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What I don't really understand, is why we are given no news in regards to the FM from ED themselves. They're keeping oddly quiet on the matter.

RIP Snort My condolences to his family.

Yep, the best approach there is IMO.

Yeah I'm really hoping for that. A Gripen C in DCS would be amazing.

Gripen C could also be a possibility, seeing as it's soon replaced by the Gripen E. Likely won't be several years before HB make their next aircraft anyway.

That or a Gripen C would be nice. But it's so far in the future that we probably shouldn't talk about it just yet. Instead we should just be hyped that HB & TG are joining forces to bring us the EF even sooner than what would've otherwise been possible

Damnit, was just about to rewatch the video before I went to bed! Aaaargh 1st world problems are the worst!

This is truly great news, and I feel really happy for both teams, a match made in heaven IMO!

We've been asking for increased G-tolerance since the F-16 went into EA... Hopefully it won't take them another year to address this along with the long requested revisiting of the FM.

Definitely would be a nice upgrade with the more powerful RR engines (2,270 vs 1,890 HP, times two that's a good 760 HP extra), and the longer ranged and much more accurate CRV-7 rockets.

Indeed, there needs to be an vicinity effect vs infantry and very light skinned vehicles.

Excellent stuff NeedzWD40

Here's a question for the AH64 experts out there: What is the normal/effective engagement range of the chain gun as used on the Apache? Most guncam footage I've seen seems to show engagements around 1500-2000* (meters ?) usually. Is this the usual engagement range with the gun? Is it ever used further away than that? Note: For reference the Ka-50's gun in DCS seems usable out to about 4 km it seems, but it's also higher velocity. Hence I was wondering what to expect in regards to the Apache.

I also feel the DCS Mi-24 FM is very nervous/twitchy in the air, esp. being very rocky in pitch and yaw. I am glad to hear that the devs are aware there are issues.

Seen many different people in many different threads now complain about the rocky behavior of the Hind, so at least I know it's an issue for many and not few.

Definitely an instabuy

Just wondering wether the 20mm tracerless rounds (such as SAPHEI) have been fixed so they don't show as tracer rounds through opponents view anymore?

The Rafale demolishes the JF-17 in every respect, so no, it's not believable in the slightest - at least not in the way they're trying to spin it.

Fenin I'm not talking about stability when going at 250 km/h, I'm talking about stability at much lower speeds, and esp. during hover. Your tacview vid doesn't demonstrate anything contrary to what I've said. First of all because you're doing a fast strafing attack, secondly because we don't get an ingame cockpit view. As for doing a repair, not sure why you think that's going to solve anything.

The reason I don't believe in the "it's your control setup" theory, is that I don't have any of these issues in the other choppers. They are nowhere near as unstable in pitch and yaw, or as hard to hover smoothly & precisely, and there's not this awful rocking behavior that I've never seen the real Hind exhibit. Let's keep in mind that the Mi-24 is in EA, so there's a pretty good chance the FM is far from finalized.

I understand, and I am using quite a bit of curve on all three axes. However despite this, as well as anticipating the end of the spin, I can't get it to be very smooth and precise. I've been watching skilled DCS helo pilots take the Hind for a spin, and it seems quite twitchy even in their hands, even they seem to struggle with hovering it with any form of precision.

But look at how smoothly the real Hind stops the yaw movement as compared to what's possible ingame, there isn't this unstable yawing left & right after completing the 360 deg spin as in DCS, the real chopper just perfectly and smoothly settles. The DCS Hind really does appear a lot more nervous in flight than the real helicopter.

What bothers me the most is the sensitivity of the controls and lack of smoothness & precision during maneuvers, esp. at low speed. My expectations were based on watching real life demos, such as this one: In this demo, and others, control appears so smooth and precise, and the aircraft appears incredibly stable. i I can't hope to repeat those maneuvers in the DCS Mi-24, it's just too twittchy & nervous. esp. during hovering and at low forward speed.

Yes, in the case of the EF however 9 G capability is there with full internal fuel + 8x AAM's. Wether it's still there with a centerline tank as well, I don't know.

Thanks for all the advice guys, I'll try with all AP channels on & off later today and see how it goes.