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CPU-Z tell you which speed your controller is going to run your RAM on the SPD page, if XMP 2.0 is selected on your BIOS options, the RAM will run at twice its speed.

You need to look at the SPD page for the number of ranks, number of channels does concern mostly the motherboard. After you ran the test and validate it in their website, you'll have every single parameter for your PC, including the top frequencies.

Everything slowing the game from your side is possible, including broadband, but let focuse on your system basics. Your motherboard supports a range of RAM going from 2133 MHz to 3866 MHz when O.Ced, but if you look carefully, the only frequency not O.Ced is 2133 MHz. To be honnest I don't know the full effect of using a RAM kit running at 3200 MHz from stock but if you take the way RAM works, the O.C options are meant to allow for options to run at twice the speed of your controller FLCK with a Ryzen, so you should have a look at your BIOS to see what your motherboard XMP settings are, make sure it is 1600 @ 1.35V. The CPU tolerates a 3200MHz frequency, mostly because the controller will run at 1600 @ 1.35V XMP 2.0, but at this stock RAM frequency, you loose the advantage of lower latency which is one of the strong points of your CPU and also rank interleaving; if your RAM is dual ranked, the CPU will struggle under load and throttle back its buses. This alone can explain the poor results you get from doubling your RAM capacity with dual rank sticks and run a higher frequency than 2133 MHz. I couldn't find any CL12 RAM kits but you still can find CL14 those days, they are just a little more difficult to find, CL16 for a 3200MHz kit is average and offers no real advantage, the Crucial kit I had previous to my G.SKILL was a dual rank CL16 2 X 16GB 3200MHz, similar to your kit, the CPU ran 6.04% slower with it and it overclocked poorly. I am not going to advise you to change RAM because you're planning to run a 5900X but for it, I would strongly advise to look at a CL 14, single rank, 4 X 8 GB 3200 MHz kit.

It's one hell of a cool feature, we're going to see more and more of those in the future which is good for us...

I wish it had worked but it was to be expected. DCS is not the only reason why RAM can be an issue, people doesn't realize how important bounding RAM to CPU is, Intel like AMD, you can double the amount of RAM, if your CPU has to throttle back your buses because the controller can't cope, the extra RAM is wasted even if used. All this does is fill RAM space with data that isn't transfered fast enough through buses, and that's why RAM use looks so important, if it was used more efficiently, data wouldn't bottleneck and you'd see a lower amount of RAM necessary for the same amount of data transfer or/and a much smoother gaming experience with higher FPS, optimized RAM can give you up to 10% more FPS. Also, if you want people to be able to help you, you should provide us with a lot more precise specs on your P.C, in particular the RAM, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz is too vague to figure it out, you'll need to figure the chips (to make sure they are fully compatible), the number of ranks, the Latency, your motherboard settings and I'm curious to know why you use 3200MHz with this CPU while a 4 X 8GB CL12 2133 kit might give you a better result... Apparently, since this game uses only 1 Core effectively, the percentage of RAM efficiency is equally biased toward frequency and Latency, so there is little advantage in using higher frequencies at higher latency. Look at your CPU specs: fab.13 mentioned Good Freq and low cache latency as possible for a good reason, apparently, this is what give you the best result with the Intel, a bit similar to the Ryzen 2, I don't even see 3200MHz listed there, and the reason is the same as what AMD mentioned in their reply to my questionsa: Controllers struggle at higher frequencies with limited bandwidth and high latency. Intel Skylake is even better than AMD Ryzen 2 for lower latencies, that's why users advise CL12 at lower frequencies, I wouldn't be surprised if the best results were obtained with single rank sticks too... What I described for the Ryzen might well have its equivalent for Intel CPUs and it worth researching before even thinking about adding an extra RAM kit, if one have to spend money on upgrade, might as well make sure they bring a significant gain. To finish, just to make sure there is no misunderstanding: People can assist you in making the best of what you have, there is no way anyone is going to make a low specs system runs like a high specs one, I don't expect my mid-end to get close to a high end PC but instead I optimized it to make sure it works at its best. The map you're trying to run causes even high end systems to struggle, so don't raise your expectations too high.

Then it's up to you to figure which RAM kit is best for Intel processors but there are RAM kits which are more or less suited for Intel CPUs, and as far as I know, they both make use of VRAM buses. Have a look at Intel users forums like I did for my AMD, experienced users will give you good tips on the subject such as this: Obviously your CPU is not reacting to RAM specs the same way as a Ryzen 3 or even 2, but it seems that the frequency is 2133MHz and the latency CL12. I haven't have a look at the way the Intel uses ranks, it might or not do rank interleaving, that's one thing I figured after researching for the AMD, but if I were you, I'd stick to those specs for your processor unless you find better tips from Intel users, still lower latency is always better.

