Katmandu

Like the Flaming Cliffs 3 :doh: :megalol:

The hope is that adding FC3 mode is cheap and will attract aditional fans into DCS as well as convert some of those who sit on the fence with regards to particular modules. So "invested effort" should be nearly the same as for making the module in the first place, but additional revenue for the creators and expanding fan base should make it simbiotic for everybody (including the people who do not care for FC3). The whloe point of the thread was to use "duplicates" of the existing and announced modules :)Not pie in the sky "which plane would you like in FC3?" kinda poll. FC3 planes take a massive amount of effort to make - AFM, 3d model, cockpit, systems, weapons- and the suggestion here is to re-use the already created fully clickable modules. Just like ED did themselves with "game" modes in the fully clickable Ka-50 and A-10C, but with FC3 replacing "game".

Я включил только те которые уже вышли или заявлены. Ф-35 пока вроде не было в анонсах или я пропустил?

The kind of people this poll is aimed at: or etc :)

"None" is the answer for the "elitists" whom I've discussed in the OP. If you feel that FC3 is "War Thunder" and that FC3 is surplus to requirements - that is fine, but the premise of the FC3 forum's very existence is that there are other people who value it for what it is. I mean, seriously? Since when did WT have AFM, radar pulse repetition freq/doppler effects and the like? Not to mention huge maps and single player/coop campaigns. We have thousands of views in the mods section in threads that discuss making models of e.g.F/A-18, Su-30, Pakfa, Tornado, F-16 - all with existing FMs from the current FC3 craft, most even keep the default F15/Su27 cockpit... Plus, with only 10 slots max for the votes I ran out of slots before I could mention A-10C, Mig-15, Sabre, Gazelle, etc. This poll is not about making any steps - forward or backward. Clickable modules will continue to exist, as will the FC3 ones. Ka-50 was a definite step forward in simulation, and the evolution is undeniable. But I am not proposing to replace the current Ka-50 fully clickable version with an FC3 one. What I am proposing is to replace the "Ka-50 game" arcade part (with 360deg all seeing "radar" and simplified flight physics) of the Ka-50 module with an FC3 one. Same with A-10C, same with the upcoming F/A-18. And same with the other full sim modules that do not have "game" modes right now. You do not need to make it twice, FC3 mode keeps the AFM and radar/shkval/Lightning pod implementation, it keeps all the physics and simplifies only some of the avionics.

Cоздал опросник тут, заходим и голосуем (ED & Co выберут все равно "Путина"... но вдруг нет :)) Какие из настоящих и предстоящих тренажер-модулей хотели бы вы увидеть в ГС3: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3444867#post3444867

Probad, lets be progood :) The F14 thread https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3444857#post3444857 was aimed at F-14 devs/crowd only, this is a general FC3 discussion.

I've decided that this thread should also have an outlet in the FC3 forum, come on in for a chat and a vote :) : https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=205882

First things first, this topic is only for those who enjoy FC3, not for the "elitists" who call FC3 "arcade", "pointless now that there are clickable modules" and other such lark. If you like the philosophy behind FC3 (sort of IL2 for modern air combat), which of the current and upcoming modules would you like to see get an FC3 version? For example, do you want to fly Ka-50, but do not want to spend the time necessary to learn its systems? Or, have you learnt the Ka-50 2years ago, but forgotten everything and and can't make yourself start all over again? Vote here to have Ka-50 have a Su-25T like implementation and make it into "like riding a bicycle" forget-proof version. Same hardcore physics and weapons, just simplified procedures (FC3 level). N.B. I do hugely enjoy both the fully clickable modules and the FC3 craft. One thing I personally would like changed in DCS is the replacement of the "game" parts of a fully clickable module (like "Ka-50 game" or "A-10C game" with FC3 counterparts). For one, it would make easier to come back to a DCS module after being away from it for a while, when relearning its systems may not be as appealing as the first time round. But there are lots of reasons for FC3's existence of course, summed up by one RL Airbus pilot as "FC3/IL2 is for times when I'd like to fly and not work):) The economics are important of course, but I'd be happy to buy my "full fat" modules with an included FC3 version, or a standalone FC3 plane. EDIT: An example algorithm on how to condense a full sim module to FC3 (pseudocode for FC3ing the full sim Ka-50): https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3448774&postcount=40 and (EDIT_3) similar thing for a more complex multi function jet like F/A-18C or F-16C https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3454878&postcount=77 EDIT2: Some common concerns and possible answers: Concern 1: Answer: Concern 2: Answer: Concern 3: Answer:

Wilco! Thanks again.

