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Not to derail the thread, but imho ED needs to create a unified platform for modders, something like github or gitlab for programmers. Currently the whole modding scene is a mess. Some zip files on a google drive, some dude posts them to mega, another one in the forums, some files are 404. I truly believe modding is the only alternative to bring DCS on par with expectations. Many DCS pilots have been in the military themselves and can provide valuable insight into procedures. This knowledge would vanish with them if they'd lose interest in DCS due to lack of sufficient improvement. Does anybody remember the original Counter-Strike? One of the most successful games in history? Guess what, it was a mod at first that eventually changed the landscape of competitive multi player gaming.

Absolut verständlich. Was ich Dir anbieten kann, wäre eine Installation auf einem 2014er Mainboard von AMD mit integrierter Grafikkarte mit maximal 1GB shared memory. Wenn DCS dort starten würde und man z.B. auf ein Flugfeld käme, hättest Du mit modernen Laptops mit integrierter Grafikkarte wohl kein Problem. Kann aber ein paar Tage dauern, heute oder morgen komme ich zeitlich nicht dazu.

That means without the VR headset, the PC runs a prolonged stress test fine? If the AC/DC Converter of the Reverb G2 has grounding issues, ground flows over the PC case, which is really bad. Just an idea.

Jetzt verstehe ich, es handelt sich um ein physisches Cockpit. Das wurde mir aus den o.g. Texten nicht klar. Hast Du denn irgendeinen PC mit einer dedizierten Grafikkarte da, an welchen Du dein Cockpit anschließen kannst? Du brauchst wahrscheinlich ein paar USB Ports und einen HDMI Port für die Instrumente und MFDs, richtig? Dann könntest Du dich remote auf den Tower PC aufschalten und das sogar völlig mobil per WLAN, oder eben per LAN Kabel. Das wäre auch mit deinem alten Brotkasten möglich.

Ich verstehe beinahe nur Bahnhof. Also der Laptop soll zur Erstellung von Missionen dienen, mehr nicht? Oder wie soll der Anwendungsfall aussehen? Hast Du denn generell Zugriff auf einen leistungsfähigen PC? Ich entnehme deiner Aussage, dass Du nicht in Deutschland bist. Nehmen wir an, Du bist in Thailand, dann könntest Du doch remote auf dem Rechner zu Hause arbeiten. Latenz und Ruckler sind Dir ja sowieso egal.

Wenn dem so ist, dann verstehe ich das Fehlen eines "coolen" amerikanischen Flugmusters in der Free to Play Version umso weniger. Viele werden 'ne ganze Nacht runterladen und stehen dann wie gesagt vor Opas Rappelkiste oder Yuri's 80er Jahre Backstein. Das ist nicht meine persönliche Meinung, ich mag beide Flugzeuge, aber viele werden so denken.

Hatte kürzlich das gleiche Problem. Die Laptop Preise sind ja noch verrückter als der Rest des Hardwaremarkts. Ich habe dann einen aktuell nicht benutzten Server hergenommen, mir eine Grafikkarte für viel zu viel Geld gebraucht bei ebay gekauft und fliege remote aufm Laptop. Wenn ich mal richtig einen Draufmachen möchte schließe ich einen der großen Bildschirme an und Boxen. Also: Server + Grafikkarte machen die Rechenarbeit, schicken es per LAN an meinen Laptop und der stellt Bild, Ton usw. dar. HOTAS durchreichen ging auch mit einem kleinen Hilfsprogramm. Alles in allem billiger, schneller, absolut flüsterleise und ich kann wie gewohnt zuklappen, wann ich möchte. Und mein Arbeitslaptop ist nicht mit irgendwelchen Windowsgeschichten verschmatzt.

How did you manage to map the HOTAS? I'm using remote gaming software into a Windows VM plus VirtualHere software to pass through the HOTAS "natively" into Windows. I could even use the Thrustmaster software, if I wanted to. Every axis, button, works like the thing is plugged in physically. Tell me how you tackle the problem, appreciate your remarks.

PSU, pretty certain from what you've described and sorted out already. You don't happen to have a spare PSU to test? Also, try to flip the PC case 90° since these graphic cards weigh a ton. Then look at the 6 or 8 pin connectors and find out if they wobble. How is the VR headset powered? Via USB only or dedicated power cord?

