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Not really, it was already stated elsewhere: And that means no countermeasures dispensers, IRCMs, RWR, or MLWS. So stay away from any missions where there's anything heavier than BRDM-2's 14.5mm KPVT.

Alpha One Six posted the FAA document where you can find the WSPK limitations - basically anything above .80" diameter, less than 60° off course, and more then 5° movement in elevation, and if below 30kts, will get you in trouble. Just be glad there are no anti-helicopter mines simulated in DCS :thumbup:

It's been some time since I flew low level in DCS, but what I remember is that the only power lines are the high voltage transmission type. Wire strike protection kits were not made to help with with such heavy gauge wires, rather to protect helicopters from effects of striking, a low and medium voltage power line - which are hard to see.

To my knowledge such configuration is an amalgamation of what could theoretically be put together. Overall setup is similar to the RAAF Bushranger, but there are some differences: - Non of the Bushrangers I saw had both upturned exhaust, and RWR mounts on the nose; - The miniguns have no gimbal - they are fixed, and zeroed with the FFARs. You just don't want to have anything moving into the rocket flightpath :smilewink: - There is no "pentagraph" sight for the co-pilot, but both crew members have the M60 reflex sight.

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There was something wrong in that screenshot I couldn't put my finger on, untill I viewed it side by side, with this one: Why is the crew in DCS Huey so tiny ?

Umm... I have no idea what that might be. Actually I have many ideas, don't know which one would be correct.

Fair enough. Now I have to think over if I want that helicopter just for itself or not, as it won't be useful in the online missions I fly.

Not at the moment, although I might dig something up. Doing my research I found out about at least two ex-UH-1Ds (I wrote about such helicopters elsewhere) that were modified in the States by Northwest Helicopters LLC. Those helicopters were "zeroed" - meaning fully refurbished, giving them a "factory new" status. Plus some modifications upgrading them t "Huey Plus" variant (something like Bell 210 Huey II... but not trademarked ;) ): - dash-703 1800shp engines; - 205A1/212 transmissions; - BLR Tail Strake kit; - BLR Fast Fin kit; - NVG capable cockpit and exterior lighting; - new engine filters (AFS); - composite rotor blades; - changes in avionics and electrical wiring. Basically, with exception of MLWS and countermeasures dispensers, those birds were kited out similar to the US DoS ones in Afghanistan. Here are few pictures of those Hueys: I might look for more info if I have more free time.

Now, for Cowboy10uk and few others interested in the evolution of UH-1H since the production date (1965), here's what I was writing about: UH-1H in Vietnam: Few things to look for - look at the nose, how "clean" it is, no bulges (mounts for RWR sensors), the frame around the windshield doesn't have rails, only few antennas, and no blades for cutting wires above or below the cockpit. Now, a different UH-1H, photographed in West Germany mid 1980s: Note full "Striela kit" - the exhaust duct, shielding plates on the engine sides, and a plate shielding oil cooler underneath the helicopter, where fuselage goes into the tailboom. There is also a visible blade for wire cutting above the cockpit, and you can almost make out the wire guard rail on the edge of front windshield edge. This one is interesting: Note that there is no wire strike protection kit on this bird, but already have nose bulges with RWR sensors mounted. And the one behind it have M56 racks for mines dispensers. Now for ALQ-144 "Disco Ball": Although not many were retrofitted to carry it - to my knowledge, only C^2 birds did, and those were soon replaced by H-60. So the UH-1H is a 48 years long history, and still going. Countless combinations of equipment - that's why I want from Belsimtek to specify what exactly they plan to do, because some will not survive over Georgia against what's available in FC3 or CA. And some others might do ok in the right hands. And the yellow highlighted text in unfinished could-be-changed-entirely manual is not helping.

1. The game was released, it's DCS: World, what is discussed is the price, of an expansion to it; 2. The price was confirmed to be $49.99 which is an increase over previous expansions: P-51, CA and FC3. Preeptively: A-10C was a stand-alone title, not an expansion.

Wait... there are 50 beta testers for DCS ? How can you do anything !? :P They (US DoD) got themselves into a corner because the Golf designation was given to the first Cobra, therefore not used for a Huey. Then there was a Foxtrot, which was a mashup between Bravo fuselage, Delta tail and transmission... and SeaKing engine. Plus a Foxtrot designation was also given to a Cobra, because why not ? And Huey designation continued then from Kilo, but those were also based on the short body model 204s - mostly based on UH-1C - so Kilo, Lima, Mike, November and Papa (which was an armed Foxtrot) with the exception of November (double engine Huey) and Victor (medevac version of the Hotel Huey). So the last designation of single engine, long body Huey, was Hotel/Victor (I'm not counting Japanese Juliet... everything in Japan is Juliet :P ) even though the model 205 still was developed further which you can notice by the civilian model designations: 205A, 205A1, 214, 210 etc. So even when the USAF bought few years ago, few single engine Hueys, made from scratch, with new technologies, they are still designated Hotel variants. Those designations are a MESS! :lol: Plus the German variant made by Dornier are designated UH-1D, even though they were licence build UH-1Hs. Nope, as many people here: I'm a junkie :pilotfly:

