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Does anyone know if it's possible - stock or mod - to lock the current waypoint so that it does not automatically increment when you fly over it?

 

For example, there are targets at a waypoint, and you want to make multiple passes, so you lock the current waypoint in order to use the HSI to come around again for another pass.

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I've been using that - at your suggestion I believe - but that's not as effective in thunderstorms, which the mission I was trying was set in.

 

You can manually reset the navigation system as you're egressing a target area, but I was wondering if there was a way to just lock the system.

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I think if you disable navigation for that point by selecting A-G mode, the needle will freeze for that point.

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I think if you disable navigation for that point by selecting A-G mode, the needle will freeze for that point.

 

Switching to A-G mode doesn't help. As soon as you pass over the waypoint the navigation panel will change to the next waypoint or navigation mode.

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This has been really annoying for a long time. I've asked for it several times on the forums, but I got no response. Su-25 really suffers from automatic waypoint switching as you have no other way to fly to a waypoint. You are flying to the target waypoint and at 2 km or 3 km bang, you are pointing to the next waypoint and you even cannot switch back. The real RSBN does not automatically switch waypoints and it shouldn't be that hard to stop that for Su-25.

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Actually, I ran into someone that may have showed me an approach which solves the underlying navigational issue (but not the equipment issue): don't turn in the X-Z plane at all - just do an Immelmann turn in the X-Y plane.

 

This has a couple of advantages:

 

 

  • You can attack from a high altitude, which keeps you out of the reach of low-altitude SAMS except for your actual attack run.
  • You don't need to keep track of where your target bearing is after your attack, just fold backwards on your own flight path.
  • You don't actually lose energy, it just goes from potential to kinetic and back again.

 

In working in the concept of SAM defense - since you are vulnerable to low-level SAMs during the attack dive it'self - you'd want to dive fairly close to the ground/target to run any SAMs tracking you during the dive into the ground, and do a banking climb in the Immelmann to drag any SAMs on the way up.

 

So I guess this becomes a series of high yo-yo maneuvers, over the surface of a paraboloid, with the apex placed on, or above, your target.

 

I've practiced the back and forth "bent figure 8" of the straight Immelman, and it's not that hard; I still haven't tried the "walking yo-yo" approach.

 

If it all works out, then you don't need to use the HSI to keep track of the target point.

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What about putting the waypoint say 5 miles further away from the target area, so you are less likely to overfly it. You will need to be ofay with intercepting the flight line, if you need to go around again. Won't work in missions where you cant dictate the wp's.

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Does anyone know if it's possible - stock or mod - to lock the current waypoint so that it does not automatically increment when you fly over it?

 

You are right, that automatic switching is not wanted at this point. I would prefer manual advance, too.

 

But,

your request is a bit odd. Usually a Su-25 pilot won't have programmed the attack site into his navigation system.

You rather have an IP set up and do the rest per situation/reference.

 

So my answer is a bit of all:

- modelling the nav-system authentic (non-auto)

- place the waypoint off to an IP (including attack heading/specs in the briefing)

 

HTH,

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I always have a habit of loading smoke now so I can self designate.

Yes, I've also used this much. And also looking and remembering the heading to a "safe place" and heading to target from that "safe place" including the distance to the next waypooint after the target waypoint is good situational awareness. This will not keep you from going down do but is good practise I think :)

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