BiPod

I believe the C model has a tow bar listed as an optional extra. Don't know if ED has implemented it though:smartass:.

I never thought to test this as I just assumed the extra drag would be the dominant factor, but you are right (at least for beta 4). Light weight (56%), Full brakes, FULL FLAPS, Airbrakes retracted: 46, 47, 47 Light weight (56%), Full brakes, NO FLAPS, Airbrakes retracted: 45,45 Heavy weight (87%), Full brakes, FULL FLAPS, Airbrakes retracted: 35, 35, 34, 35 Heavy weight (87%), Full brakes, NO FLAPS , Airbrakes retracted: 30 ,31 So retracting flaps does reduce stopping distance. Though as Effte points out, this may not be worth the extra pilot workload. Interestingly (Read: this goes against my hypothesis) the effect was only minimal at low weight. Perhaps a tipping point was crossed at high weight that was not crossed at low weight? Or perhaps I am just plain wrong. Taken together, this just strengthens the consensus which I beleive Effte, Yo-Yo and myself are reaching. A/S and skidding factors may need tweaking. @mvsgas As per PheonixBvo's answer. You raised a good point about mentioning the A/P. All tests were done at Gudauta with a quick test at Kobuleti to confirm the results. Different (beta) surface factors will totally change these results. I should have mentioned this.

Hi Conure, IMHO the CDU contains a lot of functions that you just don't need, so if it is too daunting don't worry, just like the ABRIS in blackshark. ED has put terriffic effort into every detail even if you rarely need it. (Thankyou ED. This is why I love your sims:)). -You NEED to know what the dials at the botton do (steerpoint, other etc) so you are set up correctly. -NAV(or UFC function->2)->divert is handy for locating a nearby airfield and getting frequency info. -You should also learn what information is available on steerpoints/waypoints. EDIT: INFORMATION AND FUNCTIONS. docehrenhoefer's rumble below is correct. The rest is just icing on the cake. Systems status, reboots etc... (I can almost hear the rumblings of disagreement from other readers). Unfortunately I know of no quick way to learn though, so get comfortable, settle in and read. If you have a second laptop to read and play at the same time this helps enormously.

Nice one Agg:megalol: Hmmm....early evening. Small Dot. Very High. Could it be Venus? (serious suggestion).

Also note that using the pinkie switch may cause the ?beacon? switch to deactivate. So check the panel after using the pinkie if the lights are still misbehaving.

Wow! my hat goes off to anyone who can fly the Blackshark without a joystick :joystick: You will find the A10 MUCH easier to fly with or without a stick. However, the weapons systems are more complex due to the increased number of ways to make the ground go bang! If you haven't made up your mind already, and your budget allows, I would recommend spending extra for a good HOTAS joystick. My Saitek x52 is excellent and cheap for what it does (I push the keyboard aside as all functions have been mapped). If your budget doesn't go that far then anything will do, but the more buttons the better:). The TM:Warthog is for those with very deep pockets (I am sooo envious). Cheers.

To clarify, I have not stated that the modelling is wrong but do note that many posters including myself have felt that braking is sometimes lacking. As my pilots log indicates, I have had vey little time in the real C model (zero hours:D , lots of zeros in that log!). The tests were done to find the best stopping practices for accidental long landings. The results indicate that braking power is not the limiting factor, but traction seems to be the problem. Hence the empty aircraft took longer to stop, 3/4 was better than full brakes, and slamming the brakes makes matters worse (extremely bad if you are using a push button for the brake). Cycling the brakes made things worse also. I agree with effte, it seems very odd that A/S exacerbates rather than reduces problems with skidding, but I'm not qualified to state that it is wrong. Cheers, BiPod.

EDIT: As this topic has just been bumped, I will stress that this was done with Beta 4. I beleive that the surface friction model was tweaked for the final release so the results below may now be redundant. There have been many posts reguarding braking and stopping distances. Though many suggestions have been made all seem to be based on anecdotal evidence and texts. I have now tested over 50 landings and present the following empirical results. (Only the conclusion needs to be read, the rest is just detail). Conclusion: 1) Anti-skid GREATLY increases stopping distance under all conditions tested. 2) Best stopping distance is A/S off, 3/4 wheelbrakes, Full airbrakes. 3) Anti-skid greatly aids handling especially at speeds < 50 kts, but 3/4 wheelbrakes with no A/S is just as good. 4) Stopping times were LONGER with less weight. (Same as an underweight car). 5) Pumping the brakes made stopping distances much longer. 6) suggested landing configuration A/S on for safety, 3/4 wheelbrakes, full airbrakes. Turn off A/S if runway overrun is looming (long landing). THE FOLLOWING IS JUST DETAIL DON'T BOTHER READING UNLESS INTERESTED. Method: A track was created with overspeed landing at idle. Tests were conducted by taking control of the track at 130-140kts and applying brakes (slider assigned) at 120kts. Results were ALWAYS reproduceable within 1 second (OK sometimes 2), due to this, many measurements were performed only once. nb. My SaitekX52 timer was 20% slow (though it keeps good time) so it was not used. Results: (Beta 4) Notes: -Stopping time was measured not distance (too hard), but by eye it seemed a fairly accurate substitute for distance. -Using 3/4 brakes was almost always better than full brakes and even more important when A/S was on. -3/4 brakes (slider estimate by my eye) appears to be about 60% according to Ctrl-Enter Graphic. -Hydrolics were never seriously affected and remained near full pressure. -No tires were popped except under deliberate oversteer. -% Effect of turning A/S off was greater with higher grossweight and airbrakes extended. -With A/S off, airbrakes only had a minor effect! (by percentage) -Airbrakes may spoil lift and increase down pressure on ground thereby reducing skidding. -Wet weather may alter results and crosswinds may make A/S more important for control (not tested). It appears that the A/S is tuned for stability and safety rather than stopping power. Skidding was more effective than maintaining traction under these conditions.