JunMcKill

Good point boquinauer, but your (our) fight against ED testters, trying to have a more realistic simulator is lost from the beginning, someone will reply you with one absurd answer that no one will believe. For example the Exocet misile that sank UK ships in Falklands have a diameter of 4.7 meters, warhead of 165 Kg and a total weight of 670 kg, the KH-29T have this parameters: Weight Kh-29L :660 kg (1,460 lb) [3] Kh-29T :685 kg (1,510 lb) [3] Kh-29TE :690 kg (1,520 lb) [3] Length Kh-29L/T :390 cm (12 ft 10 in)[3] Kh-29TE :387.5 cm (12 ft 9 in)[3] Diameter 38.0 cm (15.0 in) [3] Warhead HE armour-piercing[1] Warhead weight 320 kg (705 lb)[1] Detonation mechanism Impact [1] If you see, is more lethal than the Exocet and you will never sink a frigate in DCS with them.

it's impossible to download the mission in south america, I think you should post the trk prior the mission, to avoid lots of downloads at the same time.

Nice I'll be there, what is the server name?

I did the translation from wikipedia from spanish and yes, you're right the translation of the doppler and IR is wrong. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vympel_R-27 By the way, I never noticed when the russian SARH head activates in the R-27R or ER in the last stage of flight, only in the R-77 activates about 12 km from target. But both the AIM-120C and the AIM-120B did what the manual said about them, they activate the radar homing about 10nm from target. I have lot of tacview as evidence of what I'm talking about the ER radio guided bad flight perfomance, and the last search stage which never happens. The worst perfomance of the ER is when you launch from below to a very high enemy, even the missile reach the enemy height with enough energy they fly to "the infinite and beyond!!!" (keeping the lock all the time), the enemy defeat my aircraft radio emision and radar (because the ER guides using radio the 70% of flight isn't it?) with a couple of barrel rolls and no chaff.

Thanks!

ED testers, could you check please the R-77 flight?, it's reducing the speed seconds after launch to 450 and 560 knots TAS, it's a realistic? any site I read about the R-77, says he fly about 4.5 mach max

And at the same time, if we take his answer exactly when he said " But I can tell you that I saw the entire ground-to-air engagement and even during the initial stages there was no doubt that I had no way out. I did everything to avoid impact,but the truth is there was no way out", that answer take me again into the discussion about the countermeasures reliability and the effectiveness against soviet SARH missiles below 20km distance, most ED testers here defend their position that it's possible to avoid with chaff and maneuvers FOUR R-27ER launched below 20 kms distance (I have the tacview and the track if someone wants to watch it!) let me tell you guys, one or two maybe, BUT FOUR!???

And more about: Callsign was Vega 31, pilot was Lt.Col Dale Zelko. Basically the target that night was of high importance and near Belgrade. It was also a difficult one because of exceptional Russian state-of-the-art defence systems operated by motivated and well-trained crews. Several missions were sent previouosly against that target without success, his was on the 4th night. I'll translate directly: During my initial penetration into Yugoslav airspace, I was monitoring a primary attack frequency, listening to other events that were happening as part of the attack sorties. Even before boarding, on the aircraft shelter, i sensed that if there was a night where it was particularly appropriate for my plane to get shot down, this was it. I was plainly conscious of my vulnerabilities, and the risks and dangers that the mission presented. The information coming to me through the radio during ingress only increased the sensation that something bad would happen that night. Thus, when it did happen, I was not surprised at all. To tell you the truth, I watched the whole thing happen. He was asked whether he received any RWR warning, to which he did not answer owing to the fact that it involved the Nighthawk's capabilities. Still secret. He went on.. But I can tell you that I saw the entire ground-to-air engagement and even during the initial stages there was no doubt that I had no way out. I did everything to avoid impact,but the truth is there was no way out. And remember, I had a front row seat during the entire engagement. So, was it pilot error? No. Was it maintenance? No. Was it a good shot? Yes, it was a good shot. I think he never received the signal of the modified P-18, or he never fly at only 13km of the SA-3 system, maybe he was warned about the lock of the tracking system, but couldn't avoid the missiles. Anyway he will never disclose is there was a flaw in the RWR system ... classified!.

