Kaiza Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) Looks like it will be a quality product, nice work and best of luck. Edited October 31, 2013 by Kaiza [url=http://www.aef-hq.com.au/aef4/forumdisplay.php?262-Digital-Combat-Simulator][SIGPIC]http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/2500/a10161sqnsignitureedite.png[/SIGPIC][/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintifaxl Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 If only it would sport FFB, or have I missed something? Windows 10 64bit, Intel i9-9900@5Ghz, 32 Gig RAM, MSI RTX 3080 TI, 2 TB SSD, 43" 2160p@1440p monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactic Pancakes Posted October 31, 2013 Author Share Posted October 31, 2013 Make a spitfire loop yoke or Me109 kg13 stick head, and I'm all in What kind of axes sensors are you going to use at how many bits? We are using Hall sensors with a 12-bit output. A Spitfire grip is a possibility, but to replicate the stick properly would require quite a large redesign. A KG13 grip would be a much easier proposition. Maybe we should start a poll to see what people want next? Thanks for the feedback! Replica Flight Controllers http://www.galactic-pancakes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactic Pancakes Posted October 31, 2013 Author Share Posted October 31, 2013 oooo.... I like the gimbals with enclosure! Looking at your website $489 for the full stick (-$100 if you pre-order), I am wondering would you sell gimbals+enclosure only and if how much would that be? PS: price is in Canadian dollars? Thanks! Prices are in USD (we should update the site to reflect that). Would you like just the gimbal and enclosure, or the complete unit, minus the stick and grip? We weren't planning on it, but again, it's a possibility. Let me work out a figure and get back to you. Replica Flight Controllers http://www.galactic-pancakes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactic Pancakes Posted October 31, 2013 Author Share Posted October 31, 2013 Thanks for the positive feedback, it means alot. The design intent of the unit is to have something we can build on going forwards. We tried to make something that would allow for easy upgrading by the end user. With the unit as it is today, a handy user could modify the gimbal to use cams, instead of the standard base mounted springs we will ship with. FFB as well as damping are also options that will be coming in the next few months. We decided not to include those in the initial model because of the cost. We understand $500 is alot of money for a joystick, and we are determined to bring a serious, floor mount unit to market for less than that. Having said that, we haven't cut corners. This thing is bullet-proof, and probably way over-designed for what it needs to be. Our hope is this is the last stick you will ever need to buy. That's our goal anyway. Thanks again. Replica Flight Controllers http://www.galactic-pancakes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV8R Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) Im in the process of converting my Cougar TQS into Hall Effect Devices, to go along with the FCC3 mod for the FSS. So Ive been getting familiar with this process. Basically for under $10 one can get rare earth magnets and A1302 Hall sensor and replace that spiky throttle axis pot in the Cougar one and for all. Would be applicable to this project as well as its inexpensive and durable. The cost and design trade off would be in what A/D converter and matrix encoder solution you choose to employ. Whilst I was at Radio Shack buying parts for another one of my projects (USB F16 ICP), I picked up a Parallax 27911-RT 3-Axis Gyroscope Module to go along with their Arduino Uno REV 3 USB interface module I was playing with. Couldnt help but think about a joystick application instead of HE sensor devices. Probably too expensive, but elegant. Edited October 31, 2013 by AV8R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactic Pancakes Posted October 31, 2013 Author Share Posted October 31, 2013 That gyro looks interesting. I wonder if there's any perceptible lag, and / or drift? Replica Flight Controllers http://www.galactic-pancakes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One1way Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Cant preorder from Sweden :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactic Pancakes Posted October 31, 2013 Author Share Posted October 31, 2013 Cant preorder from Sweden :( That's crazy! Let me fix that ;) Give me 5 minutes... Replica Flight Controllers http://www.galactic-pancakes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactic Pancakes Posted October 31, 2013 Author Share Posted October 31, 2013 Ok, fixed! One thing to keep in mind, the complete unit weighs just under 10kgs...so shipping from Canada to Europe is expensive. We are looking into an option to stage some product out of a UK based warehouse, so orders to Europe will cost the same as North American shipping rates. (around $50) We are doing everything we can to find the cheapest shipping method. Any savings we've managed to find by the time units are ready to ship WILL be passed along to the customer. Replica Flight Controllers http://www.galactic-pancakes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuky Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Thanks! Prices are in USD (we should update the site to reflect that). Would you like just the gimbal and enclosure, or the complete unit, minus the stick and grip? We weren't planning on it, but again, it's a possibility. Let me work out a figure and get back to you. Gimbals&HallSensors+enclosure I would like to be able to use electronics from HOTAS Cougar and its stick (so would wire the hall sensors to the Cougar pins), so I would need just means of attaching aluminium shaft onto the gimbals. I live in Australia so shipping would hurt quite a bit also I guess :( No longer active in DCS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeroperoDokkiri Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 @Kuky- I am in a very similar situation. I'd like to use my G940 electronics. Guys said, that they cannot promise anything, but they might concider selling just stick and grip (ideally with usb ready wiring) on previous pages. [sIGPIC]http://i55.tinypic.com/21oydlx.jpg[/sIGPIC] ヒューイ最高！