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I purchased the UFCP recently. I like the overall quality but the software needs an update. Because currently, it is not working properly. The device needs its software to synchronise its display with the corresponding display in the game. This software also dictates all of its button functions. So basically, once the software is activated, you don't need to map your buttons, the device will automatically function as intended when you play JF-17......in theory. The software may have been designed to search the corresponding values in the game, and that is how their buttons work without mapping them. But the issue is that the values for controls have been changed quite a few times. I am sure some of you still remember there were times we had to remap some of our keys and buttons after an update. And that's what's causing the problem. When I first received the UFCP, I didn't know this and had mapped all of its buttons. And that caused conflict between the software and my key mapping. Every time when I press a button, it will get double-tabbed. For example, when I tried to enter the coordinates 44'12"22, I will get 44'44"11 instead. After trying to correct it a few times, the conflict between the software and the key mapping will be so great that it will get what I called a "software crash" and when that happens, some buttons will lose their function. But the issue is, no matter how you restart the game or the computer, those buttons which lose their function will NOT work again. Why? Because the crashed software is still in its crashed state. Please see the picture below. Note the display is still on even after I turned off the computer. Because of this, the software inside the device is still on. So the only thing you can do to reset the software is to completely shut off the power of the computer. Turn off the power source. Only then, the UFCP will not be able to receive any power and be shut down. And after a restart, everything will be reset. Some of you may want to ask, why not just clear all key mapping and just rely on the software? As I mentioned above, the controls of JF-17 have been changed a few times and some of them no longer have their original value therefore, many of the buttons won't work. Secondly, there are some buttons on the UFCP never had any functions in real life and we as players would like to map them for our convenience. For example, the button on the right side of the number "0"; the buttons below function buttons "A/P" and "FPM". I have contacted the company "Wefly" and their representatives promised that they are going to update the software. The new software will only be used to synchronise the display and leave all buttons alone, returning the key mapping decisions to us players. But it may be a while. So currently, I can only play it without the software thus, without a synchronised display.
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Deka Simulations announces the DCS: J-8II for DCS World!
PLAAF replied to Mike_Romeo's topic in DCS: J-8II
Read this and you will understand why some people found that "scary". -
Wow. Thanks, Wyvern. Any chance you can fix the control for MiG-21? There are so many commands in MiG-21 that cannot be mapped to a device.
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HUD contrast control is missing. Please see the picture attached. You can only decrease the contrast but can't increase it.
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What an AWESOME campaign this is~!!! Can you make more please?
PLAAF replied to PLAAF's topic in The Museum Relic Campaign
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What an AWESOME campaign this is~!!! Can you make more please?
PLAAF replied to PLAAF's topic in The Museum Relic Campaign
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Deka Simulations announces the DCS: J-8II for DCS World!
PLAAF replied to Mike_Romeo's topic in DCS: J-8II
Nice job. Can you send me a copy too, please? Edit: How did you pay to get those? You need a Chinese bank account to download them. Secondly, I didn't see any reference to KLJ-1 or APG-66. It appears to be some design criteria and standardisations for the fire control system of J-8III, not J-8F. I haven't opened my WeChat wallet system so I can't pay for it. Therefore I can only read the second file. As for the first file, I can only read the first half. If you have already paid and downloaded it, please share -
Wow, you guys really put a lot of work into this module. I just saw the news of the update. Looks very promising. One quick question, are we going to get the "dissymmetry of lift" in this new update?
