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50ppd has wider field of view.

With today’s update supporting the newest DLSS (4) do we need to mess around in nvidia profile inspector anymore? I do not have nvidia app installed. Also I am not on the newest nvidia driver with my RTX 4090 card.

Calvin’s reply was for the Crystal Super running in high resolution and in TAA. That means rendering in crazy high resolution for each eye. Using DLSS 4 or lowering the resolution just a bit should get you over 72 fps. And then you can run the headset at 72 fps and get it smooth. Even with lowering the rendering resolution on the Crystal super a bit you would still enjoy the fantastic pixel density of the Crystal Super and the great field of view. I can’t stand jittery and stutters in VR either.

Avoid using SteamVR for OpenXR. You fix that by choosing the right option in the Pimax Play App. You will figure that one out by checking the option inside Pimax Play.

Thanks. I think I saw that some got wrong IPD on a recent VR YouTube event and had to manually adjust it. But I think it’s strange that a major selling point like Eye Tracking is *not* on the spec list on a web shop that is selling the headset. That is why I wonder if they are selling a different version too.

Thanks Are you working at Pimax? The web site I plan to order from actually announce it with manually adjustable IPD. I found that strange. I really need to make sure about the eye tracking because running 6240x6280 without eye tracking/quad views… I know about the 57 ppd later. I rather have the wider FOV anyway. So 50 will do just fine.

Thanks. I have a question before eventually ordering - are there different models of the 50ppd Qled Crystal Super? I can not order directly from your Chinese web shop, but can order from a Norwegian retailer. On their website there is no mention of the Crystal Super headset having eye tracking. Actuality on their site it says “manually adjustable IPD”. