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FPS VR kushajet na zavtrak v obed i uzhin! Na 7700k i gtx1070 Nevada jeli tjanet a Normandija tormazit. Govorili popravjat. Prosto pixel density hochetsa krutit vishe i tut uzhe chisto viduha! Jesli Zahochish Novuju Nevadu i Normandiju PD okolo 1.8-2.0 to tut tolko 1080TI, 1080 ne hvatit. Sam sizhu na Kavkaze PD 1.8, Nevada 1.2, Normandija 1.0. No tut nadu skazatj sto 7700k 5.0ghvz i 1070 toze 2.1ghz. taksto dlja VR zhelezo nado TOP. Jesli Pixel Density ne vikruchivatj to hvataet i 1070.

+10000 For example if PD is 2.0 make far contacts 4 pixel in size not 1. THIS will be dream come true high PD + far targets.

+1 i have same conclusion! Looks like 1080Ti only for 2.1 with pixel density higher than 1.0-1.2.

Could you please post your modified version?

8gb 1070 sto ochenj vazno v DCS osobenno 2.1.

This way too good to be just a mod! You should be on the the list in 3rd parties!

Guys take a look at my post https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3153576&postcount=51

So guys as I am struggling with VR performance as you are I found that lowering PD below 1 made an improvment! Maybe 2.1 really needs 2x horspower than 1.5? I mean i lowered PD in NEVADA to 0.8 and saw improvments, i looked at the gpu and asw and my conclusion is that in L-39 quick start mission Camp attack (basicly flat Nevada ground and some 10 units) PD 0.8 is ok (cannot say definetly if asw kicked in) 1.0 is on the edge but 1.2 is already too much for my overclocked 1070! The shortage of gpu power is best seen flying low and looking at the ground down under. This is wierd as small amount of objects is drawn this way only ground quite close but fast! This really needs horse power! Can someone comment this? Is there guys with 1080 and TI and that l-39. Can u please rerun that instant action camp attack mission! Fly around low looking at your wingtip, i am really interested at which PD you start to struggle! Cause in 1.5 i can run as high as 1.7- 1.8 depending on situation;) All above in 2.1 was done with deffered shading - ON!

The problem is that Vr need 90 if less picture is jiddery, it not as in monitor jidderness is not equal in every eye so picture beomes corrupt!

+10000000000000000 Performance in VR even in 1.5 wasn`t good and in 2.0 it wasn`t super as well! Making it worse is utterly BAD! It should be a priority! Please give us sliders to turn off options as far as one green poligon on the ground and one blue in the sky. WE NEED 90fps no less that 45 asw that is not a life saver in any way! I really want to see real world scenario with COMBAT where we can see 90fps. DCS - digital COMBAT simulation. 20 units on the ground, 10 in the sky with radars some hellis and smokes and no way you see 90fps with any super PC. I am no tourist to fly alone. Sry for being so emocional, simply gertting VR all high end gear and still with every update seeing no BIG steps in performance but one step back, then in next update things back to normal, one step then back to normal! WE NEEED ONE step forward in performance department!!!! Even if it costs us visual fidelity! Is it hard to make shadow option for cockpit shadows only? (as an example) Frustration.

I tried turning off game mode! Still no changes in 2.1 performance for me:(

I reallly like the new graphics thx, but please check VR performance indeed cause it is barely tolerable in real world scenario with other units.

Yeah but the fact is performance you`re measuring is in the best scenario. In reality where some units are, helis and planes, you are seeing spitfires jiddering pipper all the time :/

Yeah but VR need 90fps and 45 is like walking with one leg already, asw needs to be a brief performance saver not judder. But grasp for 45 as a start point is a bad idea thing simply isnt as enjoyable. Fingers crossed that devs will sort the fps.

Trimmer is not working in 2.1 without it flying is not possible, anyone has a issue?

I just wonder why in every advertisement, we were told that performance is on par with Nevada, but nobody told that both nevada and normandy will plumit fps in half! Really hope devs will look into this i have to admit new lighting with shadows look awsome just that ve cannot enjoy any of this even on worlds best pc:/ Maybe clouds are making issues with fps gotta look into that today;)

This is very interesting! Can you make a video of that... havent seen any VR Normandy expierience with good framerate. Not a single one with proof of stable fps :noexpression:

I have same issues, performance is bad even with i7 7700k @ 5.05Ghz:( Nearly with all settings low, but thats only halve the problem. That overly manly brightness, that is total overkill! I have to say in VR as much as i love all the gizmos 1.5 is more playable. Of course I hope things will change but I havbe to say Nevada is smooth because there are no objects but with Normany treees everywhere so U look at the wingtip and get that bad jiddering that you hate.

Thx for the info! But in Nevada map Mig-21 had very low framerate issues if flown near other plane, has that been sorted in the normandy and nevada 2.1?