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Quite a few people have posted many photos showing the finished PP prototype. So what's your problem? J-8PP is a variant of J-8II. J-8II is a series of aircraft. Just like F-16 have A,B,C,D,E,F, SFW, XL, X, VISTA. etc. Unsuitable? Says who? To whom? Unless you have the majority of ED's share, I doubt it is up to you to decide whether a plane is suitable for DCS. Right now, we are looking at you VS. so many people who want to have it in the game. If you don't like prototypes in DCS, then my best suggestion for you is "don't play". If I remember correctly IL-2: 1946 had so many prototypes, but everyone loved them. So once again, you are not the majority. Really? I assume you had a poll and have literally asked everyone in the DCS community about their opinions on F-20. Because I don't remember you asked me. Torbenite, did he ever ask you that question? If you haven't done a poll, how can you even claim the entire DCS community doesn't want F-20? What give you the right to represent the entire DCS community? Have you tried to ask for an F-16XL or F-15SE? I would be happy to make a purchase of those. So stop forcing your definitions onto the DCS community. The world doesn't revolve around your preferences. You are not the director of our lives and we are not actors you hired to act out of your "perfect rule" for a "perfect DCS". We don't like your script and will certainly not follow it. Plus, what did you mean by "This module is definitively inconsistent with the core purpose of DCS."?? What is DCS's "core purpose?? I don't remember ED ever defining it. Or is this just another one of your fantasies?
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I just want to point out how good the art was back then. Every frame was a delicate hand-drawn art piece. It's like one of those wall paintings from Dunhuang Mogao Grottoes。 Not like the cartoon we have nowadays. That super Saiyan Broly movie is just awful. It was a cheap computer drawing in a cartoon for kindergarten kids.
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Would You like to see some old Chinese cartoons before the opening-up policy? Those had no foreign influence at all.
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One thing at a time I agree with you. They do need to be a module. So does Tu-2 and everything in that list
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(Continue with my last comment) Also, take a look at this. Everyone else made a fan in the air intake, but in MiG-19....... we got a whiteboard.
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lol, talking about prejudices.
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Yep, I did get the irony when you said that, and I am not the only one. Who is the mod? When is he in the conversation? Wait, did you just add random things into this conversation to derail the attention from your weak arguments? Since when is this "mod" guy ever in our conversation? Edit: one of my Western friends just told me that the mod is short for "moderator". Sorry, that's the embarrassment on my side.
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I didn't assume anything. You showed us your prejudices and intention with your self-contradictory comments. But still, good to know you don't intend to continue the pointless ranting.
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What's wrong with that? I was trying to simplify things when I said that. I doubt you will be happy if I really go into the detail of the EAST technology. But at the same time, I doubt you did NOT know I was trying to simplify things. So what are you trying to do here? This shows your mindset and motive. You already made up your mind that China must be "inferior". Then there is no necessity to continue this conversation. It's not my business how people portrait China in their fantasies. I often have this fantasy that Tifa Lockhart is my girlfriend, but unfortunately, no one cares. Hahaha. "Questionable"? lol so you imply that China "steal" them from West, right? So can you explain to me why Chinese-made EAST is more than five times better than the ones made in the West? So China steal the knowledge from the west, and made something so much better than the west can make using the very same knowledge? This is getting pathetic. So let me get this straight. What you are trying to say is that Western people are five times stupider than Chinese people because, using the same knowledge, they can only produce something 20% of the Chinese standard. My gush, that's just rude. So what was the point to bring up this point to begin with again? o_O? I don't even want to reply to this. Since this is so laughable. Anyone who is ever bothered to leave the US and see the world would probably tell you how much the world is not like what they have been portrayed by the CNN or whatever. hahahahaha. Not to mention that the link I showed to you was the official announcement. How is that "secretive"? lol
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I have never said such a thing. What make you think that? As you have probably noticed, I only take things from credible sources. And even in my previous reply to you, I have admitted the fact that China is currently behind the US in 7nm chip technology. EAST is just one aspect of China that has been ahead of the West, but not the only aspect. That's Russia. China is not Russia, and Russia is not China. Do you know if F-22 is any good? So far, the only confirmed kill of F-22 ever made is a Chinese weather balloon.....sorry, I meant a "spy balloon", and that was such a fair fight need I remind you. Hi, F-2. I can't see anything in the file you uploaded. Every time when I open it, it shows me nothing but white backgound and a small window pop up telling me to download some "font" so it can display it. And after I press "download" button, nothing happened. Do you have it in other format?
