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A native English speaker would refer to it as a dust cloud, or a cloud of dust. The landing huey created a dust cloud, or it raised a cloud of dust when it landed.

I'm in. I registered, but have not posted yet EST by the way

I agree, look into the sun the next time you are flying ;)

This update list is exactly the same as the June 21st update with the exception of the addition of the ADF fix.

Not to change the subject ;) but... As I have become more practiced with the sim, I really appreciate the ETL vibration. I don't think the devs should tone it down, I've come to rely on riding the burble for approach. I don't find it too violent, nor do I feel like it has any impact on control.

you will be in ground effect as soon as your rotor disk is over a solid surface. That's what makes rooftop approaches and departures more challenging. Anticipating when the ground effect cushion will affect your approach trajectory, and when you will lose the cushion on departure.

An interesting thread on the Hovercontrol boards about tail rotor location Hovercontrol thread

Wish I would have thought about a track replay before I reinstalled the module. Mind you... I was able to land before I reinstalled, but I did feel like I was encountering VRS too easily still. After the reinstall, it seems much less pronounced. Alas, I have no proof in facts of anything. I can say however, I have maybe 30 hours on the DCS Huey, and my approaches are still lacking the hand of experience. After reinstall, I tried a normal approach from 500 AGL, and a low level quick stop and I felt more in control.

Wow, this thread has gotten way out of hand.

Just an observation from my limited flight time. Helicopters at the airport I operated from did get clearance from traffic control, but never taxied to runways and waited in line for takeoff clearance. They were given a vector, advised of traffic and were cleared.

Don't take me the wrong way. It was a "stick my neck out, cover your ass" all inclusive statement. I do believe the VRS was toned down after I reinstalled.

I think you may be on to something here, or its just placebo. I as well, reinstalled the huey module and found the VRS to be much less pronounced and was actually able to successfully execute a low level quick stop without becoming a fireball. Gryphon - it's not a patch, it's the whole huey module. Download the latest huey module from DCS website, then - Go to module manager from the DCS home menu, click on the installed tab at the top. You should then see your installed modules. Click the trash can icon to the right of the huey module and uninstall it. Restart your computer, then run the exe for the huey module you just downloaded (version ending 186) Edit: I still had to update the training and UN campaign manually. Are those supposed to be fixed with the updater?

Or uncheck the controls match HOTAS on startup in options

I would say your control setup needs tweaking. I use positive 12 points of curvature in the axis tune for both pitch and roll on my t16000m, which is 8" tall and has hall sensors instead of pots, so it registers minute movements precisely. Your setup will probably need negative 15 to 20 points of curvature. Play with the axis tune till it behaves/responds like you feel it should.

Nice 205 livery! With the Fast Fin mod for the tail rotor on the right Check it out here

Very insightful, thanks bear

There is an output shaft on a turbshaft (ie: helicopter turbine). The gas exhaust goes out the tailpipe. Bear was explaining the clutch operation. I thought it was centrifugal, like a weed wacker, but this must not be how it works.

The sprague clutch then, is why the rotors don't start spinning until the turbine hits a high enough rpm to engage the clutch?

viscous centrifugal clutch?

The first priority in an automation is to get the ship to the ground at a survivable speed. The second priority is to cause the least amount off damage to the ship as possible. If you don't have enough rotor rpm to hover, set it down. Otherwise, keep practicing until you can get the correct rate of decent to have enough rpm left to set it down from hover. Also, payload & weight need to be taken into account for auto's. I would not try to hover in an auto near gross weight.

That was a reference from the book "Chickenhawk" by Robert Mason, and that discussion already came to the conclusion that the US Vietnam era Huey's had metal blades, and the DCS huey is modeled from an early 80's version with composite blades. Composite blades are lighter and have less inertia due to lower mass, but produce better fuel economy. Anyway, during an auto, blade inertia from blade mass is not all you have to rely on. You need to learn to balance decent versus speed to keep rotor RPM up. As you descend the air moving up through the rotor will increase RPM if you are on the correct glide path. Too steep of a decent can actually over speed the rotor.

So it is in effect, more like force trim?

Agile like this Or this ...or...the fantabulous Bo-105 Do not get me wrong...I appreciate the hippo, like I appreciate the Sea King, but agile, they are not.