Yep thnx i could made it more readable just was in a hurry with phone. What i meant about locking target far away is: 1. if it goes straight to you use your r3r, but you have to learn timing, best practice is to shoot two of them in pairs with separation, that way the first missile is fired much further than opponents aim9 so he has to go defensive and will not be able to shoot aim9, but the second one is needed, if the first one misses (it should miss as the distance is high and missile will have no power to track target). As well after two fired r3r you will be right in the merge territory so if you got off your both r3r off the load on wings is equal! 2. If locket target still goes low and does low level manouvers or doesnt even bother about your lock - fly towards it from high above look for it by checking radar lock position and your pipper zoom in your view as soon as you see your contact, you have options depending on situation, but usuually you should at this point turn off you radar and track target with youre eyeballs, if you want silent kill go for r60m, if you got r3r left, take your vertical scan lock (beam mode or how you call that radar mode) And really fast lock and launch missile, usually target will not react fast enough to do anything about it. But this has to be done fast! Hope this time it is more readable! And as usually i have last one comment use youre flares before aim9 is launched it will greatly increase chance of missile not hitting you, just ther matter that flares end fast this way, so it depends in what kind of sh*^t you are. And the last last one, if boogey is on your six with guns and you cannot shake it offand you are slow (400-500km/h) already but not superslow (300km/h), pull stick hard, air brakes out and full flaps out just for brief second then, get back to normal and try not to crash or get engine flameout 4 out of 5 times if f-5 was close enough it will go past you, when it does dont rush in getting your pipper on him, youve just gained advantage, keep manouvaring and you will soon be in position for gun fire. This all has to be done in emergency afterburner mode as far as my knowladge goes, with regular afterburner no significant advantage can be gained in rotating with f-5 but that little extra boost give you that extra that can outmanuver f-5, just make shure you are not full on fuel and your missiles are dropped as well as the fuel tank ofcourse. Another tip of the day by me :D

Oh sry for so many posts, but very good training can be done by yourself guys: in download section there is a mission for mig-21 against four f-15, yes FOUR. basicly 4 mig-21 (one of them U and 4 f-15) And it is doable! ok not the first second third.... but on 100 time you will be succesfull and after some time maybe can pull it of on your first time. Have to say ton of fun u will have after your 100 try where you will be able to seee in far distance a smalll oportunitie in theory to maybe if lucky hit that first f-15!

And my biggest respect for those who use som l-39 or hawk or korean planes! I sometimes have hard feelings taking them down cause mig-21 feels like best plane in the world after u try that server with l-39! And as u already know i have another tip! Hit and run with mig-21 u can do it, f-5 nop! And last but not the least protect awacs not your kill ratio;)

I was posting from my phone so sry if text isnt the most easy to read;) I would also like to add that those longer engagements with f-5 is soooo much fun, there is a lot more to succeful mission. Mainly fuel, cause that can save you, next is technic of flying itself preserving speed or loosing it where needed! Use aoa guage while rotating with f5 you have to look at aoa as much as f5. And then another think! Learn to use your straight beam lock mode! Map easy buttons to swap between radar modes! It is very useful even for r60, gives distance and frightens enemies. Even if you have for example r60 lock think twice! Will missle hit!? Is distance right? Maybe build speed and do yoyo? Maybe go low in trees! Do not make yourself a superman if you have lock it is not the mission! Mission is to hit the other guy! Ofcours gun is VERY effective! It is powerful, so any hit basicly takes out f-5 . Learn that thing and fire close! I get even kills with guns r3r and r60 infact! Thats because if r60 is used u have already gone in f-5s territory! Remember r60 is rear aspect but r60m all aspect so take those! I think already i told more than i should! But have to say i still mess things up and i am mad that i know i could win but did mistakes. Knowing what to do and doing are different things! And admire those situatins when guy knows his thing and i loose, but thats the beauty of it you always can win just have to learn! But main rule fly for not killing the other guy but fly more not to be killed! Mig has higher power speed you always have time to back off if done in time! But if you feel like rembo, you loose! Just keep practcing not to get killed by plane itself, fuel shortage, flameouts, stalls and only then f5's! If you land back even with 0 kills good job! And last dont fly further than u should if u reached bulls keep high with 85-90 percent power and keep circling, no need to ho what awcs says! Be smart assasin! Further u go less fuel and less chance getting back fast! But i really would like to swap knowladges on matter, so anybody want pair just gimme message, dont by shy! Mig is very versatile and true multirole, just needs knowladge skill and PATIENCE;)

If someone wants i can tech trick or two in Mig but only if you know stuff around the plane and the f-5 is your problem not mig itself. I learned my stuff very hard way by starting that mig again and again. In simple terms you only win if u use the more advantages aspects of mig. Speed, r3r and radar. It is good enough u just simply have to back off in time if smth in the attack equation iz wrong. Dont rush listen plan. Attack only one plane at a time. If there is a pair dont go there. If you have asimetrical load dont even bother. Fly high and only. Low flying only in retreat for getting home with fireing flares at 1350km/h. Fly high and tip upside down. Check radar for 2-3 seconds. Find target. Look fhere it goes check awacs. If it is straight on tace r3r manage distance it has to be right. Fire as late as possible! If he goes head on flare in case aim9 comes. If target is locked goes without bothering or not straight at u take r60m but keep radar on track guy, than when u see him good turn off let him think u lost lock and fire heatseeker. And the main thing! If u merge drop everithing y can, if fight comes to 400km/h take take off flaps and you can turn him if no speed lost and no red zones cached in aoa. Dont rush! No more than 4 missioes at a time! If you got one guy fast than u bave chances in some more but dont try to take 3-4. Use fuel wise, preserve, be ready to go home with all afterburner. Use brain tactics and strenght of plane. U only can win if u train. I like this stuff anyone wants to fly on same ish level i would like pairs give alot of tactical advantages. I would like to learn and tech be my guest;)

Sry guys could not make it. Who won?