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Exactly, if 1980s MiG-29 9.12 sells well (and Mi-24 did), then some 1980s Soviet aircrafts like Su-25 or Su-27S may be possible in the future. Only time will tell. Russian (Russian Federation) modernizations will never be even remotely possible due to plethora of reasons; Russian policy, stricter every year, classification paranoia, war, close to zero materials available, zero SME willing to share, some ED stuff working and living inside Russia etc.

From 1985 MSIP II modernisation - up to around 2017 the cockpit looked basically the same. Since 2017 after Radar Modernisation Program (RMP) with AN/APG-63v(3) Low Probability of Intercept (LPI) AESA, F-15C started to receive Passive Attack Display (PAD) 10.4-inch XGA sunlight-readable and NVIS-compatible flat panel display with a resolution of 1024 x 768 pixels. Much later then what we will have in DCS. Below: (1) F-15A/C 1974 - 1985. Original analog-digital mix avionics, modern cockpit with HUD and great layout for 1970s when F-15A was considered a superfighter. (2) F-15C MSIP II 1985 - 2017. added Programmable Armament Control Set (PACS), Multi-Purpose Color Display (MPCD), F-15 Advanced Control Stick Grip (ACSG) (3) F-15C Golden Eagle 2017 - 2026 (phasing out F-15C from USAF). added Passive Attack Display (PAD)

PilotMi8 is right, DCS would need ASW enviroment first, something like "Sea Power" or "Sonalyst's Dangerous Waters", to make ASW complex and engaging. And to develop a few ASW platforms to divide the cost and increse the profit like SH-3 Sea King, S-3 Viking, Ka-25/27, IL-38. Someone with naval background would need to step in and cooperate with ED.

Because making F-35 without full documentation already sparks some controversy - and there's a WHOLE LOT of information about the F-35 publicly available, and openness of the producer to share all the non-classified components, logic, workflows, HOTAS, avionics etc., as this is world-wide exported all NATO fighter, with 1100 airframes produced already. At the same time there is close to zero Su-35 information available, everything would be totally made up, its avionics, MFD pages, weapon systems, HOTAS, logic, workflows, functions, everything fictional - it would be a sad joke. Completely fairytale abomination, not better than amateur-made MODs already free to download. What would be even a satisfaction or enjoyment shooting down enemy knowing everything in your Su-35 is completely made up and false?

Ground pounders, interceptors and trainers as double-seaters, because it makes them better (dedicated sensors and weapon operator or navigator at cost of some performance); like Tornado IDS, A-6E, Mi-24P, F-15E, AH-64D, Mosquito, F-4E, C-101, L-39, UH-1, Gazelle, Bo-105, Mi-8, F-14A/B, TF-51, Mirage F.1BE etc. Fighters as single-seaters, beacuse it makes them better (better kinematic performance, acceleration, range, lower drag, better high AoA stability); like F-15C, F-16C, MiG-21, MiG-29, Su-27, Kfir, F-100, F-104, MiG-17, MiG-19, F/A-18, Eurofighter, Mirage F.1C, P-51, Mirage 2000 etc.

It may expand DCS in terms of RCS simulation. Even if only a bit. It would make flying F-35 much more interesting, analyzing enemy radars and chosing proper route to minimize own RCS.

F-35 may expand DCS in terms of RCS simulation. Even if only a bit. And i'm not talking about shape RCS simulation which would be resource demanding. Right now it's just a single number... Making it even a bit more nuanced e.g. 8 or 12 numbers depending on target's aspect + is the intake/compressor visible? + every missle/bomb it carries under the wing=big, semi-recessed pylon = small, weapon bay = zero increase in RCS. Just that, it would be still extremely easy to calculate for the CPU. It would make flying F-35 much more interesting, analyzing enemy radars and chosing proper route to minimize own RCS. --- E.g. F-16 with small size, blended wing/body is notoriously hard to detect from the front if it's a bit lower (intake invisible, covered by the nose) and carries only 2-4 AA missiles even for capable radars. And when the intake is visible, it carries many ordinance, it's being observed from the side - it's much easier to detect. Or F-4/F-14/F-15/EF carrying Sparrow/AMRAAM on fuselage semi-recessed pylons, it has minimal impact on RCS (and drag) - when e.g. Su-27, MiG-29 or F-16, carrying all the weapon hanging under the wings, every missile significantly increases RCS and (drag). When F-35 can mix weapon bay and under the wings, but no semi-recessed. RCS from different direction: And missiles: (1) full wing pylon (e.g. Su-27, F-16, MiG-29) - big RCS increase (2) semi-recessed pylon (eg. EF, F-15, F-4) - small RCS increase (3) weapon bay (e.g. F-35, F-22, J-20) - no RCS increase vs. vs.

