Colt40Five

that is the A model...

And most of the time what they tell you changes...so best to wait and see what actually happens...

boneski did you just suggest that ED will let a 3rd party developer compete with them on releasing aircraft for DCS? Preposterous! i would love it if it did happen as competition is always good for the consumer...but ED will never let this happen.

Well I know A-10 drivers call themselves "fighter pilots"....and lots of the pointy nose guys probably disagree with them...All I was trying to say is that while I love the A-10...it can't give me my turn and burn fix...unless it's on fire and spinning...:doh:

I don't really count the A-10 as a fighter...I mean I know technically it's classed as a fighter, and I love it for what it is but it is a dedicated CAS aircraft. When I think fighter I think fast and pointy...and it will be years before ED gets to anything like that if their current announced agenda goes forward as planned (I know when has it ever...). Anyone who is waiting on a modern fast mover sim should be hoping other devs get their projects out sometime sooner than EDs timetable. Until then it's FC or F4...

This chit-chat forum sucks.... no one looks in here...

Anyone else having problems logging into lockonfiles? When I go to the main page I see this: There is no security code to enter...and when I try to click anything else I get this:

I put a post up at lockonfiles forum about me figuring out why it is I'm not as excited about DCS:BS as I think I should be and how it really doesn't matter that you might want to read Beach. I was going to post it at SimHQ (and may still)...but they've been down as you know...

Lost as in until a few days ago the advertised expectation was these capabilities would be available for use in conjunction with the current flyables.

And I don't see an issue with this...as has been stated earlier in this thread we wouldn't know we were missing anything...

A critical factor to immersion in a military sim is the sound environment created by comm chatter from awacs, other flights, tower etc.., and this has been lacking from ED's products for some time. Are there any plans to have a more active comms environment in DCS:BS?

What we have lost by BS not being an add-on to LO/FC is: New terrain area over which to operate LO/FC flyables Use of the improvements to the campaign system and mission editor with the LO/FC flyables Use of KA-50 in concert with LO/FC flyables in multiplayer Use of all the new AI units with existing LO/FC flyables Having the updated AI FMs and probably other stuff I don't even know about...

By contracting them (and paying them) to build you what you want? I don't think it will be cheap...maybe we have some wealthy lock on fan who will "buy" his own personal dream sim from ED?

Specifics man! This is a list thread... :D

What I am hoping is that it might be possible to at least gain the ability to do more with the layout of the available instruments/capabilities so that more realistic optional flyables can be created. The AdA mod team have done some amazing work just be re-doing the textures...imagine if they could really move stuff around the instrument panel...add A-A refueling capability....add the Su-25T weapons system features to a new add-on aircraft for "proper"(ie not all buggy like it is now when you try to use shkvall capability in non 25T aircraft) use of laser/optically-guided weapons. Not everyone will want to participate in making or using these mods, but many, many people will. If other sim title's life-cycles are any indication, modability is the key to long life after the developer cuts support. ED could really make a huge goodwill gesture to their fans and give us a more free hand to continue to enjoy their sim. But then again I realize they may see any future community development of LO/FC as being a competitor to their new products, but that's for them to decide. I'm just voicing what my wishes are. It's all I can do.

After seeing what the community can do with the limitations of the current system (like the AdA mod) I'd like to see what would come out of a more open architecture. Of course you are free to choose the mods you use and who you play with online...just like now.

Okay LockOn/FC fans IF ED release a 1.13 patch to close out the LockOn/FC era what would you like to see included? My wish list: >The new terrain area from DCS:BS...I want more map! > Fix the AMRAAM....no need for discussion on this one... > Open up the game to further community modding. Specifically 3D cockpits and FMs. (the ability to make and add new terrain would be nice as well). Okay guys let's try to just give a list of what we would like to see, not go on rants about all the stuff that should have been fixed long ago that is more than likely going to get you banned. All we can do is put it out there and hope ED cares about the future of LockOn/FC as much as their customers do.

Not me... I want a Jaguar! :)

If you're waiting for one from ED than yeah it's gonna be years. There is a remote possibility that Fighter Ops or Lead Pursuit will have new offerings before then though...

Ha! Shows what you know... my Su-33 mission pack dealt with an American carrier group violating that treaty to support Georgia...and the Kutz coming in to clean house... :) IMHO it's all about having options to create real OR fictional scenarios(remember it's about fun first)...but like I said above since I won't be flying off the Kutz in BS who cares?

If they wanted to placate the whiners, they would come out with a PROPER F-15C. :D

The forum is still there but instead of threads, there is only the message I posted above.

Since there's not going to be a flyable Su-33, I could care less what they do with the Kutz in BS...

When I go to the new forums all it says now is:

I have to have a disc with no activation crap...and hopefully no SF...although unless they retroactively remove it from FC I guess I will have SF installed on my system until ED or LP or FO come out with a modern fast-mover sim.