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Why cant they implement new things and standards on the Gazelle, a module that is already made first, then implement them to Kiowa?
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Thanks for the info. I hope they can spend some time to complete this module first before moving on the next.
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I agree with you. This is just a youtube video; however creditable the creator may be, it is not an official announcement. But still, I doubt it would be too long. A few years ago, I had the same hesitation as you. Man, but in the past few years, after witnessing all the breakthroughs my countrymen have achieved, I am no longer surprised by anything they say. Besides, China does have a tendency to achieve whatever the external powers are trying to boycott or block throughout history. Things like nuclear weapons, 4th gen fighters, 5th gen fighters, etc... are all developed after world powers set up a technology blockade on China. I guess that's because of our Confucianistic culture. We tend to treat those external blockages or threats as a source of energy that spurs on us for self-improvement. That's why last year when Biden said that they were going to set up a tech blockade of 7nm chip tech on China, all of us had a celebration instead of anger. You should know that Chinese technology wasn't that far behind them to begin with. I remember it was about 20 years ago I had an opportunity to chat with an engineer in an aircraft design bureau. He told me at that time, "Don't be self-abased. We currently can make something like F-22 that the US has. The difference between us and the US is not that they have those techs, and we don't. The only difference is the level of maturity of those technologies. They (the US) can mass produce F-22 at the cost of about $100 million per aircraft. In contrast, we have to handcraft them at the cost of probably more than $1 billion per plane, maybe more. This explains your point perfectly. Think about it. When China was replicating the Soviet engine, I assume that you referred to the engine of the Su-35. At the time, China tried to develop their own thrust-vectoring engine. But this new type of engine has moving parts at its nozzle, which kept getting melted. So China imported Su-35, trying to see what's Russia's solution to this problem. But the issue is, at the time, China was already ahead of everyone else in the Experimental Advanced Superconducting Tokamak (EAST) technology. The material used could withstand the power of the sun for 101 seconds. It was better than anyone else in the world. The second place was Germany, I think. Why didn't we use the material in EAST on the WS-15 engine at the time? If we had done so, the problem would have been easily solved. But you should know that the material used in the EAST costs trillions. By the way, just as we speak, two days ago, on the 21:00, 12th of April, 2023, China further broke the record. Now our EAST can withstand nuclear fusion for 403 seconds, further enlarging the gap between China and the West. Our entire nation rejoiced. Here, have a read. This time, it's an official announcement. http://www.news.cn/tech/2023-04/13/c_1129517477.htm
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Many of you probably know this youtuber called Enigma. He runs this DCS cold war server which is very popular. He said currently, in DCS, the Cold War period aircraft are the ones that are truly playable. I kind of agree with him. Because you have so many iconic planes to choose from, and for both sides too. Especially after the announcement of F-4E, J-8II and MiG-23MLA. More importantly, most, if not all of those weapons are retired. Therefore, we shouldn't have any problem obtaining information of those weapons. So, I am going to create wish-lists for Chinese cold war vehicles because if those vehicles were ever made into DCS, we would have a more realistic battle environment for the eastern part of the world. The Soviet was officially dissolved on the 26th of December 1991. Therefore, any weapons which did not make to the service will NOT be the focus of my wish lists. As I have mentioned before in a La-7 thread, the reason we need to add more vehicles is all about adding new pilot-environments interactions. Each interaction is a type of mission/experience we can enjoy. There are only a few types of mission or pilot-mission interaction. 