It will have AESA. But F-35 AESA is not just a radar detecting air and ground targets at the same time, it's also an RWR, a jammer, an electronic warfare device, a communication datalink with missiles etc. And it can do all this things at once. And dozen of other strictly classified things.

Both should be included: 2005 F-15C which is already announced, to fit Hornet and Viper. And original 1985 F-15C MSIP II to unlock 20 years of F-15C career from 1985 to 2005, late Cold War, Desert Storm, Balkan War etc. When all F-15C scored all air kills. To be useble over Fulda Gap Cold War Gone Hot map, Iraq Desert Storm, to fight against/along all the DCS late Cold War modules like MiG-29. 9.12, Tornado IDS, Tomcat, MiG-21bis, A-6E, A-7E, Su-17, Mirage F.1, Bo-105, Gazelle L, Mi-24P, Kfir etc. Original 1985 MSIP II already has the same cockpit and nearly all the systems like MPCD display, PACS weapon management system, F-15 ASCG grip, AN/ALR-56C RWR, AMRAAM wiring and integration etc. It would just require to disable Link-16, JHMCS and AIM-9X.

Great trailer! Thanks for the light grey fighter Eagle Please include also original 1985 F-15C MSIP II from late Cold War, Desert Storm and Balkan War - as additional variant or an option in editor. It will unlock additional 20 years of F-15C career from 1985 to 2005. And it will be usefull over Fulda Gap map, Iraq Desert Storm, and it will be a counterpart for all late Cold War modules like MiG-29 9.12, Tornado IDS, Tomcat, Su-17, MiG-21bis, A-6, A-7, Bo-105, Mi-24P, Mirage F.1, Kfir etc. Cockpits are identical, just lacked a few addons like Link-16, JHMCS, AIM-9X integration. cheers

That's true, it would be great if F-15C would also take part in combat over Fulda Gap and Desert Storm:

Thanks for the light grey fighter Eagle! I've seen in FAQ the F-15C will be mid-2000s MSIP II covering 2005+ timeframe. Please make also late Cold War/Desert Storm original 1985-2004 MISP II - either as separate variant or at least as selectable tick in editor - removing Link-16, JHMCS, GPS-nav, AIM-9X, few APG-63v(1) functions. To fit Iraq map Desert Storm and Fulda Gap divided Germany map as we already have all the proper era enviromet, and AI air/ground/sea assets from late Cold War. And both sides, NATO and Soviets/WarPac flayable modules. And as it was the most important part of F-15C career. To be a counterpart for 1980s MiG-29 9.12 Fulcrum and all other late Cold War DCS modules like Tornado IDS, A-6 Intruder, A-7 Corsair, Su-17M, MiG-21bis, Mirage F.1, F-14 Tomcat, Mi-24 Hind, Gazelle L, Viggen, Bo-105, Kfir, L-39, FC3 Su-27S, A-10A, Su-25A etc. Already in 1985 F-15C MSIP II received Programmable Armament Control Set (PACS), Multi-Purpose Color Display (MPCD), AN-ALR-56C RWR, AN/ALE-45 Chaff/Flare Dispenser, TWS radar mode, Non-Cooperative Target Recognition (NCTR), AIM-120 integration and wiring, new F-15 Advanced Control Stick Grip (ACSG) etc., cockpit already looks the same as mid-2000s, so adding this variant would be relatively easy, just removing few newer things. And it would significantly improve the value of the whole module, adding 2 decades (!) of real life scenarios and F-15C service to play with, from 1985 late Cold War, through 1991 Gulf War, 1994 Balkan War, 1999 Allied Force up to early 2000s. cheers!

AIM-120 was during final evaluation between 1988-1991, USAF didn't use it in combat during Desert Storm, even though they sent them to Iraq. But it doen't matter - it would use AIM-120 or not per mission/campaign creator choice. What matters is Link-16, JHMCS, APG-63v(1) as those may or may not be possible to disable by mission creator to make it suitable for late Cold War/Desert Storm.

I hope they make both variants; original MISPII from late 1980s/Desert Storm, given the plethora of late cold war modules including MiG-29 9.12, Tornado IDS, F-14, A-6, A-7, Su-17, Mi-24 and many more. And maps like Iraq for 1991 Desert Storm and late Cold War Fulda Gap. When the Eagle was the ultimete apex predator. and mid-2000s more modern variant (if sufficiently declassified) F-15C with Link-16, JHMCS etc. to fit our Hornet and Viper. But if only one would be possible i would obvioulsy prefer originial 1980s/Desert Storm MSIP II.

