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The single missions included are excellent. I would go as far as claiming they are the best of any module. Would love to see a campaign in the same context.

Many more users of mig29 worldwide, so info not impossible to find. Also If an older version of mig29 is represented and sold from outside the ed shop exposure could be kept to a minimum. Not everything is impossible. Provided the will is there.

Wasn't there a rather extensive discussion regarding the phantom not so long ago?

OMG you used the word balance! Be prepared to suffer the consequences mortal! The dcs gods will be upon you in no time!

Once multicrew is sorted and proven this will come. A matter of when not if.

And you keep attacking the mirage. Constantly over the same handful of bugs. What is your problem? You can always ask for a refund and stop up using it if it so frustrating. The f5 radar is elementary compared to the mirage maybe that has something to do? The viggen can't rearm so I don't give a crap about ins drift. It's your right to point out what you don't like but frankly people can fly and enjoy the mirage the way it is. Despite the very aggressive and vocal minority here that want to convince otherwise based on a few bugs that are actually declared as wip by devs. And no I am not affiliated to Razbam in any way if that's what you imply. Do you make the insinuations about everyone that disagrees with you? Do you also want us to uninstall the module and ask for a refund as well?

You can't have a "finished state" if the base code is missing or incomplete. And building a complete foundation for all the intricacies of military aviation is a huge thing. Everything in dcs is a placeholder or an approximation. Radar behavior, countermeasures, ecm dm are all fc3 level at best. Weather is worst. Fuel and mission planning tools are nonexistent for realistic mission building. Yet people bitch about the weapon selection panel on the mirage. Talk about priorities. All the while ed make ww2 fighters, maps and the f18 but nobody complains.

Razbam have said they are working on things. Fm is being worked on e.g. You can't demand things and bitch to get them now. Razbam are the only team to have a 4 gen fighter out. If there were 3 or 4 and all of them were bug free or nearly bug free I would complain too. But we have 2 trainers years in the making with nothing to show for it and the only complete complex ac is an old d.o.d contract that is being worked on for years so chill. It may not be so easy as you think, or cheap. Also I said multiple times 1.5 is pretty much obsolete. Maybe things are slowing down for a major 2.x release in the near future. Which might include the harrier. Nobody said it would release in 1.5.

We don't know the numbers of happy vs unhappy customers. A very vocal group of guys in a forum means nothing for the whole picture.

You are still missing the point. If base code changes all the time modules based on said code will never be completely finished. 4gen stuff like the mirage will be most affected by changes due to avionics complexity. When the possibility of fixing something to have it messed up again after x amount of time is certain independent developers won't work on anything until base code is stabilized enough. This is a niche market not a blockbuster game with huge amounts of resources. When ed release the new dm, the new missile physics, ground radar, updated ecm and cm we will see big improvements in a brief period of time. Instead however they seem to have spend considerable amount of time to make ww2 a thing leaving more modern stuff behind. Logical though as new content brings cash updates to base code don't. I am not a razbam fanboy but I can see that the economics of the whole situation are bleak. They also need to release new content for income even at the cost of making their previous product feel neglected.

Are you serious? ,The viggens flight model has had some serious issues and the rearm bugs aren't entirely gone, nor is the bk90 mp issue. Release on steam? Get a grip...

Never said ed will fix it for razbam. I said pending updates work on old code stops which is logical.

I agree there are tons of stuff missing. Most of them are ED related others aren't. The dm is a joke. ED can built a decent dm for the a10 but razbam have wrecked the m2000. Many other things are weird too. I believe though that everyone is gearing towards a unified 2.5 release to address many issues such as veao did. I whole heartedly agree with this. I'd rather see dcs 2 updated rather than 1.5 again. That doesn't stop me from enjoying the mirage the way it is now and hope for improvements. As for the harrier I can't say if it's fair or not to have started work without first addressing all of mirages' issues but this is a business and money has to be made. Do I thing the harrier will be wip or beta for a long time. Yes. That won't stop me from buying it either. Do I expect things to break as ed improve base code? Yes, I can live with that, this is a niche market, not a blockbuster game that will see most glitches patched in a couple of months. I still love dcs and the mirage or the equally buggy viggen and will continue to buy stuff in prerelease.