Here you are: The stealth kill On the particular night of the F-117 shootdown, 27 March 1999, Zoltán Dani broke his own ruleset. He had information about unfavourable Adriatic weather conditions and Serbian spies residing near Italian NATO airbases informed the Serbian Air Defence HQ about lack of EA-6 Prowler electronic jammer and "Wild Weasel" anti-SAM aircraft launches during the late evening. Therefore any F-117s in the air on that fateful night were literally alone in the dark, but with high crew morale due to their invulnerability during previous day's sorties. In the evening, Dani's P-18 long-distance radar set malfunctioned at 19:05, almost the same time when four F-117s prepared for take-off from Aviano Air Base to attack targets in Belgrade. The repaired P-18 radar returned to air by 19:50 and started to emit at the specially modified lower frequency. Lt. Col. Dale Zelko's plane (tail number 82-0806) and three other F-117 flying northbound were acquired at 20:40 local time and so the SA-3 battery's fire control radar went on air to provide a riding beam for V-601P missile launches. The UNV radar emitted at high frequency for 2 x 20 seconds, but it was unable to obtain a lock on the targets. Lt. Col. Dani then ordered a third illumination round, against his own rulebook, but knowing that NATO lacked immediate counterstrike capability on the particular occasion. Lock was obtained and at a distance of 13 km and an altitude of 8 km. Two SA-3 missiles were launched in short succession, with one obtaining a proximity fuse hit, as notified by an automatic radio pinger burst. The F-117 was structurally disabled by the sudden minus 6G negative load and stall-crashed in inverted position in an agricultural field, near the village of Budjanovci. The pilot ejected successfully and was rescued later on by NATO Combat search and rescue helicopters. The F-117's large kite-shaped titanium engine outlet heatshield is still kept by Dani in his garage.

Here is a translation of how the R-27 works: "The missile is guided to the target by a combination of proportional navigation method: radio controlled inertially guided during the first phase of their trajectory (70% thereof), and at the end the homing head is activated (by semi-active radar or infrared pulse doppler depending on version) and it will continue to guide the missile to its target. Once the missile is at the optimal distance from the enemy aircraft (10 to 15 meters), the active radar fuze detonates the warhead of the missile, consisting expansively explosive shrapnel. This combined approach enables reliable tracking of the target at long distances. The missile can be guided along paths that allow precomputed special conditions for the operation of the seeker head and the proximity fuse. It is able to avoid enemy radar estimated lobe and approach a low-flying object from a certain angle." In this case the american RWR has to know all the radio frequencies used by the inertial flight of the R-27, which I can tell you is variable, and can be adjusted by the pilot prior or during the flight.

When I told about TEWS I was refering to RWR, sorry, the F-117 has very advanced RWR and he never received any signal from the two incoming S-125 Pechora missiles (SA-3 Goa), that's is what I talking about, the real capability of the american RWR systems to know when a SARH missile was launched.

You re right Crescendo, and you forgot to tell: left behind the "green" interests and continue thinking in a real simulation, and not let the game go to the investors interests (IMHO!). I began the last series of complains in this area of the forum, and my complain was about F-15C RWR, and I gave two testimonials of two american pilots, Lt Col Delko and Lt Col. Rodriguez. For what I know (I dont have any prove on paper) what I can tell you, is the Mig-29A and UB and 23ML dont change frequency or waveform when they lock than when they shot a missile from BVR, and the missile do not return any radio signal to the shooter so you cant know where it is during the 70 to 80% of the flight.

Look, the AIM-120B and AIM-120C looks well modelled, the F-15C launch both in TWS mode and you dont know what is coming until the C become pitbull, let me tell you, I like that! it's more close to real life! but please, do the same with the R-27R or the R-77 it's not fair with the soviet technology and AAM doctrine. If you see now the roster of any server, there are guys in F-15C with 17 kills and only 7 or 8 deaths (some guys really excelent pilots like Spade 17-1!!! WOW!), in the red side the best one: 4 or 5 kills versus 8 deaths! LOL!