1: Fighter-to-fighter action 2: Ground attack (We already have vehicles from other nations, so we need some Chinese ones to form the basic Chinese transports convoy in missions.) 3: Anti-air weapons (Use them to protect transports and other installations. They allow players who fly in opposition force to have more believable and challenging mission settings and create a safe zone for the friendlies to fall back to.) 4: Ground assault vehicles for Close Air Support Missions. (For the opposition ) 5: Some long-range artillery can be used as target for elimination or protection. The best if such artillery can seem clear from the sky when firing. Katyusha type of weapon would be the best. Just imagine you are tasked with protecting the arty. After some tough fighting, you don't even know if you have done the job, and all of a sudden, every rocket from the ground start to fire. That would be a sight to behold. This thread will be focused on the AAAs and SAMs only. I will gradually make wish-list for other vehicle types which contribute to other types of missions. OK, let’s start with the short-range ones. HN-5 series The original HN-5 was a licensed copy of the Soviet 9K32 Strela-2 man-portable SAM system with minor modifications. This variant entered the service in the 1970s. The Chinese military wasn’t completely satisfied with the performance of this missile, because it doesn’t have an all-aspect seeker. They started to develop a new variant right way. HN-5A: Initially, they were planning to send this to north Vietnam to support their war effort against the US. But by the time HN-5A enters the service, the war was just about to end. So it didn’t see any actions in the Vietnam War. The A variant has a new indigenous seeker that allows you to track and attack a jet from any aspect. It is a bit longer body and a new rocket motor for better range. The A variant is said to perform slightly better than the Soviet 9K32 Strela-2M. HN-5 HN-5A Length 1.423m 1.463m Operational Altitude 0.05-2.3km 0.05-2.5km Operational Range 0.5-4.2km 0.8-4.4km Warhead 0.5kg 0.6kg HN-5B A further improved variant over the A variant. Some sources claim that it is partially based on the Strela-3. The B variant entered the service of the PLA in the mid-1980s. \ Pakistan purchased the copyright of this weapon and is producing it domestically as Anza Mk1. HN-5C A further improved variant over the B variant. And it is designed to be vehicle mounted with an electro-optical fire control system. It entered mass production in 1986. HQ-5 The HN-5B missile was made using Western standards and renamed HQ-5. It has been exported to many nations. The list of the nation which purchased HQ-5 include: · Albania · Cambodia · Colombia · Ecuador · Pakistan · Iran · Philippine · Thailand · Turkey · Vietnam DK-9 SAM/AAA Integrated Air Defence System Also known as the 930 System is a tactical air defence system designed to provide tactical field air defence at the army or divisional level. It is the predecessor of the current DK-10 system. As the threats of modern attack aircraft and choppers grow, conventional AAA weapons are no longer capable of providing the AA cover the ground forces need on the battlefield, while SAMs, are too expensive to be deployed in vast quantities to cover every corner. One solution to this problem is to combine the two systems to form an integrated AA system. In a typical engagement, the SAM would be used to engage targets at a longer range, while the AAA is used to engage targets at short range and lower altitude. Additionally, by sharing the same target search radar and fire control system, the users do not have to deploy 2 separate systems, which would reduce the unit cost and simplify the crew training. The PLA began to deploy this system in a combined unit to provide improved AA capabilities in the mid-1980s. A typical DK-9 battalion includes: Battalion Company X 3 Battalion C3I post X1 IBIS searching radar X1 Electro-optical director X1 Company command post X1 Type 702 fire control unit X1 SAM launcher (4 missiles) X1 Twin-35mm or twin- 37mm AAA X2 Company command post X1 Type 702 fire control unit X1 SAM launcher (4 missiles) X1 Twin-35mm or twin- 37mm AAA X2 Company command post X1 Type 702 fire control unit X1 SAM launcher (4 missiles) X1 Twin-35mm or twin- 37mm AAA X2 Radar: Some source claims that the radar used is the Type 702 fire control radar. It is consistent with an X-band search radar, C-band search/tracking radar, a K-band tracking radar with TV/IR tracking system, IFF and various latest electro-optical