Dirt_Merchant

I totally understand your concern here and agree that is a problem for sure - the good news is that there is a solve for this, though it has a caveat, which is stupid, but may be acceptable... I took this from the A4E Discord - i hope this isnt any kind of toe-stepping!

It seems that there should be more to this than just "its free so no".

Hello all! i hope i am not retreading tired ground here - but has there been any consideration for adding the community A4E module to the server? it would be a shoe in for the ERA and has become a *very* good module. additionally there are arrangements to ensure that not everyone who joins the server would need to have the mod installed - so no worries for those that dont have it. last feature to this would be to open up some opportunity for new cold warriors as the module is free.

Yes - several of us have done something like this:

right on man! Would you be willing to do a write up on your process for the mmjoy2 path you've taken? it would be huge for others working through this! I've also got a desire to do flashgod's g940 rework and knowing how you've approached the mmjoy work would be super helpful! here is flashgod's project: https://github.com/Flashgod-VR/G940-Total-Conversion-Kit

I've done exactly what you described above - but used a virpil controller. Consider getting active on the DIY Virpil forum. They are more helpful than you might assume. As for trying to nail down the functionality of the grip via MMjoy2 - that seems like a not so fun project. Additionally, securing a virpill controller board would let you make use of the virpil configuration software. if you are unable to get one, consider using freejoy instead of MMjoy2. My mod:

I used mine for years, they're good but only the stick is worth having - and yes you're correct about the hardware and software mods they're necessary. big shout out to @fred41 for his contributions here!

would this allow you do so something like make a keybind for the flanker that would let you do asc override but only as a push button instead of a toggle?

i mean, i know what i'd charge for it, but it'd be insultingly high . maybe some handy person on the forum here can see an opportunity!

yes its worth it, and its worth it to mod it too. slap you a virpil grip on that hoss and you've got something very special.

@Franx - I'll buy the g2 for $250! j/k hope you get it working!

Just came here to say this is the best fckin MP server on DCS. Thanks for everything Alpen and team!

This is my favorite thread on this forum!!

Hello all, The trimmer functionality for FFB sticks seems to be non functional, if you could please add some option to allow for functional trimming with FFB sticks that would be fantastic. The FFB in the F-14 is so well executed - please at least make the trimmer work in the Viggen! Typically with a force feedback joystick the trimmer commands will move the "center" of the joystick via force feedback motor commands. With the Viggen there is no such displacement related to commanded trimmer configurations. Also i am able to see the trimmer diamond moving in the CTL+ENTER display but this results in no change to the trim of the aircraft.

can confirm that f-5 works perfectly well with FFB sticks - both the MSFFB2 and the G-940.

my point is that the trimmer surfaces fail to offset in this case, causing no net change to trim configuration. does that make sense now?

ok then - when you trim in another aircraft, the stick moves to new center position to align with the trimmer input yes? well not so in the viggen - it doesnt work at all and there no option to work around this unless you employ something like simffb which takes over FFB input entirely - so no more stall shake or anything like that.

Well lets start here, do you use a FFB stick? or are you familiar with how they actually work, as in do you have first party experience with them?

wack

ya this is a point, but fuckiing basic functionality is broken for me here:/ and there is no option to just turn FFB trim off like in other modules - or just go to centering force only - like there is no workaround outside of going to simffb as a third party solution. weak as mate.

depends on what you mean by dry etcher - is this a mechanical etching device? laser? are you etching a labeling plate, decorative thing, semiconductor dope, pcb? Also this one realllllyyy feels like the wrong forum - like not subforum, but wrong forum altogether.

well ima have to call bullshit on this one tbh, not your response of course, but on the devs not knowing what FFB is - as the F14 has fantastic FFB. So HB, how do you respond to this?

at the risk of having missed this as a known issue i wanted to call this out - i have been having issues with the trimmer being completely non functional. I am observing the "ctl+enter" controls display and i can clearly see the trimmer bug moving around, but there are no changes to the stick center on my FFB stick (msffb2) nor is there any affect on the aircraft's behavior. There are no FFB options in the "special" section of options, neither are there any FFB tuning options in controls... Any insight here would be appreciated - and if more info is required I'll provide what is requested.

love the enthusiasm around FFB, and yes do get you some ffb2's stockpiled! your thoughts on deadzone in real aircraft is deadass wrong though. there is never a no force zone, that would allow for flutter in the control surfaces which would go very sideways, very quickly. Almost all mechanical type systems (direct control) have some amount of preload applied to the control cables, or pushrods to take up any slack. if you're in an airplane that has slack in the controls, get the fuck out.

you know, it is there, and you can also feel the cogging of the motors, and the gears, but to be honest - when in use, you really dont notice it. There are a couple of gents on the forums developing FFB firmware for joysticks, and when that comes to fruition we will start to see several belt drive devices with anticogging measures implemented. of course, we'd be looking at scratch built controllers.