Tja, gebe Dir Recht. Technisch gesehen müsste das kein Hexenwerk sein. Aber ich verstehe auch die Arbeitslast eines Programmierers / Entwicklers / Grafikers. Alle reden immer von Krankenhausärzten (auch vor der Pandemie), keine Sau von den Menschen, die mit ihrer Tastatur verheiratet sind und enormen Stress haben. Und monetär gesehen ist FC3 für ED sicherlich nicht die Cash Cow. Also selbst wäre der Wille vorhanden, wäre die Priorität weit unten. Aktuell scheinen ja viele Spieler Todesqualen zu erleiden ob der Unspielbarkeit dieses Machwerks Beta 2.7. Wenigstens ist das meine Empfindung, nicht jedoch meine Meinung. Was ich als viel offensichtlichere Fehleinschätzung sehe, ist die Tatsache, dass es in der Free to Play Grundversion keine amerikanische Maschine gibt. Das verstehe ich nicht. Wir alle kennen Top Gun und wissen, welchen Effekt der Film (obwohl imho ziemlich trashy) auf die enlistment Zahlen der Navy hatte. Bemerkenswert. Warum in Gottes Namen gibts kein amerikanisches low fidelity Flugmuster? Ich meine, man schaut sich die youtube promo vids an, kriegt Speichelfluss, und dann.... ein russischer Bomber mit russischen Instrumenten (ok, liegt in der Natur der Sache) und ein Prop bei dem Opa sich wieder wie 30 fühlt. Hmm...

I believe we're not 15 year old kids here bashing each other, ED or the "stable players". I find this forum very civilized, for an internet forum. My intention at least is to bring concepts that work elsewhere over to other professions. I have almost zero professional cross section with anything graphical, be it animation, games, whatever. I'm an armchair quarterback when it comes to graphics dev. Sorry to have diverted the thread away from OPs request. But I believe evolution diverts, that's the nature of progress. One more idea: Maybe it's better for new modules not to rely on the beta version as a neccessity. I get that 2.7 altered the internals of the rendering scheme to use newer graphics architectures better. But for the future I wouldn't want a superb model perhaps like the Apache to be ruined by something unrelated, namely beta software. Most people don't make the distinction.

1. Because the MP community wants the new hot stuff. That's their impatience problem. I myself NEVER buy a new hardware platform. If Intel, AMD, Dell, Supermicro, whomever, releases another "quantum leap in computing power" I ask myself often who the hell falls for this trick anymore. My platforms are all at least two years old and yes, the computing power for 99% of customers is more than sufficient. I also don't run Windows Upbreaks the day they release, never. 2. No VR, sorry. Hope to hop on the bandwagon soon since I heard it's amazing. 3. Currently I'm in charge of ~ 50 physical linux clusters, probably 150 - 200 machines with thousands of VMs and CTs. The hosts run stable branch, of course. The VMs and CTs ALL, without exception, run testing. All Debian, some CentOS, rarely anything else like BSD. But hey, the Arch guys blame anybody who's running 5.4 kernels to be a dinosaur. Yet, why is it that under 5% of the linux universe runs Arch daily? Oh, wait, yes the answer is... Arch breaks ALL the time. I believe the Debian scheme would REALLY improve expectation levels around here, seriously. You run sid or unstable, well you've been warned.

For the most part, yes, surprisingly stable. Only crashed repeatedly as a fresh beta install, but that was probably my fault. Once I extended the page file, everything went fine. I once had a hard freeze, probably due to thermal issues of the graphics card (froze the whole host). It can get bloody hot in the server room this time of year since the AC isn't turned on yet. Then, I'm well underspec'ed compared to those hardware beasts that people run. I only run a server grade CPU 4 cores + 24 GB RAM + 1060 GTX and I can play mostly on high settings to my liking. I even play remote, that adds latency, but hey it's not a shooter. However, I'm assuming my setup is as clean as can be. Windows 10 + upgrades + DCS + NVidia drivers, nothing else. NOTHING. No helper this, no anti-virus that, except the "Great Defender of Redmond".

Also don't forget that the perception is skewed. People rarely hit the forums and post something along the lines of "Hey, beta 2.7, works superb and stable, thank you". People open threads when something goes against their liking, naturally. We have a saying in Germany: "It's cooked hotter than eaten".

No, you have many more options, one of them being: Install Windows twice (separate partition, hard drive) and don't even bother to activate the "beta windows". Or run Windows virtualized like I do, then you can take snapshots of the current hard drive state and if something with ANY update (DCS, Windoze, drivers) goes south, rollback. It's not as complicated as you might think. I bet these days you don't have to touch the command line for such a profane setup. GUIs and web interfaces for everything. If you're interested, I can elaborate further and point you to guides, videos and such.

Hey, silverdevil, how dare you didn't mention BACKUPS BACKUPS BACKUPS! Seriously, it's always a great experience to read the humble words of another professional. Most people don't realize how many moving parts modern software systems are comprised of. I bet not anybody on earth knows everything about Windows alone. Not one! Same is true for hardware, down to the electrical components, further down to physics. You are spot on stating that people should be grateful for DCS World. It will never be perfect, never! It's software running on mostly broken hardware (yes people, they sell crap and you buy crap). The evolution is just too fast and people demand too much. We've seen over the years so many debacles, 3dFX anyone, it's funny to me so many people willingly still buy the PC hassle... for money. I thought back when Playstation came out that within 10 years no gamer would dare to touch a PC again. After all they wanna play games, right? Not be developers and bug hunters of their own. If we could appreciate ED's mission a bit, maybe they should show the life of a typical ED programmer in a video, everybody would lean back a little bit and probably help in a constructive manner, rather than to expect perfection.

