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impressive

For the smoke.. i think this is a good point for lomac that seem to be dated previous falcon era, nowadays, there´s a lot of smokeless propelents. And i think SAM wouldn´t looks like a space shuttle going up.

With all my ignorance, this plasma tech seems more "Lucy in the sky with diamonds" than anythings. Would i be widely wrong if i sayd that plasma being the result of active lasering you´ll need constant laser production, someway to counter / hide the laser emission, someway to spread constantly the plasma gas over the airframe in a way it´ll be effective for its intended purpose ? So we have the following problem to solve : Massive energy production Energy dispersion Energy shielding Constant gas emission over a surface suffering from extreme air flow Unblind itself this, to begin with... As much as i know technically speaking, right now its easyer to build a star destroyer, at least we already have the theory and techniques but we lack ressources. Um maybe we lack the shields for hangars.

I hope real.... It would be quite de useless to have them if we are able to cut the grass and if they provide no real cover.

Awesome.... i hope to see 50 sometimes.... We skydivers are beyond 200..hehehe

Lom ac is the nicest once, it only can´t get much better because of the colours...Lomac BW is scaringly real...

Nice effects.. Buts seems too much redbull set your tailpipe on fire ...:D

Nice pedals:thumbup:... I had to transform my non usb CH pro to toe brakes, but its not confortable, and they´re quite used now. Any link to where i can buy them ? well, its common knowledge that Cougar pots are crap. In 3 years i already had to commend them 1 time, and right now i got so much spikes on Y no game is playable, Z axis is already needing retirement. I´m also tired to get my hard dismantled just to try to clean them, lasts times, to no avail. Weren ´t they weak, there wouldn´t be SO much mods upgrading Cougars HOTAS by flusing original pots like you did. weren´t they bad, people would have found a way to protect them, aquite cheaper solution than Hall sensor that i am willing to buy, as long i got spare cash for thoses.:huh:

Plasma in the sky ? = Great balls of fire ? :D

Payload restriction to what it could be (and not should) is good. What was all this talk about older times , older missiles etc... I am travelling to another galaxy or BS will throw us a little back in timeframe ? Yeah i know i´m landing in the soup.

So we[re back to the make your own planes, doublecross agents and get the counter detecting stealth plan of the ennemy.:D

Hotas then pedals thats true for any modern plan sim. Cougar is good but pots are weak after a time you`ll want to upgrade. It`s usually not cheap but it seems to be lifelike... Can`t say about any other controler don`t own them But i would like a counsel too what pedals are good & confortable to use with Cougar i got non usb ch pro pedals but they are too close and not very practical, nor confortable.

Ok resume : 1) Hello to a brazilian there´s too fews around. 2) retracting from my ignorant statements about MK2, had no idea Mirage had evolved so much, i got wacked and deserved it. 2) Make a few jokes about Americans , nothing offending just situational about bush politics. 3) Stated that the full mil. cockpit that i fly in LADS 2005 didn`t seem to be a MK2 cockpit but an older version, the pictures i got on internet display a much more clean layout. There was also a Grippen cockpit and it feeled eons ahead on the french cockpit. 4) Sayd French have a bad record here about pos sell contracts thats what primarily induced my disdain. 5) My keyboard here act as international when its not... strange. PS ? Never complained about the quality of the mod nut the plane choice... And no i dont have much ideas of how hard is it to bypass game constrictions, but i can begin imagine. BTW is theere a way to change FM, armement ? (no idea) And finally comented, a few things about probability of buy due to local situation in the next Brazilian program of modernization for presidential security.

Éé non, ça fonctionne bien ici :D mmmm, ;a doit "etre mon clavier qui est bresilien avec des touches non coventionelle. PS Correction sur mon post ant[erieur.... les Br[esiliens aiment les SU35 et non 30.

