Avimimus

Very interesting. I can see preferring carrying a 250kg bomb over a 100kg bomb (if one was limited to two or four bombs). What about the 10x100kg bomb load reportedly used in Afghanistan? Do you know anything about that?

Thanks for the info! It is neat that they are considering the R-60 at all. This gives me hope that some of the other more common systems (e.g. FAB-100, S-24, S-5) will also be included. The possibility of the 9M120 being included is also an interesting surprise. Do you know if the 9M120F or 9M220O are operational? Are either of these warhead options plausible?

The R-60 appears to have been a special variant for protecting government buildings... so I'd assume that there would be pretty significant changes (which might remove the ability to carry other weapons) and it might be classified. So very unlikely. P.S. I do hope for the S-24... being part of an "eight ship" of Crocodiles firing thirty-two 240mm rockets at a mountain fortification prior to closing with cannons and 9M114 would be... well... spectacular.

Wow! That is impressive. I agree that threat call-outs... and also just IDing of various vehicles and targets would be extremely useful.

It would be very interesting... I'm kindof interested in trying a D with 9M17 missiles... but the changes required are likely not worth the effort. A Mi-24V with the 12.7mm gun would be quite interesting... especially if jamming is modelled (They often didn't carry the full ammunition load because it was too prone to jam). The ability to provide off-boresight suppression against MANPADs, infantry, and associated soft vehicles *would* still be useful though! It is also quite iconic.

Some thoughts: - Mi-24 in Afghanistan carried 10xFAB-100 bombs. I've always assumed this was four bombs on each of the inner wing hardpoints and one on the middle/outer hardpoint. However, I've never seen pictures. It would be interesting to have this armament as it was used quite a bit and would give us a helicopter with a bombload equivalent to some medium bombers at the start of WW2! - Mi-24 in Chechnya carried 4xS-24 240mm rockets. Having modded S-24 rocket for use on the Mi-8 I can say that the feeling of firing them is unique. - It would be very nice to have options for both the armament of export/early 'p' with S-5 and GUV pods and a late 'p' with S-8, S-13, and UPK pods. I've often wondered why the Mi-8 was never offered with the S-5 rocket. - Another interesting practice was the tendency to carry additional rockets in the passenger compartment so that the aircraft could land and self-reload (kind of a mobile 'farp'). This is probably doable with scrips but it would be nice to model the extra weight. - Rumour has it that we might get a Kord door-gun field modification, but it would also be nice to have one or two PK guns as an AI-controlled option... these would provide extra eyes for spotting enemies and could potentially suppress infantry. Alternatively, removing the armour from the crew compartment and leaving it empty would be a good option to have. I believe all of these options would be available for all Hind-P variants - but I could be wrong. I have no idea about other weapons - such as the 9M114F ...but it would be interesting to have that as an option for attacking bunkers. If anyone has info or corrections - I'd love to learn.

Interesting! I wanted the PKM positions... just for more of a 'gunship' feel against trucks and infantry... where they do have some suppression value at least. I recall seeing video of a mercenary hind having both gun windows occupied (rather than having someone switch between the two). On the other hand, it would be nice to also have the option to remove passenger compartment armour... as that was often done.

There is something really magical about releasing your single centre-line mounted R.511 or R.530 directly behind a bomber and watching it slowly accelerate towards the target! It isn't like the experience of releasing any other missile. Your missile is short-range, immaneuverable, with a very weak seeker - and you only have the one shot... and somehow it is magic (in a way the R.550 is not) ;)

I appreciate how your list has a number of things that'd make our life harder. Having to manually correct in low-contrast environments (basically going SACLOS) would be exciting!

Not for diagnostic purposes... just to see it, right?