technologies, thus guaranteeing superior multi-target engagement capability, accurate and longer range tracking capability against ultra-low level and small-RCS target, short system reaction time, good all-weather engagement capability, ECCM capability and LPI characteristic, quick system positioning and deployment capability, and excellent reliability as well. The X-Band search radar has a maximum detection range of 22 km for fighter aircraft and 9 km for cruise missiles. The C-Band search and tracking radar ad a maximum detection range of 32 km for fighter aircraft and 13 km for cruise missile, and tracking range of 32 km for fighter aircraft and 13 km for cruise missile. The Ka-Band tracking radar has a maximum range of 15 km for fighter aircraft and 6 km for cruise missile. Look! A picture of the radar control. This can be used for the Combined Arms module. Missile: The SAMs used in DK-9 is the PL-9D, the SAM version of the PL-9C air-to-air missile. The missile is capable of +/- 40 degrees off-boresight angles and uses an all-aspect cryogenic liquid nitrogen gas-cooled seeker head unit utilising proportional navigation guidance techniques. The missile delivers an 11.8kg HE warhead at a speed of Mach 2 to a maximum range of 5.5km and a max altitude of 5km. The standard configuration of the missile launcher is mounted on a 4-wheel cartridge, but it can also be carried by a wheeled armoured vehicle (6x6 WZ551). The missile is said to have a single-shot hit probability for a single missile launch at an approaching target is 90%. AAA: The system has 2 AAA options: the twin-35mm Type 90 or the twin-37mm JP-113, both of which are automatic systems that can operate in either radar, optical tracker or manual mode. Let’s start with the 35mm Type 90 AAA. It is a licensed copy of the Swiss Oerlikon GDF-2. It can be used as a part of the DK-9 system, or as a stand-alone AAA in conjunction with Type 902 radar. That’s my way of asking “please make the stand-alone version too. Type 902 radar for the AAA The PLA also developed a self-propelled version of the gun (please see the picture below). But they gave it up in favour of the Type 95 SPAAG. The JP-113 is the land version of Type 76 twin-37mm naval AAA. A complete DK-9 system includes up to 8 battalions, with 48 AAA guns and 24 SAM launchers to cover an air space of 3000 square kilometres and engage 45 airborne targets simultaneously. Type 74 Twin-37mm AAA This was one of the most prominent AAA in Chinese service. Back in the 1950s, China imported the Soviet M1939 single barrel 37mm AAA and produced it as Type 55. Since a single-barrel gun doesn’t have a firing rate adequate to fight modern high manoeuvrable jets, so in 1965, China developed a twin-barrelled version called the Type 65. Later, the experience in the Vietnam War showed that the manually operated AAA couldn’t turn fast enough to track fast jets of the Vietnam War era, so Type 74 was created by adding auto-motors to operate them. The crew can now also operate them using a remote control at a safe location (usually nearby since they still need to reload them). An electro-optical director plus a target-searching radar was also added to support the AAA. Type 65 Type 74 Gun elevation -10 to 85 degrees -15 to 87 degrees Rate of fire 320 rounds/min 360 rounds/min Range 8.5km Muzzle Velocity 866m/s Horizontal movement 360 degrees Type 87 Twin-25mm AAA The first AAA was designed by China, which did not use the Soviet cartridge. And after that, China never used Soviet cartridges ever again for AAA…. With the exception of the 14.5mm, but that’s smaller than 20mm, so technically, that’s a gun, not artillery. Therefore, I am not wrong . The Type 87 AAA is mounted on a two-wheel cartridge with 2 magazines, each carrying 40 rounds. It fires the WB041P HE rounds with tracers with a rate of fire of 700 rounds per minute and a muzzle velocity of 1050m/s. The system is also fitted with a Type 86 IR tracking sight for night operation with a range of 7.5km. The gun elevation/depression is -10 to 90 degrees. They can be mounted on trucks. They can be mounted on Type 63 APCs They can be mounted on a Tieying Jeep. (Notice the missiles in the centre) Exported to Indonesia Now, let’s talk about the self-propelled AAAs. Type 63 A Type 65 gun on the hull of T-34-85. PRC supplied many of those to North Vietnam during the Vietnam War. Since we are getting F-4E, and there is a Vietnam map coming to DCS later, this will be a great addition to simulating the Vietnam War. However, this