes Posted September 25, 2013 Author Posted September 25, 2013 The Mi-8 has a massive main rotor which creates a lot of torque, it seems that is enough to turn the helicopter even with idle throttle/collective. Combined with the free spinning front wheel that ends in you rotating endlessly. You have to counter the torque using the pedals controls or what ever device you have mapped to them. The Ka-50 is also suffering from this problem then? I enabled the option "Game Flight mode" and the joystick does not work, it was not yet implemented this option?
IonicRipper Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 The Ka-50 shouldn't have that problem since its a coaxial design (2 main rotors spinning in opposite directions.) i5 4590 @ 3.77GHz | GTX 1060 6GB | 16GB 1600MHz DDR3 | 1TB HDD+500GB HDD | Win10 Home X64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Nopileus Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 Exactly, the Ka-50 has two rotors that cancel each others torque out, this is also the reason why it does not need an anti torque rotor in the back. The Huey however uses a conventional design and does require the use of pedals to counter the torque. Game Mode does indeed not work in the Mi-8 yet if i remember that correctly.
joey45 Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 Open the controls position dialog thingy 'Right ALT & Enter' I believe and see if your controls are centred.. Only shows in cockpit view. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
IonicRipper Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 Right Ctrl + Enter i5 4590 @ 3.77GHz | GTX 1060 6GB | 16GB 1600MHz DDR3 | 1TB HDD+500GB HDD | Win10 Home X64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
edineygomes Posted September 26, 2013 Author Posted September 26, 2013 Open the controls position dialog thingy 'Right ALT & Enter' I believe and see if your controls are centred.. Only shows in cockpit view. My controls are centralized, will conduct another test and compensate with the rudder. Thanks to everyone for the help!
lorenzoj Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) Make sure your front wheel brake is locked when you start up. Before you try to lift off, make sure to set the Pitch/Roll channel and the Yaw channel to On and it will help a lot to keep your nose straight when you lift off. After you gain some altitude and build up some forward speed you can disable the Yaw channel if you wish. Performing basic flight maneuvers with the Yaw channel on and off requires different techniques which take some time and practice to become comfortable with. At different times you will likely want the channel on or off. And of course you will want to make friends with the Trim function. All three helicopters have noticeably different "Trim" functions that also take some time and practice to get comfy with... Edit: I misspoke above. You will be locking the main wheel brakes but this will reduce the potential side movement of the nose quite a lot Edited September 26, 2013 by lorenzoj
edineygomes Posted September 26, 2013 Author Posted September 26, 2013 Make sure your front wheel brake is locked when you start up. Before you try to lift off, make sure to set the Pitch/Roll channel and the Yaw channel to On and it will help a lot to keep your nose straight when you lift off. After you gain some altitude and build up some forward speed you can disable the Yaw channel if you wish. Performing basic flight maneuvers with the Yaw channel on and off requires different techniques which take some time and practice to become comfortable with. At different times you will likely want the channel on or off. And of course you will want to make friends with the Trim function. All three helicopters have noticeably different "Trim" functions that also take some time and practice to get comfy with... which key to lock the front wheel? The brake is active (LSHIFT + W) but even then she turns the wheel.
AlphaOneSix Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 There is no lock for the front wheel, and no brakes either.
lorenzoj Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) You can't lock the front wheel but setting the main wheel brake will reduce the movement of the nose quite a lot while you're getting ready to lift off. At least you won't be turning in a circle. I find the Mi-8 moves very little on the ramp with the brake set I find that when you release the brake I usually get a little nose movement to the right - apply pressure to the left pedal. Then as you increase collective the nose will start to move to the left - apply pressure to the right pedal as required. Normal for any helicopter with a single main rotor and a tail rotor. Of course the Huey pulls right and the Mi-8 pulls left as you apply power. Edited September 26, 2013 by lorenzoj
IonicRipper Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 There is no lock for the front wheel, and no brakes either. Huh? :huh: i5 4590 @ 3.77GHz | GTX 1060 6GB | 16GB 1600MHz DDR3 | 1TB HDD+500GB HDD | Win10 Home X64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
dahui Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 Huh? :huh: we're talking about the FRONT Wheel... Not the Main ;) A lot of Aircraft have no frontwheel brakes... even the Hawker Hunter and Venom/Vampire ;)
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