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Happy New Year boys! :)

I'm sorry to say that at this point we're of no use. :( The parcel is not lost, neither it is wrongfully withheld or confiscated - it is "in delivery". Hence, we cannot start a regular search/recovery procedure or anything like this. Besides, we are even in a different jurisdiction, with different consumer rights legislation, etc. We're in no control over the mail carriers' operation, and how they switch hands - same as you are in no control when Delta cancels flight, and you are forced to fly with United who you hate as they break guitars. Sorry Don it is an ugly situation but we just have to wait and bear. Or, you can start filing complaints at the involved mail carriers' offices.

Please keep the forum compact I have merged three threads in one to reduce clutter on forum. For tech support please first contact the vendor. _IF_ the vendor ignores the customers' questions, please register at our home forum, and post there - please read the guidelines on how to request tech support first! This way help will come the fastest. Thank you, and I wish your problem gets sorted out soon! :joystick:

Although I can understand and share your concern, we have always appreciated and often relied on help and support from the community. The day we start approving anyone posts will perhaps be the last day of this good and confidential relationship with the community supporters.

We were holding our breath Don just waiting you to do so! :joystick:

CONNECTOR?? The grip connector is left as is, so you will be able to use your grips as before. IS IT WORTH? You decide. No matter how deep an upgrade is, it is an upgrade, not a magical transformation of a GF1 into a GF3. There will be new cams (in addition to, not instead of currently existing ones), new electronics, new dust cover, optionally new casing. This absolutely can give you new experience and some new flexibility. ALL MY GRIPS ARE revA, WHAT TO DO? Grip connector is a doable replacement but a pretty tricky one on the base side, much less so on the grip side. Which translates into something like "if at some point you decide to replace all your bases with newer ones, you will be able to refurbish your grips to match new bases within one Saturday evening - so don't bother to deal with grip connectors till you really have all new bases".

Gunfighter 1 seemed impossible to upgrade... till two days ago. Now it IS!

Fellow Pilots, We promised you joystick desk mounts. We failed to deliver. We neither managed to design, nor to produce desk mounts for joysticks. Instead, we created and produced a UNIVERSAL MODULAR SYSTEM for mounting your gaming devices onto a desk/table top. Lean and muscular. Reliable. Easy to install. Compact to store. What is more, able to expand with multiple optional modules – from cup holder to keyboard arm. We called it UCM STRONGHOLD. Solid like a rock – UNIVERSAL CONTROLLER MOUNT STRONGHOLD The system is made of 6061 construction aluminum alloy. It is the same material that Audi use for their A8 chassis, and VKB for their Gunfighter joysticks. This alloy sports extra-high corrosion resistance which is why it is also widely used in yachting and underwater structures. Needless to say, all parts of the new STRONGHOLD are duly electroplated to preserve exterior as new for years. Thanks to elaborate and meticulous design even the basic set will afford you ease of setup, as well as comfort of use and storage. We offer a UCM-S (S for short) version for sidesticks and throttle controllers, while a UCM-L (longer one) will perfectly hold an extended joystick. The latter can also be made short in case you currently have a sidestick, but are planning to get an extension in future. We release the first STRONGHOLDS with the following options: Telephone/tablet*/compact keyboard holder Full size keyboard holder based on telephone holder Tea/coffee cup holder Beer/liquor glass holder** _______ * Phone and tablet holders are designed with GameGlass in mind. GameGlass designs and sells tablet game sim interfaces. Besides, purchasing a Stronghold from us, you get a discount for their product, and vice versa. Details will follow. ** This is a white lie. There is only one cup holder now, but we keep thinking... We are gaining momentum as we are going on, so our engineers keep creating more and more new modules that will be added to the existing line with no further announcements. So ladies and gentlemen, please meet the Universal Controller Mount Stronghold from VKB. Currently the system provides slots and pre-drilled holes for fixing the following devices: VKB Gladiator VKB Gunfighter ТМ Warthog joystick ТМ Warthog throttle unit RRP (shipment and tax not included): UCM-S standard $99 UCM-L standard $129 Also, to make choosing easier, we made sets for different cockpit configurations and usage modes. Needless to say, a set comes cheaper than the same parts bought separately. It’s no secret how we all dislike reading manuals. Hence, our expert is preparing videotutorials. Please keep your eye on updates! STAY TUNED!

There are no dumb questions. The answer is yes.

Now I am feeling dumb. Anyway it's nearly midnight here, and I won't get any smarter before morning. I'll check it out for you in the morning, OK?

Functionally - no. To the touch - no. Different cable tracing - yes, but who cares, they are hidden from sight.

