Same here :thumbup: I'm waiting for reviews on the Vipril and waiting for a VKB Gunfighter offering with the new grip installed .....there is that Vipril option to mount a Warthog grip and just get the base, it's to bad VKB stopped offering just the base ....Decisions ,Decisions ......might be awhile till' all the dust settles and we see how it all plays out ....Till then my Warthog HOTAS with a 4" extension and VKB pedals will have to do .....and that's not a bad thing. :D