gun is not very effective against fast jets of the Vietnam War era. (see more detail above, in the Type 74 AAA section) Type 80 SPAAG This gun is mostly a copy of the Soviet ZSU-57-2, but with the following changes. Firstly, the hull is based on the Type 69-II MBT, not T-54/55, which provides it with better cross-country capabilities. It also has a Type 12150L engine with 580 horsepower instead T-54’s 520 hp. A new indigenous proximity fused round was also developed for better effectiveness. Compared to older SPAAG like the Type 63, its turning and elevations are operated by electrical motors instead manually. Type 88 The first radar equipped SPAAG designed by China. It uses an improved Type 74 AAA on a Type 79 MBT chassis. It has an effective range of 7.2km and an effective altitude of 4km. The elevation of this weapon is -5 to 85 degrees. The gun has a turning speed of 60 degrees per second. Now let’s move on to the tactical air defence HQ-61 The HongQi 61 (HQ-61) is a short-range, low- to medium-altitude surface-to-air missile (SAM) developed by Shanghai-based 2nd Mechanical-Electronic Bureau (now Shanghai Academy of Spaceflight Technology, SAST). The missile was initially developed as a ship-based air defence missile, with a land-based variant HongQi 61A being developed at a later stage. The HongQi 61A is the first Chinese SAM to be developed especially for ground forces to provide tactical air defence. Because the HongQi 2 SAM was designed to intercept medium- to high-altitude targets, the PLA required a low-/medium-altitude air defence missile in the early 1960s to provide air protection for its ground forces against low-flying aircraft. The missile development was initially carried out by the Beijing-based 2nd Space Academy (now China Academy of Defence Technology) in 1965 under the designation HongQi 41. In 1967 the development was taken over by the Shanghai-based 2nd Mechanical-Electronic Bureau, and the missile was renamed HongQi 61. Initially, the missile was developed with both land-based and shipborne uses in mind, but a decision was then made that the shipborne (naval) variant should be given higher priority. (I will talk about it in the future navy thread) The shipborne variant HongQi 61 was not successful until late 1986 (I will talk more about it in a future Navy thread). The development of the land-based HongQi 61A began in 1976. The associated ground guidance station, electro-optical director, and fire-control vehicle were developed at the same time. The HongQi 61A passed its certification tests in 1986 and the missile’s design certificate was issued in 1988 prior to production commencing. The air defence brigade subordinate to PLA 38th Group Army in the Beijing Military Region fields the HongQi 61A, HongQi 7, and Tor-M1 (SA-15) SAM, and 35mm AAA guns in amalgamation for field air defence roles. The HongQi 61A missile has four front canards mounted on the middle of the missile body and four larger delta-shape control surfaces at rear. The front canards and the rear control surfaces arrangement are not on the same geometric plane but on a 45-degree angle. The missile uses radio command and semi-active radar homing. A twin missile launcher is mounted on a YanAn SX2150 flatbed 6X6 truck with an azimuth range of 360°. The truck is equipped with four hydraulically operated stabilisers which are lowered in preparation for the missile launch。 A typical HongQi 61A battery (company) consists of 4 trucks, each with two ready-to-launch missiles, mobile generators, command post vehicle, a tracking and illuminating radar vehicle, a target indicating radar vehicle, and 24 spare missiles. The C-band radar system called Type 571 had two elliptic parabolic net-type reflectors. Other features include moving target indication and frequency hopping agility. A typical target engagement would take place as follows: The target is first detected by target indication and radar vehicle. After being confirmed as hostile, the target is tracked and illuminated by the tracking and illuminating radar vehicle. When the target is within range, one missile is launched. The Type 571 radar has been designed specifically for low-altitude warning and displays both the slant range and azimuth of aircraft targets detected. No details of the tracking and illuminating radar have been disclosed, although photographic imagery examined shows a dish-type antenna with a TV camera mounted coaxially to the right for use in an ECM environment or passive operations during