Any citations for this? Are you saying that the Mi-24 would have been used more offensively than the Ka-50? Or are you saying that the helicopter doctrine had shifted to be less offensive between the 1970s and 1990s? I was under the impression that the Mi-24 was intended to stick fairly closely to the army units and provide mobile support, with some ability to mop-up remaining enemy tanks or air-defenses (if they were unlucky enough to encounter them). The big exception might be supporting airborne units behind enemy lines (where they could provided support/escort for the resupply helicopters and units)... but my info is largely hearsay. It'd be really interesting if any documents have been declassified. Yellowgixxer quote of Dr Mikheyev is extremely interesting because it is potentially more than speculation (or NATO assumptions).

Can't disagree with that!

It'd be great if they added an ability to adjust cluster bomb settings... even doing so in the mission editor or with a bindable key... as modelling improves in other areas it is good to ensure that these aircraft keep up.

Thanks! I didn't see mention of the safety covers in the guides - and lifting them made all the difference!

I've followed the guide and I can't get weapons to release. - The trigger appears to work (the gun sight reacts to pulling the trigger). - The weapons show as armed (master arm switch on, hard-point selected, avionics set to 'roc' for rockets or a bomb setting for bombs)... - No error light on the upper-right hand panel (and showing 'r' or 'b')... Any idea what I'm doing wrong? I can't fire rockets or guns (or release bombs).

I'd honestly prioritise getting a better modelling of warhead fragmentation... and after that being able to load only four or eight Vikhrs to save weight... but I admit that guided rockets would make BS3 more attractive to a lot of people.

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Thanks for these posts

According to Spectre11's posts it sounds like we could get quite a bit less... From my reading: Aim-9L, AMRAAM... seem very likely Bk-27 cannon seems likely (Block 5/2007) IRST is less certain but likely (Block 2/2005), same goes for ASRAAM (Block 5/2007) Avionics might support unguided bombs and rockets (but they seem unlikely to be included) Guided bombs seem questionable (SRP 4.2/PSC 3.2/2008 or P3eb/2020) Brimstone seems very unlikely (P3Ea/2014) Meteor seems less likely (P2Eb/2018 ) As for the anti-radiation, anti-ship, cruise missiles... I have no idea... So temper your hopes... or ask for them to do a hypothetical version based on what the plans were back in 1990 before the Cold War ended and funding was cut off... and some less accurate systems to get around the classified nature of post-2010 variants.

Honestly, given that the closest Soviet fighters are FC3 Mig-29S and Su-27/33... it'd be nice to have capabilities close to what was planned for service entry if the Cold War hadn't ended... an end-of-90s version (but with more complete avionics in some areas than the early production Eurofighters actually ended up getting). That is what has my vote.

Maybe they'll program the avionics in such a way that it'll be easy to mod in such weapons (or they'll be included even though they aren't cleared). I'll admit to some EF2000 sentimentality... :D I'm not sure I'll be 100% satisfied if there isn't some 8bit techno playing and a Norway map... ;) Still though, it'll be nice to have the plane again.

Sadly, the lack of unguided munitions (i.e. EF2000 as envisioned entering service at the end of the 1990s) probably means that I won't get it until after I know if these can be modded in. It is strange - but I've never really enjoyed lasing a target as much as I enjoy the use of unguided munitions. I'm an obsolete creature myself apparently. This is sad because it is no fault of the module makers (who will likely make every effort to build a realistic aircraft without such obsolete systems). Thanks for the reply though - it'll help me temper my expectations - and if I really want the CRV-7 I can always boot up an old copy of EF-2000 (although the rockets lack any modelling of dispersion etc.)

Very interesting - thank you. It sounds like we'll be luck to get cannon and laser guided bombs in the air-to-ground department... with things like the brimstone being very unlikely...? I'm also a bit surprised to see that unguided bombs were a late addition (for the export models). In the 1990s it was assumed that the Eurofighter would carry unguided bombs and unguided rockets... but I suppose that delays in production meant that we'd switched over almost entirely to guided weapons by the time it came into service? Were any unguided rockets actually cleared for use on it?

I rather hope we get CRV-7 rockets (would be great for Canadian CF-18\CF-188 too)

I'd be fine with some simplification if it meant more air to ground systems being included (i.e. lower detail allowing leaving out the classified bits)