Because it is convenient to your F-15 clients GG, not for reality, and dont tell me that I dont understand the missile technologyif you dont know who I am, I was IT investigator in the Cuban Armed forces in the 80s and we did a lot of upgrades to russian missiles and the R-27 predescesor the R-24R which was used succesfully in Angola in those years!. The radar STT emition does not change when the missile is launched than then one that lock you, if you dont want to see facts and listen to the real protagonistics in those combats, is another thing!

One question to you Expert, how the F-15C TEWS is 100% sure than a SARH missile (like R-27ER) was launched? in fact he can only receive the lock from the enemy aircraft, the real prove is that in Kosovo war Lt. Col. Dale Zelko's plane received two older SA-3 missiles and he never knew what was coming, in his own words! even with a better TEWS than the F-15C simulated in FC3. Another prove is that in the gulf war two F-15 approach ahead to two irakies MIG-29 and one of the F-15C (Lt. Col Rico Rodriguez), received the lock from one MIG-29 and inmediately began evasing maneuvers because he thought that a missile was launched, NOT by the TEWS signal!. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJHMZimHH9M) That's is what we want for the russian missiles, not to repair the flight course or chaff evasion etc, but the SARH missiles dont emit any signal and the american TEWS show the warning from the very moment the missile was shot, that's is wrong. Thanks!

I will post you how I launched ET from rear aspect at less than 10 km to see what you will answer then. And what about the ER? they need rear aspect too? what about the 4 I shoot at less than 12 km and a couple of chaff sent them to the space?.

Hi guys, good discussion, I have a beautiful tacview track here (and the original DCS track too), if you want to check the really BAD perfomance of the russian missiles, you will see how a F-15C only moving the plane head up and down, and releasing chaff evade 4 R-27ER, distance to the enemy ? less than 20 kms!, in the second round you will see how I shoot two ET below Rtr to a frontal F-15 with only EOS and the guy with flares evade both less than 12 kms! in the other side they only shoot an 120C and killed me with only one missile each time, it's ok than 120C is the best missile of the world but I don't beleive that russian missiles are SOOOOOO bad. That's my opinion.

What kind of ship is? looks like a Tarantul corvette which have a displacement of 480 long tons (488 t) standard, 540 long tons (549 t) full load. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarantul_class_corvette Unless you shoot antiship missiles or a maverick with antiship warhead, you will not able to sink it! Her antiair capability is very limited because only have SA-N-5, but have a CWIS cannon: 2 x AK-630 30 mm gun or 1 x CADS-N-1 Kashtan CIWS (Close-in weapon system) for air defence

Hi, I installed the latest DCS World, version 1.2. I had setup all my graphics to LOW, and select the quick action option to fly the SU-25T. at the beggining everything was OK, i moved the mouse all directions and OK, and then use F11 to view the airfields, when I returned with F1 to the cockpit, there was not cockpit nor plane nor pilot, I was sitting in the air and only the plane shadow was visible. I have a DELL Vostro laptop with i7 CPU, nVidia GEFORCE GT330M, 4GB RAM. Regards.

Youre right, another thing with missiles is that the russian missiles warn the enemy from the very time of launching and its not true, russian R-27R and ER uses a inertial and radio guidance of the plane the 70% of fight, activating the radar only about 12 kms of the point the enemy suppose to be. In the case of AIM-120C its emulated ok with the same kind of guidance.

FA-18 with multiplayer or AI WSO I hope will be FA-18 superhornet, but including a WSO AI for single payer and a human WSO in multiplayer, it means than a human can pilot the F-18 and the other be his WSO in the back seat, amazing!!

Hi, if you want a real TANK simulator, buy Steel Beast, this company like Eagle dynamics, design software for real combat trainning and in the same time they release a light version (but very professional) for PC payers. http://www.steelbeasts.com/ You will enjoy it.