captain_dalan

Early Vipers where pure rocketships performance wise. They would leave in the dust the DCS Viper. On the other hand, NATO had access to at least ML and BN Floggers and those were considered to be 'worse then an F-111'. I'm ready to take that as hyperbole, but it doesn't bode well for 23. They were never considered a WVR threat in the west. Could or would aerodynamic changes and new engines help the issue? Yeah. It would make a "death coffin with departure from hell properties" a half decent plane. Will it make them a match for block 5-15 F-16A? It's within your rights to chose to believe so, but don't expect to be taken seriosuly. BUT (and there's always a but), if by outperform you (or the author) mean pure dash, especially low level, i'm inclined to believe you. From all accounts they were some of the fastest things down low. Possibly even higher.

Hey guys, this post isn't directly related to the HB module, so if a mod thinks it should be moved, feel free to do so. Anyway, a while back we had this discussion on the TF-30's performance, or to be specific it's static installed thrust as listed in the F-14 manuals and it's thrust as listed in some brochures. The difference was largely explained as loss of air due to intake geometry and bleed air, but a few of us seemed to recall that at some very early point in the development, the engine was also detuned. However, we could not find any sources on the topic and the earliest official documentation we had, appears to indicate that the engines were always rated as such (about 17000lbs in AB). None of the sources i though i read about the detuning were available to me personally anymore, so i started to think i may be imagining things. And here comes this video that I just watched. These gentlemen flew on the 2nd cruise of VF-1, so that dates them 1975-1976 IIRC, and they do mention that during their introduction to the plane, they flew them clean (as in no external tanks) and with the engines tuned for higher performance. They also mentioned they soon after that, the engines were tuned down. The exact date was not mentioned, but from the context of the interview i assume it was no later then 1977-1978. Here it is, i hope you enjoy it. I most certainly have, maybe as a result of my bias. After all this is my favorite F-14 era

Possibly. Don't know how the wiring works for that thing and how it hooks up with the rest of the systems. I mean DCS implementation wise though. I guess HB will implement it as part of the TARPS.

Amen to that

Yeah, the boat will come at some point. And i don't see it being a minor feature, so why release a new potential source for fixes when there is already a full plate to work on. We already have a carrier (or two) for basic ops. I can see the mission creators wanting to get their hands on it though. I don't know how easy it is to convert a mission with one carrier into another, but i'm guessing it's easier if you start with what you intend to use.

Or did they? The Soviets didn't have direct access to an early Viper. NATO did have access to various 23's though. And people who flew them or flew against them, had interesting things to say about them

My sound settings need reevaluation!

I'm guessing those would come with the TARPS pod?

Eh, what use is a boat, if our planes don't fly right and our stick don't shoot straight?

Generated lift is equal to the lift coefficient (Cl) times the density of the air (r) times half of the square of the velocity (V) times the WING AREA (A). Now some come here with willingness to learn, others not so much. Chose whatever path you want, but cutting and quoting posts out of context is certainly a valid way to go, if that is the choice you've made. Also, did you fail to notice that "at airshow speeds that the OP mentions" disclaimer i put in that post? Or was it convenient to omit it? It's in your quote after all.

The Soviets thought many things. Not all of them were correct.

Those clicks when going over the AB detent could be useful indeed!

Yeah, but that would be at mach 1.something (3 or 4 if memory serves?) when due to the changes in airflow, the portion of the wings that generates lift will be moved further back. Google the equations for lift generation if you think i'm wrong. As for the high speed, look at the above answers. Yeah at supersonic speeds their effect may be measurable, but at airshow speeds that the OP mentions? In my opinion hardly any. Certainly not any that would improve your capability to generate noticeably more lift.

Count R-33's in there too

The contribution to the lift would be roughly proportional to the increase in lifting surface, which doesn't look like all that much to be honest.

I don't get it. Are you implying the glove vanes will generate enough lift to enable you to pull g's that you otherwise couldn't that slow? They also extended when wing sweep was (manually) put to bomb mode. Indeed.

I miss the smiling reactions.......alas, in their absence, here is championship cup!

No need for further info. It's in the aero data. With the wings back you can generate and sustain higher AoA. Nothing weird about it. And as @Airhuntersaid, you'll also generate higher drag, so you will decelerate faster, thus tighten your turn faster. Will you hang there indefinitely once you bleed yourself dry? Nope. But you can still do it if you set your mind and feet to it.

Awesome news, this one really baked my noodle!

Roger that

Is this front seat doable? I mean with Jester as a RIO? Can the radar be slaved to the TCS? I know the reverse is the default, as the TCS automatically slaves to the STT lock.

My pleasure! I still hadn't had a chance to test it under multiple scenarios. Not likely to get that chance this weekend either. So something may have creeped up without me noticing it yet.

Aha, i'll need to remove some of the custom liveries to make sure they all show up. Thanks! So 2 for A and 1 for B

Weird, my update just finished and i just started DCS for the first time in weeks. Loaded few instant actions so far (the qual missions) , but they all started with the FoV on default. Tried repair?

Yep, i think they are missing only in the mission creator. Or at least they did so for me 3 weeks ago. hadn't flown since, so i can't tell how things are after latest patch.