HOua tu tappes sur un clavier Russe ? :D Il faut dire que je suis un peu anti-franзais sur le militaire dыt a un passй non-йtique pos vente au Brйsil. Entre autre la baignoire Foch ast arrivйe iзi avec tout les fils йlйctriques arrachйs, ce que les milicos ont pыt arrachй ils lґont fait, mкme la machine a Coca. Si le Foch avait encore une relevance militaire peut кtre, mais ce nґest pas le cas pour cet vieil engin que les militaire Franзais on dйclarй publiquement non seulement Obsolйte, mais structurellement vieux (prйs a couler quoi). Mais apparament les Franзais changent aussit, si dґautres pays sont satisfaits. Quant au Mirage, ici les Brйsiliens continuent а acheter des vieilleries mais cґest leur problйme. Peut-кtre, quґavec Chavez ils vont se rйveiller. Dґailleurs dйjб que dґAssault a achetй 30% dґEmbraer, il y a de fortes chances que le Brйsil achиte Rafale. Dйjа que le F16 c/d est agonisant. En fait, vus la taille du territoire brйsilien, seulement 3 avions son plausible en retirant la politique : Eutrofighter (Trop cher) Rafale Sukhoy 30 f16 (e/f) Mais les Brйsilien ne sont pas disposй envers les amerlock dыt aux restrictions armementaire et tech. Donc a priorit mкme si Bush taille une pipe aux polititiens dґici et accepte de le mettre au youtube se sera difficile. En dernier cas (Non rafale) si les Franзais nґont pas trop poussй les nombre por le mk2 ce seras celui lб. Les russes au dйbut йtaient fous pour faire du Bresil une base de revente amйrique du sud-Centrale, mais maintenent avec Chavez, point dґinterrogation. La FAB (Force Aйrienne Brйsilienne) avait choisit le Su30 а cause de la transfйrence techno qui ne se limitait pas б lґaйronoautique mais aussit aux sous marins nucl[eaires, ancien rкve local. Extr[emement convenient pour les Russes, dйjа que les Brйsiliens sont connus aussi pour refiner lґuranium 30% moins Cher et 20% plus rapide que les techs Amerlocks, et qu нls sont aussi les auteurs des softs qui controlent les rйacteurs de pas mals d`embarcations USA. Mais iзi tout est toujours hazardeux a cause du motto des politiciens - "qui me paye plus gagne" et sans offence les Franзais sont forts lб dessus. Vuque cґest constitucionellement permit pour les ventes Militaires. Mais les guerres comerciales sont ainsi faites. Dґailleur la derniиre guerre dґIrak a йtй faite pour nous faire chier comercialement entre autre, car la France raflait tout les vente, et la chanmbre comerciale amerlok instalйe dans le consulat Polonais faisait plutфt vide. Quant au transfer techno les amйricains commenзent a ouvrir les portes avec rйticence a cause des Russes et des Franзais, mais mкme comme зa, ils ne suivent pas toujour ce qu'ils mettent sur le papier. PS: Aprйs investigations le cockpit militaire dans lequel jґai "volй" nґйtait pas dґun mirage 2000 mk2, зa nґavait rien nґavoir. Le cockpit du mk2 est bien "clean" dґaprйs ce que jґai rйussit a glвner sur la net. Je pensent quґils ont toujour peur dґune transfйrence de tech (dйliberйe ou "semi- deliberйe")des client vers ler Rusquies. Ce qui est rйs bon pour nous et les Russes. Ont dirait que le forum n[ aime pas les accents aigus sur les E

You know GGtharos is right, thats what i said in my post, its not practical. The only way to counter Stealth fighter is other nations getting tech and searching a way to defeat it or reproduce it in theyr planes. Why ? Because if reproduced USA will have to put ut something agaisnt the can opener they have now. And once they have it it can be stolen... Till there....Stealth is playing alone in the sandbox.

Fala Brazuca.

Ok come tu veux. Je vais devoir me rétracter car, aprés quelques recherches, il semblerait que les dernier mirages fournis semble réélement avoir réussit a joindre le top de l' aviation militaire en service. Quant au Rafale, il a été délivré en un temps miondre que le ef OK, en temps indiqué ? Non , En coût prévus non plus. Rien a foutre d´ailleur c´est extrémement normale. Quand au dévelopement indépendant il est sur que les projets on commencé ensemble et que les facteur que tu décrit sont valides, le facteur monétaire/temps plus que les autres, ainsi que plusieur facteurs politiques. Ou tu vas aussi me dire que la politique n´as rien a voir....Ou le marketing des nombres non plus, ou que le f16 block 50/52 est bien plus vieux que le Mk2. Ok Mk2 a sur 40 sorties battus les f16c/d. Mais si en passe par là, su30 MKI a aussi dérouté les f16c/d, ainsi que les harriers II on battu les f15c. Quant au français être arrogants, heuresement ceci change, ou ne somme nous pas connus pour être arrogants par excés de fierté ? Ainsi que les amerlocks sont aussi connus pour en général être arrogants mais pour des raisons diferentes ? Je trouvais bizarre que un non français défende si hautivement le Mirage mk2 et apparament, ayant raison, ce point est éclairci. T' est un peu trop cocorico sur les bords, au contraste que j ái été trop anti mirage ce qui m´a fait prende des baffes avec raison. Quant au Rafale je n´ais jamais mis en doute sa qualité, tu semble aussi aimer dévier le sujet pour ramener ton poisson en terrain connu, mai s hors discussion. Revenant au Mirage 2000-9 n´as t´il pas été dérouté commercialement par le f15 a Singapore et Corée de sud ? pourrait- tu me passer le link concernant la vente ou PRF de Rafales pour les Italos ? Merci. Ou n´importe quel autre vente. Succés technique sans le moindre doute, et de quoi en être fier. Financiérement malheuresement a ma conanissance pas encore. PS : Déjá que tu aime check six voici ce qu´on y trouve : "La france offre 2 milliard d'€ + 30 rafales a la belgique pour faire semblant qu'elle est le premier pays acheteur" Come on, Even we french, take the Rafale sells as a joke. Cool down, i said i was wrong ok ...lol

