PDM Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 I have noticed that alot of new players are coming into the game, I would like to ask a favor out of the community...... if you can please host training missions, Please take some time to help New players into the game. Please help them with basic flight such as trafficking, flight patterns, ect ect... Teach them how to contact the towers. And teach them weapons deployment. I have been hosting a training mission with dragons basic training mission and a free flight missions... I would like to ask others here to fallow my example. this is the only way DCS is going to grow is people knowing that this is a Very helpful community and creating content with what modules DCS throws at us. More support means more aircrafts, more maps and more content!!!
Shadow KT Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 When I first sat in the cockpit of the A-10C,an year or more ago, there was no one to teach me except the Training Missions.... They teach all the basics you need.... Just sit down and go trough them couple of times and write notes and then try doing it on your own. It is that simple .I can post pictures of my notes if you want to. After the basic stuff start playing with the controls in the plane and learn new stuff and how they work. Go watch ralfi's videos and every time you see something he does and you don't know what it is, google it. There is tutorials for almost everything you just need to prectise it. And if you struggle with something, ask on the forum. The things I am afraid of is that those new people don't visit the forum 'Shadow' Everybody gotta be offended and take it personally now-a-days
Pyroflash Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) The problem with that is a lot of people don't have the time to sit there all day doing nothing while waiting for someone to pop on. Let's say, however, for the sake of argument that for some reason someone respectable and experienced does take the time to do this. The next logical step is where to start. If a student hops on and starts asking questions about how to start the aircraft, 9 times out of 10 the answer is going to be "refer to page xxx in the aircraft manual" because the manual is a clear and concise method of knowledge transfer. In fact, most aircraft related questions can be answered by simply reading the manual. Again though, let's assume that the question was not about how to flick switches, but more about how to fly in general. I understand that a lot of people may not be used to how aircraft fly in DCS, and that the controls and flight models can be overwhelming for those who are new to flight simming. In that case, yes; a real person would be of great benefit because they can actively instruct the other party on how to correct their flying mistakes. They can also answer any outstanding questions about how certain systems can be used to add capabilities to the flight. For argument's sake though, let's take it a step further. The student now wants to know how to shoot people down. Realistically, you are better off simply listing a web address for this one. Teaching people how to throw poop and pickle might work well for JDAM's, but not for anything that requires even the most minute amount of analytical attention. If the student really wants to learn this stuff without hurting themselves in the process, he/she should realistically try to find an appropriate squadron right out of the gate. If they don't get that input from people, they are likely going to fly alone or with a buddy on public servers doing the exact things that this community frowns upon. It might be YEARS until they seek out or get recruited to a decent squadron, and years more to unlearn all of the bad habits that were picked up. Now, what we have now aren't exactly training servers. You will see in the list of servers things like VAB (Virtual Aerobatics), The Virtual Tuskegee Airmen, or the like. You will also see various server hosting test range and weapons range mission types. These are the types of servers that will let people get information from people who are already on there, screwing around having fun, while not making it their sole mission for the next four hours to train someone who MIGHT show up. They already exist, and although not usually as populated as the major combat oriented servers, still usually occupy at least a couple peoples' time. This way, people can still hop in and get questions answered, and at the same time, the people already in the server aren't bored to tears Edited January 3, 2014 by Pyroflash If you aim for the sky, you will never hit the ground.
Shadow KT Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 Don't have the time ? They don't have to take up all of their time ... even I when i was training didn't do it all at once... small steps... 20 minutes today just to start up the plane to see if u remember.....1 hour tomorrow to try landing on a different airfield and like that. I have personally helped 2-3 people who have randomly joined my channel on TS with stuff like : how to datalink or a proper start-up prcedure, or how to imply some weapon. I either set up my own server for them to join or join a public server with mission which tasks are to destroy different kinds treat(there are such mission or just Dragons Weapon Training missions or heck they can even make their own small missions which to play on single player where to test CM/Gun runs/Air refualing/ ect) 'Shadow' Everybody gotta be offended and take it personally now-a-days
Pyroflash Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 That wasn't in response to you. That was in response to the prospect of people setting up a server and waiting for someone random to join. If you come on with the sole intent of teaching a specific person or set of persons how to play, that can be quite enjoyable. Waiting around for four hours with nothing to do is not. If you aim for the sky, you will never hit the ground.