So am I darling, however I have a sense of perspective and can live with the few glitches in the only afm 4th gen fighter we have at a point in time when a major overhaul is coming. And of course everything ed changes will make the module incomplete or buggy again. It's never finished. That's what you're missing.

You are focusing on a tree and missing the forest. If you wanna claim its unfinished fine. I only fly the mirage online as I don't fly the fc3 crap and have never had a problem with it. Do I expect some stuff changed or fixed? Sure. Do I find these things a deal breaker? No

I respected his right and wished him well on his hotas if you read above but usually people need hands on time on a product to label it as unfinished. Not 7 pages of forum posts. Claiming the m2000 is unfinished then what is finished in dcs? Nothing is, most major modules have major bugs except for the a10 which is the oldest. Everything missing with the mirage is not a deal breaker either, especially for someone learning it from start, maybe don't sink as much in details and actually enjoy? If those bugs weren't reported he wouldn't have found them on his own probably so...

Still this is a pretty solid product and not abandoned as the general vibe on this thread would have it be. People might not care about the harrier but I am sure razbam have not abandoned the mirage. I believe waiting instead of demanding temporary bug fixes is a wise move at least at this point with all these updates on the core functionality of the game being worked on by ED. Even other highly polished modules have their lingering FM issues for some time now. Razbam were always open and informative about their work. I am not a fanboy but a happy customer and Still think the mirage is a blast in its current state.

I know all about the harrier. The mirage is quite good now actually and Zeus said the things being worked on will take time to implement not so long ago. Also ED is working on engine upgrades so it is normal things won't get worked on until their upgrades to the game are released. Besides i didn't attack anyone. I spoke my opinion about dismissing someone's work and continuous effort on what is probably the most finished module out there, -sans ED-belsim stuff-, and the only high fidelity 4gen fighter for now. This whole thread is full of bitching about the mirage from people who actually want a different product, more weapons, better avionics etc, and not the 2000c variant we have.

How do you know what resources are utilized on the mirage? Do you have access in razbams office? Your statement sounds dismissive of the developers and the module and frankly I find it uncalled for from someone not invested in their product. Enjoy your hotas. And do look out for a sale. The mirage is a blast to fly and fight in and that comes from a guy who hates fbw in sims.

Are you flying against ai? What planes? If you fly against ai I would suggest stop wasting your time and go online. Regarding the type of planes you fly against, the f5 is at a strong disadvantage against anything more modern in terms of energy so you need to plan your attack well and always have options to escape. Regarding fights with the mig21 online I have found the f5 can maintain tight scissors in the horizontal and briefly in the vertical far better than the mig. It can also outturn the mig but your turns must be calculated and brief. Check your g indication as a crude way of energy wasting. Keep your turns to a minimum and try to regain energy at every opportunity. Remember if the mig turns with you the f5 is better at it. The f5 can handle high AoA turning better than the mig whose engine stalls easily. If the mig uses zoom and boom tactics try to use his poor cockpit visibility against him.

Whatever the price I will buy it. Prerelease bundle. But I want to state I would pay triple the f18 price for the tomcat.

This is partly because ground attack was dominated but the A10/Su25T/KA50 trio which are CAS aircraft designed to loiter over an area and pick vehicle targets. So no real strike missions almost anywhere in multiplayer. Most servers have actually gone as far as placing the target areas behind friendly lines so no one can bother the cas boys something that doesn't make sense at all. Even then there are no targets to attack besides scattered vehicles something the viggen can't do very well. I guess we have to wait for the general mentality to change, the new modules coming out will help in that regard. As far as ships go you are right. There are interesting thing for ships to do I dcs but I haven't seen any real implementations either.... Don't forget that the viggen was meant to be used in less than optimal weather flying very low. It was also equipped with powerful jammers capable to protect the whole flight and countermeasure pods that could saturate whole areas With chaff and flares, both of these cannot function in dcs as they were meant to. In real life the viggen is an interceptors nightmare.

Usually a centerline tank is enough so it transfers quickly. For 30% or less fuel I do an full refuel. I drop everything when near enemies anyway.

I am so anxious to get back in the action I don't refuel. I only mount external tanks and let them slowly fill the internal ones as I get into the action. Then dump them lol

Well don't litter the place. Dump them after you land!:D