o(≧∇≦o) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactic Pancakes Posted November 1, 2013 Author Share Posted November 1, 2013 Samek, if Kuky just wants the base unit, that means we would have a loose stick and grip. If that is the case I can put that aside for you if you'd like. 1 Replica Flight Controllers http://www.galactic-pancakes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agrasyuk Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 GP, can you breakout the cost for gimbal, enclosure, sensor package ? I am designing floor stick and your solution looks like possible shortcut. Anton. My pit build thread . Simple and cheap UFC project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One1way Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Preorder done :) Any news on the MkIII pedals ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactic Pancakes Posted November 1, 2013 Author Share Posted November 1, 2013 Preorder done :) Any news on the MkIII pedals ? Sweet. Will be in touch with details shortly. Pedals are basically ready to go. The only question mark is do we make cast aluminum replica Bell 206 pedals, or a cheaper, easier version from sheet metal and bar stock. Still wrestling with that one. Replica Flight Controllers http://www.galactic-pancakes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeroperoDokkiri Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Give me a price for such set please! (PM, or here) :) [sIGPIC]http://i55.tinypic.com/21oydlx.jpg[/sIGPIC] ヒューイ最高！o(≧∇≦o) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuky Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 GP (Galactic Pancakes is bit too long :D), how are springs going to be attached? (CAD image would suffice) Actually I also wonder how will hall sensors be attached? And, I think I know the answer to this one but would like confirmation just to be safe, the whole gimbals design should be very tight fit and have no movement/play? No wobble at all in any direction? No longer active in DCS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactic Pancakes Posted November 2, 2013 Author Share Posted November 2, 2013 Will post a picture of the spring arrangement tomorrow morning. No, there is absolutely no play or backlash in the gimbal. The sensors mount on the front and side of the gimbal. There are two threaded holes below each axis. Standoffs are inserted there and there and the sensors are mounted on a PCB that is supported by the standoffs. The magnet rides on the end of the x and y axis bolts. Replica Flight Controllers http://www.galactic-pancakes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuky Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Will post a picture of the spring arrangement tomorrow morning. No, there is absolutely no play or backlash in the gimbal. The sensors mount on the front and side of the gimbal. There are two threaded holes below each axis. Standoffs are inserted there and there and the sensors are mounted on a PCB that is supported by the standoffs. The magnet rides on the end of the x and y axis bolts. That sounds sweet :thumbup: No longer active in DCS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyWarrant66 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Just placed a pre-order! Can't wait to fly the Huey with this system when I return from Afghanistan. Now all I need is a collective! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotray Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Will post a picture of the spring arrangement tomorrow morning. Hey GP That looks great! A question about the springs: How much is the force feedbacks on the grip? in other words: how much kg/lbs do you pull in full back position? If you use a stick for an almost real feeling jetfighter simulation you would need forces of about 16.7 kg /37 lbs force feedback on the grip, like the F/A-18. See e.g. F/A-18E Flight Manual A1-F18EA-NFM-000, Section 2.9.9.1, Page 129 blibet suber! ray Swiss Jet Team Movie 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactic Pancakes Posted November 2, 2013 Author Share Posted November 2, 2013 If you use a stick for an almost real feeling jetfighter simulation you would need forces of about 16.7 kg /37 lbs force feedback on the grip, like the F/A-18. Wow. Seriously? Those guys must have really pumped right arms ;) With the springs we have currently selected the stick forces at the grip, at full deflection, are about 0.250kgs. Now, that wasn't measured with the best of scales, so that number could be way off. However, it feels pretty good to me. It takes some effort to move it, and hold it deflected, but not so much it's going to be an issue. If there is an issue once people start playing with them, we can adjust the springs either way. Replica Flight Controllers http://www.galactic-pancakes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agrasyuk Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 GP, can you breakout the cost for gimbal, enclosure, sensor package ? I am designing floor stick and your solution looks like possible shortcut. So, no price? Anton. My pit build thread . Simple and cheap UFC project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactic Pancakes Posted November 2, 2013 Author Share Posted November 2, 2013 So, no price? Hi Anton, Sorry for the delay. PM-ing you now. Replica Flight Controllers http://www.galactic-pancakes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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