clear weather engagements. Some source claims that this missile has a single-shot hit probability for a single missile launch is between 64% to 80%. Length 3.99m Diameter 0.286m Wingspan 1.166 Min Range 2.5km Max Range 10km Speed 3 Mach Operational Altitude 8km HQ-64 This is an HQ-61 upgraded with Aspide technology. The HongQi 64 was designed to engage low-/medium-altitude fast jet targets, low-flying helicopters, and sea-skimming anti-ship missiles. The missile is guided by the radio command with artificial interference capability. It claimed to be the only medium-low-altitude air defence missile in the world that used microprocessor intelligent module technology at the time of its introduction. The surveillance radar detects the target aircraft and then hands it over to the appropriate tracking/illumination radar unit for engagement. The system continuously waves semi-active homing guidance principles, and, with the allocated assets, the battery can process up to 40 targets, track 12 and engage three of them simultaneously. The use of the moving target tracking processing system and frequency agility technology also gives the system good anti-jamming capability. System reaction time is 9 seconds. A typical land-based HongQi 64 battery fire unit comprises one 4X4 truck-mounted surveillance radar, three 4X4 truck-mounted tracking/illumination radars, one emergency power supply vehicle, and six 6X6 truck-mounted transporter-launcher platforms. Each of the launch platforms has five ready-to-launch missiles in individual sealed containers. The fire unit is complemented by a technical support unit which comprises a transport and reloading vehicle, a test vehicle, an electronic maintenance vehicle, an electromechanical maintenance vehicle, a tools support vehicle, a spares and meter vehicle, and a power supply vehicle. HQ-64 Aspide HQ-7 Length 3.89m 3.7m 3m Diameter 0.208m 0.203m 0.156m Wingspan 0.68m 0.55m? Min altitude 0.03km 0.015km? 0.03km Max altitude 12km 11km 5km Min range 1km 1.3km 0.5km Max range 18km 15km 8.6km (400m/s target); 10km (300m/s target); 12km (helicopters) Speed 4 Mach 4 Mach? 2.3 Mach? Reaction time 9 sec Single shot hit probability 60 to 80% I honestly don't know when did this missile enter the service. Probably after the dissolution of the Soviet. But once again, probably not. However, I still wanted to list it here because this might be the only modern Chinese SAM we can get for a long time. Anything newer than this are highly classified. Things like HQ-12, HQ-16, HQ-9 etc., are just way too new. Even the HQ-9 is currently the working horse of the PLA. IMO, there is no way we can get enough data or permissions to make them in DCS anytime soon. HQ-64, however, though it is still in service, is at a stage in which it is getting its superannuation in order and looking to purchase a house in the countryside. HQ-2B This is probably the only Chinese long-range regional air defence system we can get in DCS. As I have mentioned earlier, the new ones are too new. In 1965 the PLA began to develop an improved SAM based on the HQ-1 (a direct copy of S-75). 2nd Space Academy (now China Academy of Defence Technology, CADT) was responsible for the general system design, with 139 Factory and 786 Factory in charge of missile and ground stations respectively. The main design targets were to improve the missile’s accuracy and resistance to enemy electronic jamming, as well as to increase the missile’s operational zone. The new SAM, which was designated HongQi 2, passed its certification test in 1966. Since then, the HongQi 2 has been produced in mass numbers for the PLA to protect China’s major cities, military bases, and industrial complexes. The PLA has also introduced a number of improved variants, including the HongQi 2A and HongQi 2B in the late 1970s and early 1980s. On 8 September 1967, the PLA air defence troops fired three SAM (two HongQi 2s and one HongQi 1) at a U-2 spy plane, and one of the HongQi 2 missiles hit the target despite the plane’s use of electronic jamming. The latest score of the HongQi 2 SAM took place on 5 October 1987, when the PLA air defence troops shot down a Vietnamese Air Force MiG-21R (Fishebed-H) reconnaissance plane using the HongQi 2 SAM near the China-Vietnamese border. In 1984, the PLA conducted a series of HongQi 2 tests against the Tuqiang-3 guided target missile. According to reports, the HongQi 2 and the Tuqiang-3 were launched approximately 100km apart and the HongQi 2 SAMs were fired in “salvo shots” of