Just for your info. I gained 6.04% CPU speed just by changing my RAM kit, same frequency (3200MHz), from 2 ranks 2 X 16 GB to a 1 rank 4 X 8 GB, that's close to 2GB in capacity if you compute just the percentage without taking the full effect of the more efficient RAM-to-CPU bound, because it didn't affect only the CPU but the GPU as well. https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/252271-amd-5000-series-cpu-performance-in-dcs/?do=findComment&comment=4552794 That's logical when you think of it, CPU uses VRAM buses consistently, even without the Zen3 Smart Access Memory, since Zen 2 shared graphics memory, so if the CPU doesn't throttle this bus down, your GPU can run faster. The key to better performances with Ryzen 5000 series is the bound with RAM.

Again, it's not just a question of adding RAM, especially with the Ryzen 3, it's a good bound between CPU and RAM that will make the difference for you. What works with those CPUs is the reduced latency, that's due to the Zen 3 architecture which is meant to use the buses to the full and the controllers which have limits in frequencies depending on number of ranks and sticks. If you use 4 X 2 ranks 3600MHz for example, your CPU controller will throttle down at full load, it will not be using rank interleaving regardless of the capacity of your RAM, 32 GB and 64BG alike, the two extra stick will be more of a waste of money and that's even before counting on how lucky you can be to have similar chips on the added RAM. You'll be far better off buying an optimized kit, 3200MHz, single rank 4 X 8 GB even if they have a premium attached to them because the gain in latency for which the CPU are conceived will be greater, especially in gaming. Here is what AMD emailed me on the subject of ranks and frequencies. Before purchasing my actual RAM kit, I was looking for solutions and struggled to find a 4 X kit of the type I wanted, so I asked support for the G.Skill manufacturer. Here is their reply.

Since we all have different experiences with this, it's gonna be interesting to be able to compare ytour finding to ours...

The G2 works with Mixed Reality and Microsoft have been releasing really bad updates which people have been complaining about for a while. Try uninstalling the last batch of updates and see if it changes anything, I had a G2 and I'm not unhappy to have got rid of it for this reason, its dependency on Microsoft updates is too much especially because they offer little support and doesn't seem to be taking responsibility or giving much support for their faulty updates. Uninstalling Microsoft Mixed reality and trying the Steam version could help too, other than that I can't really be of much help.

I dont think we should expect VR technology to get cheaper sonn, unless there is a clear increase in volume of sales which is not going to happen this year methink... I explore every possibility including this one, the tech is interresting, the cost unknown yet but already, we have what we're looking for, a better picture. Wait and see.

If it doesn't have the blur assotiated with lenses out of their sweetspot, it might not be as much of a problem as it seems...

Same here. I purchasedf my 1080 as a stop gap but I am more than happy with its performances in VR as well, of course it is not comparible with one of the newer GPUs but works pretty well in most situation. Since you're in the UK consider CEX and a second hand 1080Ti, just make sure it is the 11GB model, CEX will buy back the one you have, best even exchange it for vouchers when you buy the 1080, they guanranty them for 2 years... https://uk.webuy.com/product-detail?id=sgranvi1080tigtx11gb&categoryName=graphics-cards-pci-e&superCatName=computing&title=nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-11gb-gddr5x Mine was basically brand new, installed and ran first thing without any issues and O.C using Afterburner reasonably well.

Adding more RAM is a step forward but you also need to minimize RAM leaks in Windows, disable and/or uninstall all background apps you don't use, in short, keep control of your O.S. Ordering another kit is not always working, the reason is that within the same batch, manufacturers can use different chips and not notify customers, you need to make sure the RAM sticks chips are strictly identical, that's why it is always better to get kits by 2 X 16 GB or 4 X 8GB rather than just adding an extra stick or two. The quality of your RAM is even more important than capacity or speed, you run a Ryzen CPU which works a lot better with lower latencies as it is designed for this purpose, the Zen 3 architecture is meant to reduce latency, so CL14 is better than CL 16/18 for the same frequency. 2 ranks on a X2 kit is OK but if you use 4 X sticks, the best combination for Ryzen is single ranks for ranks interleaving for as long as you don't get bonker with frequencies, because the controller always have more problems at higher frequencies and will throttle down your buses, including CPU-to-VRAM-GPU bus, with loss in performances under load. AMD recommand 3200MHz for this reason, limiting frequency allows the CPU to make full use of its architecture when bounded with a RAM kit with lower frequencies and single rank. B.die works very well with Ryzen 2 and 3 too, those sticks are manufactured specifically for Ryzen CPUs, so there are a range of solutions from the one you had in mind to full optimization for a Ryzen CPU RAM, the price of the kits will variate accordingly to the quality of the kits. Personally for a Ryzen, I'd recommand CL14, 4 X 8GB 3200MHz, single rank, B.Die, you can downgrade your list in this order depending on your budget.