1 – Remodelled soft silicone dust cover. - Authentic military aircraft looks. - Complete dust and particles protection for the base internals. - Minimized parasitic load in extreme grip positions. New dust cover called for a new joystick upper plate and cover ring. 2 - Enhanced electronics. - Dedicated 32-bit MCU (micro controller unit) for each of X and Y axes. (previous models had one MCU for both X and Y). Such enhancement allows for extra high update rate and data processing speed without having to share the computing resources between different axes. This demands some explanation. In fact, one MCU was already plenty enough. Then why bringing the second one in? The answer is as simple as it is proud: because we can! No one in real life would use all horsepowers and N/ms of torque. Still, the more muscular the car is, the more potential it has for handling unexpected road situations. Using the second MCU means double-turbo-charging the fiery motor of your air- or spacecraft. We want you to be armed for literally everything. See it for yourself: a GF3 + MCGPro + Blackbox makes a lightning-fast network system with 5 - five - agile MCUs in it! E for Efficiency. R for Reliability. P for Power. S for Speed. M for Modularity. Learn the new alphabet with us! 3 - All internal modules are fully digital now. - Taking the number of cables and connectors to their historical minimum: one 3-line, and one 4-line. After all, everyone knows that electronics is all about contacts. Fewer contacts - lower fault rate. You win! 4 - Updated casing for new internals. - An LED on the front side indicates correct functioning of all digital modules. 5 - HOSAS is a new standard brought in by space sims. - The main PCB of the new GF3 sports a jumper. Plugging it in different ways you may alter the identification of the base. In simple words, the BlackBox will now see the difference betwen the left and right hand GFs. This is made to enable plugging more than one GF into the same BlackBox. (this function is in development and will be fully implemented in future through FW updates). Jumper is there for compatibility with future versions of the firm- and hardware. 6 - New cams. - Linear cams for space sims with soft center - Linear cams for space sims with hard center - Revised aviation cams with progressive load with soft center - Revised aviation cams with progressive load with hard center. Moreover, we went on and developed a new technology for making cams. Previous generations of cams were made of steel and had to be chromium-plated for rust protection. New cams are made of special hardened aluminum alloy - extra firm, extra light, extra durable. Moreover, rust-free for eternity. 7 - New springs. - Spring replacement takes seconds! New cams called for new springs. We designed and produced a special spring replacing tool (included in all kits). --> How do I upgrade my current VKB setup? There are different upgrades kits for different Gladiator and Gunfighter models. 1 – Aviation cams kit (soft center cams + hard center cams) 2 – Space cams kit (soft center cams + hard center cams) 3 – Aviation and space cams combo kit (soft center aviation cams + hard center aviation cams + soft center space cams + hard center space cams) Every set includes springs and spring replacement tool. Upgrade kits 1, 2, 3 fit models: GLADIATOR Pro 1, GLADIATOR Pro 2, GUNFIGHTER 1, GUNFIGHTER 2 4 – Dust cover kit (dust cover + upper panel + cover ring) Upgrade kit 4 fits models: GUNFIGHTER 1, GUNFIGHTER 2 5 – Electronics upgrade kit (Y sensor PCB + Cable + Casing with X sensor PCB pre-installed) Upgrade kit 5 fits models: GUNFIGHTER 2 6 – GF1 kit (Combo cams kit + Dust cover kit) 7 – GF2 kit (Combo cams kit + Dust cover kit + Electronics kit) As you see, the new GF is more than a facelift. Much, much more. We put a lot of passion into it. Now it is yours**. ____________ ** Not only this passion is yours, if you hurry up and get yourself one of the first batch bases. An army-style luggage tag will be sent to you as well as a special holiday greeting from VKB!

Now, here’s a real twist on ReAliTy! The MCG & MCGPro twist adapters are finally here!!! We offer 2 versions of the twist adapter, one for the the Gunfighter 1 (rev.A) and one for the Gunfighter 2-3 (rev.B). Available for ordering as soon as next week through your favorite web shop/dealer. HOLD your photon turbines! As you might have heard, a new generation of the famous base, Gunfighter 3, is also coming shortly. In fact, we planning to announce its arrival right after this one – literally a day or two. We’ll have different upgrade kits for Gunfighters 1 and 2 and some of the kits will include the twist adapter. Purchase the upgrade kit at the same time to save on shipping and handling! The standalone adapter kit includes everything you’ll need for your twist installation - a pre-assembled twist adapter - a sensor PCB - an extra soft spring (for those who prefer extra sensitive easy twist) - a handy screwdriver Installation is simple… - Open the grip casing using the screwdriver - Remove the shaft, install the twist in its place - Install the sensor PCB - Assemble the grip - Re-configure the BlackBox (easy business! just tick two boxes) - Start flying No soldering. No hammering. No cutting. No sawing... And we include our intuitive “how-to” video tutorial to walk you through setup! Winter holidays are coming, may they be twisted!