Curious, because Spain, Italy and US DoS, are flying the Hotel models with said equipment, that's for one. Two: black NVG-ready cockpit, and radio altimeter were not on the Vietnam-era machines, only on the ones retrofitted in the 80-s... with RWR, removable "disco ball" and countermeasures dispensers. There were also on the 1965-1975 no wire gourds on the windshield corners, and no wire cutters above and below the cockpit... also no RWR sensor mounts on the nose. Therefore Belsimtek is not making Vietnam-era bird, but at least one of State-side, or Western Europe of late Cold War variant. :smilewink: @Cedaway: You're probably overestimating the input public can have on the product in the beta stage - it does have its place in network heavy titles, where you need large numbers of people to stress test the system (Hawken, Mechwarior Online, Tribes:Ascend, Planetside 2 and War Thunder are coming to mind). In DCS kind of simulations products - that's what core beta team is for, and it's usually more than enough - if the beta team consist of the right people it will over task the development team. Trust me, that's what I do in my free time.

Why ? Have you seen what Spain, Italy, US DoS is putting on those birds ? It's not like we're flying over Mekong Delta. Is ED&Belsimtek expecting of us to fly in DCS:World in Huey only in Huey specific - low threat environment ? And it's not like I'm asking for something that was never utilized on this platform.

Don't you find a problem in that ? How can you tell what exactly you'll be paying for when buying the beta ? If everything is in state of flux, what's stopping anyone from scrapping everything someone may look for, in exchange for something else. Let's say weapons for C^2 gear (a bit extreme example). I wish ED and their partners would stop with this "public beta" business model, and just release final products, it would spare us the confusion and risk management. I turned out good on not buying the A-10C in its beta stage, and rather bad when bought P-51 beta... not a good track record, and I do feel I'll regret buying the Huey at public beta release... It would be probably an easier choice if the business model looked more like the Bohemia Interactive one - yes they are selling a product that is in Alpha stage... but at a half of the final release price. And I'm not getting here into the discussion of is the $49.99 a right price for this product, or not. But is asking for a full price, for a product that may be expected to dramatically change - the right business model to base on?

It actually confused me, because, should we consider the manual complete at this stage, and the final release will have what's in it, and nothing more ? Where's RWR, MLWS, ALQ-144, chaff/flares, other weapon systems, etc.? And if not - then what's the point in bringing up radio altimeter, XM60 sight, and other things that will not be in the Beta ?

I think Macaco thought it works like in the Bell 206, or Hughes 369 where idle cutoff is an actual physical stop, that have to be pressed/lifted to operate the throttle in full range. In the Huey the component that is blocking the 5-0% movement of the throttle is located near the engine, not the collective lever, and as Krebs20 wrote - it is operated electrically... unless it fails ;)

Maybe Nealius meant STAR ? Because why would you need an instrument departure route after being shoot at ? ;)

No, best glide for a Huey, is pretty much the same as for many other helicopters - 60 kts. But! It is also the minimum autorotation speed when over 7500lbs gross weight (bellow it's 55 kts). Therefore in practice it may be a good form to go faster, to give yourself some margin for error.

Of UH-1H, in color ? It's a challange :smilewink: BTW, the hamous one is an UH-1D.

Hmm... The Marines, never flew the long body - single engine Huey. I'd rather see one from RAAF, VNAF, New Zealand, Lebanon, Spain, Italy, Colombia, El Salvador, Honduras, Bolivia, Guatemala, Morocco, Macedonia, Greece, Philippines, Taiwan, Thailand, Turkey, Venezuela... you got the picture :smilewink:

Sheer boredom.

No TOW on the Golf Cobra, for that you need later Sierra or Foxtrot models, or the twin-engine Tango and Whiskey ones. As far as the armament for Golf Cobra goes, it's mostly 2,75" FFARs, but also minigun pods, 20mm Vulcan (although with limited fire rate), and... bombs (napalm, fragmentation, cluster).

There are lots of flavors of the Georgian UH-1Hs too ;) UH-1H Huey Plus, modernized by Northwest Hellicopters in 2009, those have composite blades, 1800shp engines, BLR Tail Strake™ and Fast Fin™ enhancements, Bell 212 transmissions, new avionics, NVG capability, etc. etc. :smartass:

For Dynamic Rollover to occur 3 criteria had to be meet: - enough lift generated, to roughly equal helicopter weight - a side force - a pivot point (skid or wheel touching ground, or hang on an object) The classic design with tail rotor may be more susceptible to this because the tail rotor creates a side force in one direction at all times (the design is also less susceptible in the other direction for the same reason). Now because of the helicopter design - width between contact points, height of center of gravity, mass of the spinning main rotor - etc. you have three different limits beyond the helicopter will tip over: - angle of bank or speed of bank for dynamic rollover to result - angle of bank for static rollover - this one is usually twice as high, and is non recoverable The only way to recover from developing dynamic rollover, as long as there is still time (critical angle or angle/sec. is not yet achieved) is to either lower, or rise collective - either planting helicopter firmly on the ground, or lift into hover.