Not really - current modules like Hornet, Viper, Apache etc. are in big part declassified, with manuals in public, hundreds of real life pilots verifying many things. They were too moden, but acceptably realistic.

F-35 with publicly available information only, will be difficult to model with such limited data. Su-30 has even way LESS publicly available information about its avionics, sensors, weapon systems and workflows then the F-35 and it would be just WT/MOD level abomination.

I absolutely love the full fidelity F-15C, but when it comes to the F-35 so many questions come to mind: No DCS module used AESA radar before No DCS module used stealth before Real F-35 avionics alghoritms, EW, sensors integration, weapon systems, radar modes, all the software etc. has probably more lines of code then whole DCS (!) - how to code such thing, even assuming access to full documentation? It's cutting edge technology and one of NATO's trum cards just barely starting to enter service - let's be honest, it's just strictly classified... Maybe ED has received contract from the military, as 1100 F-35 has already been produced, to make a training tool for the USAF/NATO and they came to conclusion they can make it to the commercial public DCS is some shape or form? Or maybe it's better to wait for ED's take on the F-35 before speculating too much.

Thanks ED! Many have been waiting for this classic for a long time. I hope they make both variants; original MISPII from late 1980s/Desert Storm, given the plethora of late cold war modules including MiG-29 9.12, Tornado IDS, F-14, A-6, A-7, Su-17, Mi-24 and many more. And maps like Iraq for 1991 Desert Storm and late Cold War Fulda Gap. When the Eagle was the ultimete apex predator. And mid-2000s more modern variant (if sufficiently declassified) F-15C with Link-16, JHMCS etc. to fit our Hornet, Viper etc. Personally i'm hyped. What do you thing about the light-grey fighter Eagle?

It's on a final.

During Cold War REFORGER for USAF in high-alert scenarios it was 2-3 minutes for tactical aircrafts. Able Archer 1983 it was 2-3 minutes for tactical aircrafts as well.

Together with Dynamic Campaign i expect "Repair" to dissapear completely as it's grotesquely unrealistic. You either takeoff in you slightly damaged airframe again, if you are forced to and the damage is minor - or you jump in a new airframe available. Not wait some magical ~100 or so seconds (!) for the ground crew to replace your wing, one engine, a canopy, plus patch few dozens of holes in your fuselage... It's world of warplanes/WT-esque nonsense. There is a separate "godlike" mode like infinite ammo, no damage, unlimited fuel, instant repairs etc. sometimes usefull for training or just playing aroung for fun. For Dynamin Campaign damaging the enemy, not only shooting down, will be very important mechanics with realistic reasonable repair times like in all simulators of old which had Dynamic Campaigns.

Our "relatively modern" DCS modules like Hornet, Viper, Apache, Chinook etc. are modeled as 20 years old ~2005-2007 year standard. Why should ED make future map when we will never have any enviroment supporting such timefram? And even if someone would make year 2025 Patriot or S-400 or F-35 or Su-35 - it would be a totally unrealistic fiction, lacking 90% of real life capabilities. Most of DCS maps are already too modern timeframe-mismatch with DCS flayable modules and AI assets. E.g. 2008 Russia-Georgia War map, with U.S. contingent protecting Georgia, would be perfect for our most modern Hornet, Viper, Apache, Chinook modules.

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True. When it comes to number produced: MiG-21F-13 - fourth most produced variant, relevant in the same wars as PFM, Vietnam War, Six-Day War, War of Attrition, Indo-Pakistani Wars, Yom Kippur War. By far the lightest and the most maneuverable MiG-21 variant, good visibility bubble canopy, internal guns, entered service 1960 F-13 didn't lag far behind the best light fighters of the era like F-104, Mirage III, J-35 Draken. No radar, just radio rangefinder. MiG-21PF - third most produced, not as relevant as -PFM though stil used in many wars, introduced in 1961, it didn't have internal gun or gunpod. First with radar. MiG-21PFM - secund most produced, the most relevant in real conflicts including Vietnam, Six-Day War, War of Attrition, Yom Kippur War, Indo-Pakistani Wars, Iraq-Iran War and many more. No gun, just a gunpod like F-4D. Still a potent fighter when entered service in 1964. MiG-21bis - the most produced, relevant in Soviet-Afgan War, Iraq-Iran War, Angola Civil War, Ethiopia-Somali War, Gulf War, Yugoslav War, Libya-Chad War. Already a bit outdated when introduced in 1972. Though number of specific variant produced differ from source to source, plus license production in different countries etc.