Woodstock Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Hi @ll and S! During my career as a LockOn online squad pilot I encountered two noteworthy efforts to boost the community´s international/intersquad activities: One being the late Crimean Airwars (CAW) online campaign featuring promising mixed fighter-bomber wars. The other one being the venerable LomacLeague (LL) http://www.lomacleague.com/index.php by S77th-Dante featuring gunzo, heaters-only and unrestricted (BVR) ladder action for single-pilot-, two-pilot- and unlimited-pilot-teams. I recognize the admin workload problems crippling CAW but as for the LL there is an existing league system with rules, missions, mod and reporting system ready to use. Over the last year, the LomacLeague suffered from the general recession of interest in LockOn that is slowly undermining the community, which is understandable, given the age of the game. More and more pilots and teams quit and wandered off to mind their own business or to nowhere... From former 70+ players in the 1vs.1 ladder we are now down to only 5. And that despite the European Dogfight Champion 2005, =RvE=Paploo, joined the ladder only 2 months ago. It´s getting boring to always fight against the same two or three guys...! I see the huge amount of interest still present in this game and I don´t see any good reason not to revive the grand old online ladder of this community! If you lead a squad and occasionally organize yourself some wars against other squads, why not use the LomacLeague for setting up the match and get the chance to meet further possible squadwar opponents? If you love dogfight, why not challenge the official european champion in a well organised ladder system to see if you´re up to it? In times where for several reasons community member numbers shrink around the globe we have to consolidate and focus our efforts and activities on things like one big online league that provides enough diversity for the veterans while being big enough to stand out and attract new community members. Are you a vet that even only hazily remembers the fun he had in the good ol´ days? - Rejoin! Are you a newbie that considers himself combat-ready and that hears from all this for the first time? Join the LomacLeague! Woody out. 1 "For aviators like us, the sky is not the limit - it's our home!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cali Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 I had a blast in CAW, never played the other one. CAW or something like it needs to make a comeback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
504MrWolf Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 CAW 1.12 is on its way people !!!! We have come up with a better and more manageable Campaign system which we are currently testing in-house, keep your mk1's peeled and pointing to the CAW site in the coming months for news. We hope to see the return before the summer of 2006 :D Wolfie. www.VVS504.co.uk www.lockonskins.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Posted January 25, 2006 Author Share Posted January 25, 2006 That´s great news, Wolfie, thanks for the heads-up! JaBoG32 will be happy to participate again! Now back to LomacLeague: CAW and LL are no competing features, they serve different interests. CAW has mixed missions with official inter-squad preparations and briefings; has a developing political background story and only two sides where people and squads can sign up and fly side by side for their coalition. LL is totally different and has much more e-sports character with ladders, rankings, stats and is much more flexible for the individual player/team to set up match times. It has much less organisational workload and offers great fun for those who prefer or don´t mind fighting in a more sterile and arena-like environment. Since both systems have different appeal they perfectly coexist in an active online pilots life. I enjoyed both of them at the same time for the diversitiy they offer and I had no problem keeping up simultaneous activity. In contrast to CAW the LomacLeague does not need some more months for its comeback. It is there and ready, you can sign up today and have your first match this weekend. All it needs is people willing to overcome the first few months with still only few participants. It´s a vicious circle for the good and for the bad: the more players, the more attractive for new ones and vice versa. I think it would be worth trying, all we need is the will to lower our expectations at the beginning and stand true and wait for the "masses" to come. Are you willing to turn this vicious circle into a good and prosperous one? This project needs you! 1 "For aviators like us, the sky is not the limit - it's our home!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RvEFoxteR Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Good post Woody! I'll take your advice and try to get more of my men to sign up including myself. S! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThomasDWeiss Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 I could help - if you or someone sends me a banner ( a vertical and an horizontal one ) and would answer any posts about it in Lockonfiles forum, I am sure it would generate some interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S77th-GOYA Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 LomacLeague FAQ LomacLeague Forums 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThomasDWeiss Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Added , thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S77th-Dante Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 my best memories of lock on will be the matches that jabog32 & S77th had. with some wins and losses on both sides. special thanks to jabog32 Eagle 'golden eagle' S77th-RYKE & S77th-GOYA for their tireless efforts helping admin the lomacleague. 2 Savage 77th Squadron 'S77th' http://www.s77th.com The Lomac League, For Squadrons & Single Players http://www.LomacLeague.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanillaChris Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Yeah as Woody said - Let the good ol' times come back.:horseback It was always fun to have matches against squads from all over the world. S! Eagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