two to three missiles per Tuqiang-3. Four out of five target missiles were shot down. In more tests the following year, the HongQi 2 shot down seven out of eleven guided targets. In light of these two tests, the PLA expanded the HongQi 2’s role to include anti-missile functions. The HongQi 2 is a large two-stage missile designed to intercept high-altitude targets like strategic bombers and spy planes. Its radar guidance guarantees a single-shot hit probability of 68%, but according to the American's experience in the Vietnam War, this ratio drops sharply when the missile is used in a strong electronic jamming environment. The improved HongQi 2B is said to have much-improved capability against various active and passive jamming. The second stage of the HongQi 2 missile is a large liquid rocket, which makes it inconvenient to be maintained and transport. Each missile is carried by a semi-trailer towed by a 6x6 truck and needs to be loaded onto a fixed launcher before firing. The loading usually takes about 5 minutes, but this really depends on the training and experience of missile operators. The basic operational unit of the HongQi 2 SAM is a battalion, each including six fixed launchers, 18 spare missiles, early-warning radar, target illuminating radar (ground guidance station) and support units (command, power, communications, etc.) HQ-2A The modifications on the HongQi 2 SAM began in 1973 to enhance the missile's low altitude target engaging and electronic countermeasure capabilities based on the experience of the Vietnam War. The firing tests of the HongQi 2A were undertaken between 1978 and 1982, and the final design certification for batch production was issued in June 1984. The 144 modifications on the HongQi 2A include increasing the horizontal firing angle to ±75° from the original ±55°; increasing the speed to 1,200 m/s from the original 1,150 m/s; increasing the G limit; adding optical/TV guidance system and improving the missile's electronic countermeasure capability. HQ-2B The concept of HQ-2B was considered in 1978 as a further improvement on the HQ-2, and the design work officially began in 1979. The PLA requirements for the missile include improved electronic countermeasures capability, expanded operational zone, shortened preparation time, simplified and mobile launch equipment, and the ability to attack high-speed targets. Operational tests and design certification trials took place during 1980~1986, and the missile entered service with the PLA in the early 1990. HQ-2B firing Compared to the basic variant HQ-2, the HQ-2B features some fundamental improvements in its design. The main improvements include: Missile: Redesigned fragmental HE warhead and more powerful fuse for increased blast radius; New improved rocket motor for higher speed and expanded operational zone; Encrypted digital radio command guidance for better anti-jamming capability; New onboard power unit with much-reduced weight; Increased G limit; Ground station Computerised fire-control system to improve the missile’s accuracy and reliability; Extra high-frequency range-finding radar, electro-optical director and mono-pulse radar on the ground guidance station; Multiple guidance (radar, electro-optical) for higher resistance against active and passive jamming; Automated command and control (C2) system with a large display screen Launcher Self-propelled (tracked) launcher with self-adjustment capability and onboard power unit for increased mobility and reduced reaction time; Simplified ground support equipment; If necessary, the missile could also be launched from the older HQ-2 launcher. This is the Radar of the earlier variant. The Radar of the B variant HQ-2B is retired and was replaced by KS-1. So we shouldn't have any problem getting them in DCS. Phew finished. I have been writing this for a whole day. I bet I have missed some detail or made some mistakes in there since I am tired. If I spot them, I will add them later. Ciao. Going to sleep now. Enjoy the read.
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A listing of all variants of J-7 and J-8.
PLAAF replied to PLAAF's topic in Deka Ironwork Simulations
Story of prototype 04. It's merit on both J-8II and III. The video had a lot of interesting pictures. For example: I have never seen this cockpit before. -
The WS-15 is marked for mass production, and the airforce is upgrading the J-20 fleet with them. The new engine is said to have a thrust of 18.5 tons, which is better than the F119's 17.7 tons thrust.
