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They come from flight manual which only lists referring missile launch from Nike Hercules, and warnings about overspill from radar. If western RWR can detect Sparrow launch, the SPO-15 with automatic setting should also!

I’m aware KOLS with radar ranging wouldn’t show IFF. But after you press lock a second time and it transitions to STT radar leading? Under interaction mode…. I was also trying to figure out what this highlighted passage says

You are correct. The other manual is a translation of the Yugoslavian L-18 manual, so includes chapters on combat use that GAF lacks.

There are two things that keep me up at night about SPO-15 Let’s tell ED what we think! Most important, there are warning in manual and some pilot reports that radar can POSSIBLY overspill to RWR. But the manual doesn’t say it will happen only a warning that it might, and I have talked to pilots who said that they did not experience this. So it seems to me this is down to sync circuits being off, and possibly needing replacement or maintenance. Therefore, it should not be modeled as default this way in DCS MiG-29. second, there is supposition that it may not detect Fox 1 launch by F-14/15/18. The manual mentions being able to know when Nike Hercules has launched on it by its datalink signals, so that is the only one that can be confirmed. Some say F-14/15/18 don’t change illumination when firing Sparrow. But I was reading APG-65 manual the other day and there were lots of references to “PDI ( pulse Doppler illumination)” needing to be injected to both tune and guide the Sparrow. I am assuming perhaps that we may not be able to see Fox 1 launch on the “stock” ME setting but see it on the automatic one with the assumption that the details of this PDI have been loaded into it. But really, haven’t redfor suffered enough? Not even SPO-10 has RF overspill! The radar is only on 25% of the time! That should be no issue for sync circuits! Redfor has suffered and suffered. I would much prefer there were atleast options available for us to not have a RWR that can’t be used with radar or will not see Fox 1 launch (forcing us to rely on the estimated missile tag, that assumes they have fired on us at 3 bars signal strength and shows an approximate missile closure from that point, however useful that might be for longer range fox 3 shots). Interested if anyone has anything to add. And to show ED how much having a RWR that sees its own radar and can’t see missile launch would be ill received from a large portion of the player base expecting something that atleast does its job however imprecise! Su-27 manual also mentions possible interference from radar, but in addition to saying “POSSIBLE,” also says it can be solved by turning radar off and back on. I would be fine if this happens say every 10th radar cycle. But every time????

The one published by NATO

The whole Amazon manual thing is just plausible deniability. Those two manuals are not enough to make a module. They are using every source they can, but saying they are using Amazon manuals to not receive un welcome attention from the government and accusations of using sensitive information. ED since being founded has no doubt accumulated a vast wealth of MiG-29 information from all over the place. But with recent developments of course they have to be careful when making a plane certain countries still use in active service or used until recently. They also don’t really read the forums. That’s for community managers and for them to pass on any info. Especially the English forums. And with MiG-29 team busy, community managers aren’t going to get every question answered with unfettered access.

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I mean there’s only two manuals on Amazon. Both are decently priced. I bought both of them. They complement each other nicely becuase one is non combat systems and the other handles combat. Just buy both

Pre designation gives you correction for either wind or target movement. You do this by holding lock button, putting reticule on target, and releasing lock button. After 2 seconds The correction will have been computed once you place the reticule on the target a second time. It is better then say MiG-23, where it is required to keep reticule exactly on target for a few seconds. After releasing lock button laser ranges and builds mathematical model of where target should be if stationary/no wind in comparison to your speed height and movement. After two seconds the FCS assumes your reticule is on target and produces correction for that position. So when you place reticule a second time and fire, the proper movement/wind correction is calculated. One thing with this is that the calculation only lasts around 8-10 seconds, then you will need to do it again, and is only for that specific target. A stationary target in no wind requires no correction so no pre designate needed. Hmmm? Any MiG-21 with RP-21 radar could guide the missile. It was designed entirely for MiG-21. I think you will find the normal weapon aiming mode very precise. It will be very precise for bombs and gun, rockets will be more precise the faster you are.

And part of pressurization system no doubt

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IRL IRST range is 15 km detection 12 km track for head on Mil MiG-21. Add planes with bigger heat signatures, in rear aspects using possibly afterburner, and no surprised to detect 30-40 km away. Being able to range them though will be limited by MPRF detection though which would be 18-40 km depending on altitude, background, RCS, etc

Well, I don’t think it would need “nerfing.” The range of the radar in FC3 is pretty much spot on. There are differences that will make it harder to use in FF though, just becuase it is realistically modeled. For example. Loco will no longer be instant but take 1-2 seconds at least. If you lock within max missile range, it will take the R-27R/ER 4 seconds to get ready before it can be fired(just like sparrow, but this process is done early in some situations). You will have less HUD symbology ( to focus on killing!). And radar/IRST won’t pick up each others lost locks unless coop is turned on which locks radar to MPRF. IRST won’t instantly range at all ranges, but the laser will be limited to 6.5 km requiring radar range beyond. So it will be a little harder to use, some things will take longer, but I expect it good users to still make a killing using its speed and altitude to throw the R-27R far and fast. If all you care about is competitiveness and beating someone, maybe not. But for me I expect to get a lot of joy from working the systems, and thus even more satisfaction from making kills. It will have an advantage in air to ground and gun modes though. AG it can calculate wind and movement for any weapon. And for gun mode, you have an alternate mode that allows you to lead a target up to 12 degrees. Whereas right now in FC3, the mode we have limits us to 6 degrees lead.

Yes I was confusing the main modes for interaction sub mode at first. This quote you attach, is it for interaction on or off? The above passage stated when selecting R-27R in the interaction mode upon radar locking, page 71 " In this case. the SEl system displays the information of the RLPK complex in the target tracking mode, implemented by the NO19" And in the case that both systems fully track “2. If the KOLS station was the first to switch to the target tracking mode, but the RLPK complex accompanies the target not only by angular coordinates. but also by range and approach speed, the leading complex is the RLPK complex and the controlling on-board computer is the S-31 BCVM. The SEl system operates in the target tracking mode according to the RLPK complex data,” I wouldve thought if such a case did happen, it would show IFF as SEI show radar display. Same for the case described in many manuals where with interaction on, in TP strobe, if the lock button is pressed before the appearance of the laser range it will transition to full radar lock, and when laser range would appear it would transition to radar lock anyways. I would assume it would show radar lock in such a case as the manuals say it transitions to leading RLPK, but I guess it can’t be helped if not if this it’s the way things are and SUV in RL is required for IFF circuit even if HUD displays radar. Would love word from ED how they intend to model the system.

Yes I am only going off the MiG-29B technical manual (interaction/cooperation section) that ED has used before in the past and is sure to use this time. I have seen it wrong before, in regards to HMS stages of symbology. But oddly a university PowerPoint that details the radar says a similar thing about interaction/cooperation mode. For example it states that if flying with TP vertical scan, OPT, Helm, with interaction/cooperation on, once you get a lock and radar locks on additionally it will switch to radar HUD view. Such that using coop with those modes is enough for IFF. It also goes into logic with coop switch that if radar is not used for ranging quasi scan, it will STT