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Not only that but yo-yo is often on channel talking about his progress or just having a chat, he is very much involved in this project.

is it impossible to try and get the message through by private channels? because the more and more forums fill up with threads like this it becomes counter productive to a titles potential success.

Yes, it's a fair point, Luthier could just give us a word, we all know it, nothing to gain by making endless threads about it.

Is there a secret rule in flight simming that says 'chose one and dedicate your soul to it'?

What exactly are people trying to achieve? do we just want Luthier to hand back all the money, cancel the project and leave all WWII flight sim development to 1CGS?

Did I hear Gabe let slip and confirmed it is coming or was that just another rumour? Let slip recently that is.

OK, milk is spilled, nothing to cry over.

Of course enquiring about cancelling the backing was simply not obvious to do at the actual site relevant to it, nothing to do with making negative statements to give a bad impression.

Look at the diagram again, they match, who says the guy in picture 3 is not sitting on a cushion similarly sized to a parachute.

Not sure what the last set of pictures is meant to signify but picture 3 illustrates very well the pilots eye line which seems to agree with the factory diagram very much, the eye line is just above the coaming and in picture 3 a rough perspective shows the structure around the armour glass sitting well above that line, this topic will never be resolved until someone who one day has the ability to climb into a cockpit of a 190 and keeps in mind this very issue takes a proper set of pictures from this perspective.

She doesn't exist because we have no picture.

Pictures or neither exist.....

Exactly right, and the evidence is sourced from the same article that some would use to the contrary for some strange reason.

Existing members should be too busy fulfilling their main tasks, though Anya sounds intriguing. yes the last analogy is completely right, chaos then silence is hard to come to terms with.

I wonder what we might have to sacrifice in the game to afford a paid community manager.

it is the elephant in the room.

Ah the last bastion of democracy, everyone gets to speak freely......as long as they have nothing critical to say.

We all just learned the value of regular updates over at BoS forums, lots of talk but no information.

Quite, this should end and no further action need be taken, the obstruction from the bar is probably about right and it's the profile of the coaming that needs changing.

in this case refraction would have an even more adverse effect because it would obscure further the lower portion of visibility beyond the windscreen, I'd be careful about demanding it's implementation.

No, you are absolutely right, it simply doesn't apply in this case.

Don't undersell it Ivan, that's exactly how I see it too, my argument is that the physical top of the obstruction in the game 3d model is probably correctly placed but the modelling of the coaming is inaccurate given that it seems to angle down to the lower portion of the armour glass.

Maybe not, but either way in order to ensure unobstructed view through the sight the pilots eye line had to be pretty much in line with the top of the coaming, this basically does not illustrate potential for very good forward visibility while using the sight, the people arguing for the exclusion of the 'bar' may be asking for an unrealistic increase in that forward visibility given that that bar is actually a very real physical part of the structure of the aircraft, when looking at the DCS 190 video it is pretty clear that if the pilots line of sight was placed in line with the coaming then even the in game bar would cause less obstruction, so I don't see where any actual change needs to be made. I might add I do believe there is a need to change the top of the coaming in the 3d model as it is clear now the coaming is a straight line to the lip IvanK illustrates and not so much of the base of the armoured glass should be visible.

2 things.. 1. watching the video shows clearly the moment this grab was taken, and it is indeed at a moment when the pilots head dips, therefore it is arguably just about right for actual pilots line of sight. 2. given that the larger dark obstruction is indeed the tinted glass I missed before you can still draw the imaginary line across the top of the bead IvanK is illustrating and see that it would still clip the base of the sight aperture.

So by that logic you think the pilots actual eyes are below the coaming?