metalnwood

Yes, there is no benefit to a twist stick unless you have a space requirement. They cost more but may save you money in the long run when you end up getting pedals and upgrade your stick from a twist grip :)

What are you using for a vacuum pump? I just went to measure the DB on mine but I can't find a blimmin 9v battery to put in my meter :)

Twist stick doesn't have a lot of fine control. Yaw can get mixed in accidentally with pitch and roll adjustments. Anything that requires a lot of stick and rudder control will be harder to deal with when using a twist stick. Some aircraft it's not so important, e.g. the a10 doesn't normally need rudder except takeoff and landing. Rudder can be good for quick corrections for guns on some aircraft. Not so easy to do this with a twist stick, much easier with pedals. I could probably keep going but in essence, pedals give you the control required to properly use the rudder where a twist grip is only really useful when rudder control is absolutely necessary, e.g. nose wheel control or yaw in helos cause you need to turn those helps around. In battlefield for example I could live with a twist grip in help's but for flight sims it is so much more natural and easy with pedals.

The warthog was pretty much ruled out because of the lack of twist rudder. Now, if you are going to get a set of rudder pedals I am not sure why you would not want to seriously consider it. I have tried quite a few sticks, not the x-55 or the x-65, I have tried the x-52, CH sticks and throttles, logitech g940 and the warthog. Honestly, I can't see anyone with no budget issues trying all of these side by side and not thinking the warthog stands out. With any stick, who knows if you receive one that runs for ten years or dies after only a couple if we are to be honest about it. EDIT. Just saw your edit, we were typing at the same time :)

Hi Visceral, usually sticks with a rudder are not the beefy ones, e.g. heavy base or dare I say built to last an extremely long time. The ones with hall sensors certainly have less to go wrong with them. The detent is the fixed center postion, sometimes it can give you the opposite of having play and in older X series sticks, possibly current ones it can lead to sticktion where you need to push too hard to get it to move from center loosing some amount of fine control around the center point. Even the warthog suffers from this but an extension to the shaft alleviates it. As outlaw mentions, you should mount, i.e. bolt down everything to make sure it wont move about. This will help out on the x52 a lot.

I think that twist rudder is not compatible with a number of of things on the list so I would just go with what you are happy with in the price range you are going for. You didn't mention what that was but I assume it is below the warthog having mentioned the x-55?

There are things I can spend all day in, i.e. live for speed. It doesn't matter how long I play it I don't have any issues at all. The main thing being it has a good implementation and never, not once will it dip below 75fps. DCS is not one of these games yet. It is not silky smooth like DCS so there is only so much of it you can handle. Like some others at the moment it is good to get the idea but I wouldn't stay in it too long. The amount of time you feel queasy can be much longer than the time you spent in the game. Jump in to DCS, have a quick fix with it but I wouldn't stay in long until ED update to the latest SDK and then lets see where it is at.

Ahh, there might be a flaw in my plan then… if you have msi afterburner or something you could get it to display on your logitech KB if you have one with a display or just get it to log the frames and check them afterwards.

for framerate bring up the framerate counter as you would do on a monitor , lctrl + pause from memory but probably wrong. take a screenshot and look at it after.

Are you referring to general landscape judder because what I cannot get rid of is the incessant jumping around of the cockpit while everything outside the cockpit looks pretty smooth. I am sure the cockpit and frame jumping around is not a framerate thing but curious to know if you are talking about this or something else? thx.

I am not sure what I specifically said to get the LOL? ;) What I said and it is perfectly fair is that oculus is giving this space the marketing it needs. Before Oculus how many people were really talking about it, how much hype was being generated in the media about VR? Not a bloody lot. If they do something to move the area forward and bring it closer to consumers then that is great. If that gives other companies that make HMDs more exposure then great. I am not saying they are the first, or the best, or that other companies haven't got better products. What can be said is that these guys are bringing this to the mass market faster and none of the other companies have made a business case to do it affordably. I know why thats the case, because they make commercial units for high end applications. Consumers wouldn't buy them. Good for them, they have their niche. What we want is something in the price range we can buy that does enough to satisfy our sim needs. To me it's pretty simple and it's got nothing to do with my thing is bigger than your thing. EDIT. if you think I was implying that these guys are new to the market because I said 'I am all for other companies coming out with competing products.', I used this phrase because you references a specific HMD that has not been released yet.