I don´t remember to have talked about any timeline in any of my mail... As Rafale was planned to replace any ADA this is obvious. Rafale is a excellent but uncheap piece of hardware. It was made in part to proove french could still "stand alone" in the modern air combat scenario, in part to counter Typhoon, in part because France was already aware Mirage had no future due to new hardware. They did an awesome job, but unfortunatly jeopardized by its cost. That dassault sold 7000 plane in its life doesnt mean they sold 7000 good planes or you will start to defend the "Etandard" or even the "Super Etandard" too ? Doesn´t mean the plane sold where up to date, or even new. As i said many planes sold are to "poor" countries that can afford only "2cd rate" planes and usually even second hand planes. As i said as you display so much experts i would like to read some about what have been written.Maybe your right , maybe i´m mistaken about the 2005 MK2 or BR as it was dubbed here. So bring some info...

Lets see my name Is Franck Pierre Rene Delcroix...If that ain´t a french name i want to be hanged. 90 % of the sells are african sells and south american sells, as far as i record the only 2 countries that bought those in SA are Brazil and Argentina. Brasil just bought 2 of them but thats another point. As for Mirage 5 being equiparable to f16 i would like to see payoad conditions... isn´t that fun that not even France believe in this project as they are desperatly trying to acquire funds to RAFALE. But i would gladly read the so called expert opinion if you can link them or send them, althought i´ll google and come back later. The operation in desert storm was second rate for mirage, this war was never a challenge anyway, even the Brazilian/Italian AMX have fought there...Brazilian Pilots also love the plane, its emotional for what i was able to talk out of them. You have to remember that pilots tend to develop an affective bond to theyr planes exactly as you tend to like your car or PC until it goes awry. As for mirage it has improved capability but still stay under most of today produced fighters in payload, armement quantity and variability, avionics have improved yes but... The cockpit as i sayd is still quite unintuitive, and high attention payload to internal config is what pilots need the least. I´m not a French hater, as i sayd i just don´t worship national crap. Now if it was Rafale its another entirely piece of hardware. And maybe i should have sayd falklands ? Malvinas maybe ?

I have a weakness for soviet external design over USA external design....my bad. Althought i prefer A10 a million time over S25....looks like a mirage era design.

Who would like to fly a mirage anyway, why would we like to get back to beetle age ?

Indeed it can be caled active mean. If you donґt cross ennemy radar effectiveness zone you wonґt be detected by it. That why weakly protected EWR are number 1 priority, cause you create blindspots in the ennemy surveillance array that can be exploited latter. I think the point is, to be able to penetrate ennemy airzone without being intercepted on time you must have RAM/Design. The above mentioned possibility are consequences of the later. The kind of active sthealth you mentioned where used before but were way more restricted, using terrain masking is a method, once you have pinpointed ennemy radar posiotion.

Yes there is.. cost/effectiveness/Usefullness. When cost reach space high, and necessity is difficult to be fully seen, then implementation is hazardous. In cold war there was real threat from classical army. Today play card have changed. The ennemy Nº 1 is cellular non-country related non classical organized army. There´s no army(ies) in the world capable of dealing with lets say 3 Nimitz class carriers. But thoses are useless agaisnt terrorism orgs. There´s a lot of people that prefer to see the money invested in 1 of those planes invested in double crossing people or in creating allies across the globe. Its much more efficient and less costly. You have to remember this prokecy is on the stake for more almost 20 years.

LOL your implying that all nations should drop radar ? You can still do a lot of stuff with an electric guitar fast enought that´ll take ages for digital monkeys beating a keyboard mixer accoupled to a hard drive to reproduce. Thats only the old armour VS can oppener struggle... When it´ll really matter someone will find a way to pinpoint more effectively stealth, and then the cycle will start again. Being able to fly around mean nothing if you can´t fly around. Pinpoinment of gaps in ennemy detection capability is an old stuff, and must be taken with care as it can be a trap. Information superiority is good only if there´s something to be known. Supercruise is fast but thats only speed, lenght of travel, it has nothing to do with radar but with IR, you don´t travel faster than radar waves.. not yet. Althought what you say make sense, RAM and design are still more important than what you said. Those are only consequence of the using of RAM+ Design.