1. I'm new to the community, but I heard the interview of Growling Sidewinder with Nick. I think it's about 10 months old. If just half of the ED crew has the same perspective on DCS and work ethic, I believe no one needs to worry about major bugs ingressing into the stable branch. 2. The ED dev team is relatively small for such a huge project (feature wise). I think the correct approach almost never is closed beta. On the contrary. In the Linux world we even use a more fine granulated scheme, namely four stages. unstable, sid, testing, stable Everybody can install and use every version of software for free and is encouraged to provoke bugs, and report them back obviously. I think this would be the way to go. Don't lock out anybody. If someone with an old gaming rig wants to try the brand new clouds, good for us since we receive telemetry. If someone with a 4K $ VR Setup is brave enough to risk the headache in Beta, great. And so forth, you get the point. In essence, three or four stages of releases, BIG WARNING SIGNS (you get what you pay for), and everybody can experiment to their liking... or not.

Habe mal gehört jemand arbeitet mit einer eingeblendeten Tastatur (innerhalb des Cockpits, also VR) und mit AHK Skripten, um Aktionen oder Sequenzen in low fidelity Flugmustern auszuführen. Ansonsten viel mit HOTAS und Modifikationstasten arbeiten. Man könnte z.B. die Leertaste oder Return oder TAB zur Modifikationstaste umgestalten, sodass HOTAS "erweitert" wird. Diese Tasten sollte man auch in VR erfühlen. Ich weiß, nicht optimal alles, aber FC3 als reiner VR Spieler zu kaufen war auch nicht optimal

At some point a software developer, and in EDs' case a relatively small one, has to jump into the pond and upgrade the new release. No software dev I know of has all the combinations of hardware revisions, software revisions and driver versions at hand. So bugs will surface certainly. That's expected. Remember the first time you rode a bike? You didn't expect a smooth ride, did you? Software is a highly dynamic and complex structure. To make matters worse, the developer (in this case ED) doesn't control all the moving parts, namely Windows, NVIDIA / AMD, user space software like those ugly suites that come with your flight stick and the list goes on. I get the impression that people don't realize what BETA actually means, no offense intended.

Not to derail the thread here but does anybody happen to know why ED decided to incorporate the multiplayer server as a Windows program and not a Linux one? Not talking about stability here, the obvious one, but also the network stack of Linux made competitive online shooters possible in the first place. Among so many reasons I shouldn't mention because then I derailed this thread FOR SURE.

You are probably right, but I have seen the weirdest interactions of both hardware and software imaginable. On the surface totally unrelated. Let's not forget, many many threads use the same system calls and memory, one platform. Proper thread isolation is nothing Windows NT was ever proficient at. Other users reported that a certain Windows Update for Intels microcode breaks DCS, while rolling back to the previous state fixed the issue for some.

A quick glance over your dcs.log revealed that some files couldn't be loaded. One house, some cloud textures, a vehicle and two graphics for the A10. Do you use an SSD? Recent Windows Upbreaks? BTW, did you manually set your pagefile to 32 GB?

Lovely! Perfect explanation. Thank you! I myself tend to drift too much into technicalities when talking to users. Your post should appear as a nag screen before entering this part of the forum so that anybody is on the same page

Nick in the mentioned interview also talked about "new rendering scheme in order to benefit from modern graphics architectures" (loosely quoted). They way I perceive the current situation is, like with all good catastrophes, a culmination of three factors: 1. Major DCS update 2. Microsoft hotfix regarding Intel microcode update ... as if Intel EVER gets hold of the exploits due to their uber bad CPU architecture 3. NVIDIA also incorporated the virtual gaming capabilities into their driver. A wild guess by myself but the way virtualized architectures work (which is among my specialties) is they add a layer of abstraction but also of complexity. I have no data that supports my gut feeling here, but history has shown that once a stable system that's being injected with another abstraction layer usually suffers greatly in stability in the beginning. Some people act more emotional than others when it comes to frustration. If you can't stand the current instabilities and they ruin your mood, by all means, roll back to 2.5.6. To me personally I see it like the late von Braun: "I don't see an exploding rocket, I see opportunity to learn. As long as we receive telemetry from the rocket, it's not a failure to me" (loosely quoted).

I'm running an even worse setup + virtualized, although I have a GTX 1060, but should be in your ballpark. Please create a screenshot of your settings page. I'm running most things on high and get 60 fps and like ~ 40 on the ground, which is fine for me.