no it doesn't have twist stick, but twist sticks are crap anyway, you may as well map buttons to the rudder for all the finese a twist stick has compared to real rudder pedals :)

The hog is a nice stick, I have it and would buy again. It is more expensive as you know. The others are as functional, i.e. at the end of they day they are all just bottons on a throttle and stick and everything can be mapped. Where the hog comes in to its own and the others cannot really be compared is when you are using the A10C. Using the hog with the a10c is in a league of its own but it comes at a premium.

I got to the oculus config util and pause the service. I set to extended mode. In dcs I select ' auto detect oculus rift' and set the display config to 'stereo'. Thats it, the menus work on primary display but when I load up the game it goes on to the rift.

I am all for other companies coming out with competing products. While oculus isn't the first they have no doubt been the ones to give VR a shot in the arm and other companies, as long as they have good products will no doubt benefit from what oculus is doing. The exposure they are getting is enormous. Oculus may play at many levels with top of the line stuff or they may only stay at relatively mid level consumer. I am not fussed as long as what I see with my rift keeps going forward and getting better!

I bought voice attack a little while ago, it's only $8. I have VAC and pretty much only bought voice attack because lots of sim racers use it and I thought I may as well pay $8 just to get to use existing profiles. It looks ok but I have not spent much time with it. Only thing that worried me about VAC is that it's $18 for two activations. I clarified with the author that if you use them both up, i.e. upgrade computers or enough components to change the hardware sig that you are up for another $18. I upgrade a lot but don't run it on multiple computers so that kind of licence is not the best for me.

True but I wouldn't worry about it, sometimes you will get hit :) It's been similar over the years with people with and without TIR. I knew a guy I played with online all the time with a bunch of us and I only realised years later that he played a lot out of the cockpit. I thought he was fantastic with the SA he had without a TIR and was much more deflated to find that he was constantly viewing outside the cockpit. It never occurred to me to every fly out of the cockpit. The thing is I didn't really care about it too much because it would not be as fun for me if I flew as he was flying. That kind of flying isn't interesting to me so I was happy to get killed when I got killed and get the kills when I got them, as long as I was doing it how I wanted to. I agree that a rift only server would be quite nice to even the playing field but as long as I am having fun either way....

Krupi, so the most part the view outside of the cockpit is OK. After a while, like you I get a bit of a sick feeling start to creep in. I think it is the frames being too low. In something like live for speed you can stay there for hours as it is silky smooth. While dcs is OK, it's still not that silky smooth required to keep the nausea from slowly creeping up in VR. One thing, I have judder from the cockpit, at times it can be constantly hopping around, not a judder you might get from panning, just the cockpit frame doing a small dance by itself. Very annoying.

A homemade cnc should have good tolerances for doing engraving. It is possible that you have coded the wrong size cutter. E.g. said you have a .2mm tip when you actually have a .5mm, or whatever. This would cause the letters to be larger than anticipated, not hugely so in this example but really depends on the size of the cutter and how far out you are. Examples would be useful, I could probably guess by seeing what is happening.

Nice to know, I see someone on the oculus forum had problems so I wasn't going to upgrade at this time. When you say runs pretty good, any improvement or just no step backwards? Thanks!

With the rift I am going the complete opposite, I have gone from an a10 pit to a basic aces seat with controls. For the rift, why would I want something that takes up that much space?

Read the post I made a page ago, or on this page, it has a link to reddit where there is some software to manage the oculus software. No need to load task manager and fiddle around with it.

I am guessing viability of a market. If someone wanted to sell me something made from cardboard and they were not sure of the viability of the product I would not be buying :)

For starting and stopping the service this one works well. I use it all the time. Just click the stop, run ED and afterwards restart it. Saves going in to task manager and mucking about.

Happens to me often as well. Default recenter key is the '5' on the number pad. I can't remember what it is in the options, 'view centre' or similar. You should see it in the options easily enough, bound to numeric 5. I added it to the joystick.