The Ryzen3000 Series are selling like cookies for a good reason...

Wrong question. Proper answer.

I didn't vote for a simple reason. Upgrading depends on minimum requiered specs of the games I play, if my PC can keep up at the resolution I want to play those games then it's fine. With War Gaming I upgraded twice and ended up with an Athlon 3000 Black Serie, 16GB of RAM etc, it's been a complete nightmare, since their minimum specs changed several times due mainly to graphics loads. In the case of DCS I already upgraded my PCU twice since I started playing in May 2020: First with a Ryzen 3600X, and the 5600X that I use today, if the specs for VR stays as they are, I might keep this GPU for a couple of years... The gain between the 3600X and the 5600X is <> 21%.

Getting rid of RAM-to-CPU bottleneck works too, the processors controllers will not throttle back the buses including CPU-to-GPU and everything will run faster, including the GPU, I experienced this myself, so it is worth upgrading the RAM and optimize it for whatever CPU you're using. I noticed that in this video there is no mention of the Ryzen 5600/5600X and I find it weird, since it is the root gaming CPU from AMD, better pay less for the CPU with near equivalent performances in gaming even at 4 K and get a better RAM kit for it. What I can say about running 4K 2 X MSAA tests from upgrading from a 3600X to a 5600X: CPU upgrade, <> 21% gain, RAM uprade: 6.04%. For Intel users: The latest NVIDIA Game-ready driver for RTX 30 series is available now. https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/drivers/

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Right... So you're a vet. I've seen Germans F-4 flying low level in Germany when I worked there around NATO airbases, quiet a piece of an aircraft, their last F-104 too, I've been playing flight sims since Jane's IAF, I admit that my favourite aircraft for fighting Migs was the F-8 in Strike Fighter II. I would create a mission with attack of an airfield with SEAD, B52, F-105 and basically fly with unlimited fuel and gun amo against tons of Mig-17 and 21, I learned to do high yoyo, I love the F-8, I did find the F-4 more chalenging to fly against the Migs... Anyway, I'll probably will have to wait an extra month to return to DCS because I really can't hack it with hat switches anymore since I tasted VR, so I'll get a second hand G1 and wait until there is something that really is worth spending money on it, GPU or VR headwset, whatever is available first.

JVC’s Enterprise XR Headset to Launch Next Month in Japan David Morelo February 17, 2021 Impressive specs, but also claim for absence of visual aberration due to the use of lenses, HP and other manufaturers have a lot of work to do... Your thaught?

LOL! I agree, electricity and water doesn't make a good mix, some people love their water cooling, I would personally never consider it even if it game me an extra 10% FPS, plus when you see the performances of good air-coolers, there is less and less reasons for using water-cooling. Ps your avatar is Colonel Robin Olds, right?

Same here, I installed an Artic Freezer 7X of the same configuration, it is feed by a high pressure Octua straight in front of it and right behind it on the same line there is another Octua for the exhaust, my cooling is quiet good even at full load but I recon, this one is even better than the Artic for the same price range...

Something I forgot to mention, but I have given it a lot of attention when upgrading my case, is the cooling, since all processors are thermally limited (CPU and GPU), it is important to maintain a cool temperature at full load. And apparently you don't need water cooling and a lot of dosh to do just that.

The issue with look down/shoot down capability was not only the radar itself but also the MATRA Super 530 F, the Thomson-CSF Cyrano IV lacked the performances to follow targets with continued illumination of target at low altitude but also the Super 530 F wasn't designed for this. AdlA considered the AIM-7 Sparow to be superior for interception in this aspect but less reliable, the reason was the seeker's lack of doppler capabilities, it came with the D variant and the Mirage 2000, but the first 2000 were equiped with the rafar RDM and Super 530F. From 1987, they considered the Sparrow M variant and the Super 530 D as having equivalent performances, the improvement from the F to the D included an EMD semi-active doppler seeker with a 50km range. http://marc.mistral.free.fr/aventure/militaire/missiles tactiques/mt 59 79/mt ch 08.htm http://marc.mistral.free.fr/aventure/militaire/missiles tactiques/mt 59 79/mt ch 09.htm