169th_Bat Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Sounds interesting. Can`t beat a bit of competition between squads. Infact took part in one, 169th v EPA. Best flying experience I`ve ever had whilst flying Lock-On. "Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few". - Sir Winston Churchill 1940. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotasso Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 I think the fact that there is so few people on LOMACleague is not because the community that is fading but rather due to other reasons. Personaly I never participated in it for a couple of reasons: 1)Im a merc pilot and it apears to be mainly for squad matches 2)I have no fixed timetable for my RL right now and cant book any match in advance with certain Ill attend, or if my preferred wingmates or oponents will either. if they miss Ill basicaly be screwed over or the match simply doesnt happen. Its a bit complicated for large meets also since theres always someone or someppeople who dont show up. If it was a bit of a more spontaneous kind of event and score tracking system like we have on 504, it woudnt never have faded off. How to achieve this? I have no Idea, and I reckon it wouldnt be easy to come up with a solution. A bit of imagination is required. Edit: What iff you guys establish an algo that detects wich are the participants at the lobby at the sart of the match and tracks their scores per match, makes tables of total team scores and/or individual scores over time. This way we could avoid booking matches but arranjing them on the fly as people apear on HL. That would make it hassle free. [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic4448_29.gif[/sigpic] My PC specs below:Case: Corsair 400C PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T) RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4 GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S77th-GOYA Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 1 - There is a ladder for lone wolf pilots 2 - Matches don't have to be planned, if you see someone in HL you want to challenge, you may do so. The difference is that someone doesn't have to accept a spontaneous challenge. If one is formally challenged ahead of time, he must accept, but he gives the options for the time of the match. It wouldn't make sense to track results. There are too many times when rounds must be replayed, as agreed by both players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Posted January 29, 2006 Author Share Posted January 29, 2006 The first few new sign-ups already arrived, keep it coming! Any veterans, maybe? Go http://www.lomacleague.com ! "For aviators like us, the sky is not the limit - it's our home!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
504MrWolf Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 has the bomber ladder been worked out yet ? www.VVS504.co.uk www.lockonskins.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S77th-GOYA Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 Negative. The two squads that really seemed interested, other than the S77th, were supposed to have a test match, and haven't done so. The success of the ladder seems unlikely without the activity and participation of its teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TucksonSonny Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 689 pilots 2537 A2A kills 3743 A2G kills. VVS504 Lomac Server looks like a trendy ladder since Zorlac made that real-time stats system. I think that lomac still is a rising community. DELL Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 940 2,93 GHz @3 GHz, 8 MB cache | 8.192 MB 1.067 MHz Tri Channel DDR3 | 512 MB ATI® Radeon™ 4850 | 500 GB 7200 rpm Serial ATA | Samsung SM 2693 HM 25.5 " | HOTAS Cougar Thrustmaster | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 Sorry, folks, just gotta *BUMP* this one...:p BTW, two more sign-ups in 1vs.1 ladder in the last two days... ...what U waitin´ for? "For aviators like us, the sky is not the limit - it's our home!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotasso Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 689 pilots 2537 A2A kills 3743 A2G kills. VVS504 Lomac Server looks like a trendy ladder since Zorlac made that real-time stats system. I think that lomac still is a rising community. Yeah. But funny enough it started to change peoples habits of playing online. At least on that server. Ego is a terrible thing! [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic4448_29.gif[/sigpic] My PC specs below:Case: Corsair 400C PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T) RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4 GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TucksonSonny Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Yeah. But funny enough it started to change peoples habits of playing online. At least on that server. Ego is a terrible thing! You mean like crashing yourself into the ground and saving the k/d ratio or you mean the pilots on top of the list being afraid to play again and waste their perfect k/d ratio :icon_supe . DELL Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 940 2,93 GHz @3 GHz, 8 MB cache | 8.192 MB 1.067 MHz Tri Channel DDR3 | 512 MB ATI® Radeon™ 4850 | 500 GB 7200 rpm Serial ATA | Samsung SM 2693 HM 25.5 " | HOTAS Cougar Thrustmaster | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weta43 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Or are people just being a bit more careful? Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Posted February 6, 2006 Author Share Posted February 6, 2006 Since I opened this post the number of players in the 1 vs. 1 ladder already more than doubled. Keep it coming, there´s fun to be had! Unfortunately the Team Fightersweep ladder had to be cleaned out due to inactivity of some teams. So, all you famous squads, VVS504, =RAF=, 44th, ADI, RvE, 4c, C6, 33rd, 159th, 169th and others, regroup and rejoin the ladder for setting up your squadwars! The S77th sat on the throne for long enough, someone kick them off now...;) "For aviators like us, the sky is not the limit - it's our home!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S77th-Python Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 LOL:) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S77th-RYKE Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 The S77th sat on the throne for long enough, someone kick them off now...;) too much tabasco sauce in that last chili batch ...:wc-smoker what ? ohh that's not what he meant ... :icon_redf soooorry :redface: talking about matches TAW and S77th just had a match last saturday , man that was fun , nothing like a real match to make the old adrenaline pump work again :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: a big Salute to TAW :icon_pidu :beer: One thing that is really fun in a lomac league match is that you will NEVER see anyone ditch their plane to avoid a bad stat record , people fight to the end with honor . 1 [sIGPIC]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/madmaxx69/LOMAC/Rykesig1.jpg[/sIGPIC] Savage 77th , http://s77th.com |Core i7 920|Asus P6T Deluxe V2|GTX 285|9600GT-OC|6G DDR3|Softh on 3x22"CRTs|Tir2|yeahIsaidTir2|X-45|Haf 932|Vista Ultimate 64| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThomasDWeiss Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I just checked to see - about 25 hits a day on the banner I added at Lockonfiles, if you guys are interested, you can prepare an article about Lomac league and I'll post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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