GF3 is going to be on sale before Xmas. Talking development, our devices are in development till a week before being discontinued :D

No. Why would it?? It is a VKB product.

This. F-14. The Grip. Not a rendered image. Real physical thing. --- Reservations open now. In order to produce sufficient units we need to estimate the demand first, so we are inviting you to use Get Notified function on our regional dealer's web pages. Please visit your store and reserve your device! There's no need to pre-pay for it, only to sign up. First to get the new F-14 grip will be the pilots who already have a GunFighter base, so the first batch released to the market will be "grip only". The full joystick setup (grip and base) will follow. --- Remember: if you had already bought a Heatblur F-14 module from Heatblur or DCS web stores, you will have a 10% discount at checkout when it comes to actually paying for the grip. If you are buying the grip first, you will get $10 off at Heatblur's own shop. Attention EU Pilots knowing unavoidable delays due to sea freight vs air mail, our EU dealer offers a premium extra option: 10 euro on the top of the price will bring you the grip by air. No delay, you will get the grip immediately as soon as it is out. Please note, this is merely the cost of express delivery; the grip still costs the same. --- VKB is proudly presenting their latest master piece: the F-14 grip, the most complex grip from our line and the most technologically advanced. We are happy to fly together and share the satisfaction!

GF2 CONNECTOR on GF3 Thank you for supporting us. NO the connector will be the same. We totally understand the feelings of the guys who lived through v1 to v2 transition and although it is impossible to promise anything for years ahead, but we will try to keep this connector in use for as long as possible. So far nothing calls for its replacement, it does its job fine, and we are not planning any modifications to it.

GF3 - Pricing It will surely remain in the same price range - although it may go a few Big Macs up. Improvements as such do not add to the price. However for example there will be an extra set of cams included in the retail kit. What we are talking about here is as I wrote above all within a few hamburgers' price, so worry not. GF3 are no sticks. GF3 are bases. MCG and Kosmosimas are grips. A set of a base and a grip makes a joystick. :)

Guys it is not the matter of PRO version or non-PRO. It is precisely what @aniron said, we have sold out the GF2s (a few may still be available through re-sellers, but we have none in our main storage). But worry not, there is NO DANGER of returning to the old chronical out of stock situation. GF3s are coming before Xmas, so at most there will be a few weeks gap.

Indeed - no update for a long time. However there is nothing to share - we are not making yet another version of a long-established design but trying to create something different. Sharing innovative ideas is suicidal. Sharing computer rendered images - boring. So nothing I can say besides what I have said already: we're on it full steam. When will it come? - when it is ready. Years? - probably, not so long. Weeks? - sure no. It is coming closer by the day, this is the fact!

Thank you for your attention to our project. We are working on it full ahead. There is no, and will be no hurry in such an interesting, challenging, complex project. We are determined to allow it as much time as it will be necessary. We don't consider it a race to be concluded by a certain date, or before some other manufacturer releases a similar product, or whatever. Rather, it is an on-going effort to create The Throttle. As soon as The Throttle is ready to hit the market (in fact, a few weeks ahead of that) we will release an official announcement. Please rest assured we are not wasting time. But neither we will sacrifice an ounce of quality to gain a month of time.

Screenshot vs Coupon, and Accumulated Discount - Only a coupon (coupons) sent to you by Heatblur or DCS are accepted for discount. Both HB and DCS will email the coupons to all buyers who had purchased the modules before the F14 grip hit the market. In case you don't receive such email, ask the vendor, and they will send it to you. Screenshot is not a valid discount document. - Discounts don't accumulate. 10 purchased modules will not get you 1 free grip, but rather 10 grips each for discounted price.

Guys NOT OUR FAULT - we just got a certain number of coupons from Heatblur - and are working on making our shop systems accept their discount codes. They are doing the same with coupons we sent them. It is our first time we launch this joint/mutual discount scheme. Mere technicality. But sorry for that. BTW, discounts are retroactive. If you already bought the module from HB, you are still entitled to a discount for our grip. HB will send you the number via email. If they don't, just write to them and ask.

You might. I am not checking it daily, but last I spoke to our head office (I'm 200 km away, and only go there once a month or so) they were working on the preorders. To be precise, on testing the reciprocal discount system so the coupons issued by VKB would be accepted by Heatblur shop, and vice versa. So no, no one is slowing anything down.