Shadow KT Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 yep... And at the end , I am pretty sure if they really enjoy flying all the new guys will find a way to teach them selves(or to find someone to teach them) how to get the maximum fun out of this great "game" :) 'Shadow' Everybody gotta be offended and take it personally now-a-days
PDM Posted January 3, 2014 Author Posted January 3, 2014 You don't need to just sit there and wait for people sometimes you can set up a multiplayer mission. when someone pops in and ask questions or someone ask for help im saying is help these guys... if you notice someone is having a tough time then offer help... and also let people know where the PDF flight manual is in their game folder too...
Wrecking Crew Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 I was helping a guy last evening -- he *just* started in the A-10C. I asked him a few questions. He was done with the first-person shooters and the community environment in those games. He said the few places he's been to in DCS have all had pleasant, cooperative people, for which he was very happy about. Then he said he has a new Warthog and has studied it enough to know what the switches are called and their basic functionality. That convinced me to take the guy up and show him how to do a few things, like setting the radio freq for the local tower and getting take off clearance. --- OTOH, there are guys who get the sim and then expect on-line folks to answer the noob questions like "How do I start this jet?", and "What's a TMS?" You gotta do some homework, folks. Know how to start, take off, follow some waypoints and attempt to land. :-) I'm glad to see new folks come to the sim, and I'll help if they are willing to invest some time and study on their own. --- To all noobs reading this. DO NOT come into a server and shoot down same-side players or team kill your side's AI -- like vehicles and airbases. THAT will get you BANNED in very short order and you prolly won't be allowed back. Wrecking Crew The Hollo Pointe server Visit the Hollo Pointe DCS World server -- an open server with a variety of COOP & H2H missions including Combined Arms. All released missions are available for free download, modification and public hosting, from my Wrecking Crew Projects site.
Dr. Yes Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 (edited) OTOH, there are guys who get the sim and then expect on-line folks to answer the noob questions like "How do I start this jet?" Left Window Key - Home. Now go RTFM. :P There are plenty of good tutorials on YouTube, some manuals made by the Squadrons, and the DCS flight manual is excellent. How I learned to fly the Warthog. And I'm still learning stuff from all that. Edited January 4, 2014 by Dr. Yes
AtaliaA1 Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 To all noobs reading this. DO NOT come into a server and shoot down same-side players or team kill your side's AI -- like vehicles and airbases. THAT will get you BANNED in very short order and you prolly won't be allowed back. Wrecking Crew The Hollo Pointe server Has that happened? I wouldn't think the type of individual who would act or do ignorant things like that would be the type to even show any interest in a Simulator of such technological requirements. The Sim. Community isn't the place for the ADHD type. This was a Boutique Builder iBuypower rig. Until I got the tinker bug again i7 920 @3.6Mhz 12Gig Corsair XMS3 ram 1600 Nvidia 760 SLi w/4Gig DDR5 Ram Intel 310 SSD HDD 160 Gb + Western Digital 4Terabyte HDD Creative SB X-Fi HD Audio Logitech X-530 5.1 Surround Speaker System Dual Acer 32"Monitors. PSU 1200 w Thermaltake Win10 64Bit.
Shadow KT Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 Has that happened? I wouldn't think the type of individual who would act or do ignorant things like that would be the type to even show any interest in a Simulator of such technological requirements. The Sim. Community isn't the place for the ADHD type. Have been a witness of such people..soo there are such 'Shadow' Everybody gotta be offended and take it personally now-a-days
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