OK, thanks for the answers! I don't want another DCS install so I'll wait for the DCS e-shop sale.

I'm thinking about getting the Harrier in the ongoing Steam sale, but my main DCS install is standalone. Will i be able to activate steam module on my standalone? Sorry if this is a common question, but there were some recent changes with activation, offline use, keyless modules etc etc so I am not sure about the current status quo.

A-10C Sturmovik (A-10C naturally enough) and Eye for an Eye (F-15) work well right now.

Which variant and do you have a linke for that info? Is Harrier going to get a radar?

В стиме у меня ДКСовского ничего нет, а с защитой вроде перемены какие-то происходят. То 3 дня было, теперь бесконечная активация. Не знаю имеет это отношение к активации ключей, поэтому спросил. Плюс - если нельзя стим ключ активировать здесь - то будет ли распродажа дублирована в магазине ДКС.

Распродажа на Стиме будет дублироваться здесь? Или можно там модуль купить и тут активировать? Подумываю Харриер прикупить

Не надо буквоEDствовать Говорим про тяжелые модули синих и красных. Миг-15 и Сабля туда же. "Сравнивать продажи кликабельных модулей "синих" просто есть с чем.

Оу йес бейби?

Ми-8 и Хью :)

Мне показалось или Чиж как-то говорил что Горячие Скалы - самый прибыльный модуль ДЦС?

Видео наверное боян для старожилов, но только сейчас увидел. Что за Су-24, кто делает, какие планы на релиз? А так,по голосовалке, Ф-16 и Миг-29 -все что мне нужно :) ((в придачу к Ф-14, Су-27, Ка-50, Хьюи, Апачи, Кобре, Ми-24,Команчу, А-10C, Хэрриеру, Ф-4 и Ф/А-18 :D)

Thanks, will try it again. from what I remember, you are initially asked to fly from Batumi towards Sochi, and asked to divert only once you're in the middle of the Balck Sea... Thus, Vaziani is a long-long way away. Maybe I strayed into the wrong corridor as there are no waypoints and flight paths with it being an in-flight diversion. From waht I rememebr it was a an abosulte slaughter hause with something like a dozen+ Russian gen4 fighters making quick work of the Gerorgian Mig21s and 3 (?) F-15s. But will try it again too :) Yep, that is how it all played out for me as well. The F/A-18 flight has done all the work as I had nothing left at the last checkpoint.

I am still playing through the campaign - thanks again for releasing it feefifofum! I have finished misison 10 yesterday and have a few comments. 1). The campaign seems to be workign perfectly with 2.5 (VR), no issues at all so far (apart from serious issues with fps in misison 4, but this is also a problem in 1.5 and single screen, this mission is nigh on unplayable.) 2). The difficulty in most missions is absolutely spot on. All missions up to Mission 6 and missions 9 & 10(mostly). it is not plane sailing, but managing your wingmen, calling support flights and having an odd bat-outta-hell low alt escape works great. 3).Maybe Mission10 needs a look, at least for single player (for coop it may well be fine) Still, a fantastic mission that really comes alive with the support flghts that you call via F10, an actually useful Tanker and plentiful voice overs. One of my favourite missions, together with Eye of the Storm and Snake in Grass. 4). The first mission (remake of the famous FC2 "Justice" mission) would be memorable too if the passenger plane redirected when pressed, like it did - and does - in the "Justice" mission. Here I had to shoot it down every single time as it would not respond to anything. 5). Could not get through missions 7 and 8, despite multiple attempts. Too many enemies in both cases and, in case of mis8, no idea where to fly. The directions are confusing and I always end up against a swarm of Su27 that consume all my missiles for no apparent gain. Look forward to Missions 11 and 12!:pilotfly: many thanks again!:thumbup:

С такого ракурса мне тоже кажется уродом, типа когда слишком много кг сбросил но прокачанная спина у него просто офигенна. Тут красавец Про Красоту Миг-29 согласен, плохих ракурсов просто нет имхо. Как и у Ф-14 и Ф-16. При продаже "Made in China" айфона лишь 10% идет в Китай, помню с учебника по экономике :)

The video in OP says that Vive's limit is 8m (so line number 8 ), for Vive Pro it is 14m. Would be cool to double check of course. 1 meter increments. Nothing wrong with honesty, we have nothing to gain from faking our reports + each set should have multiple owners chiming in. Even if the text strings were randomised, we'd still need honesty as there is no impartial optician checking our guesses :D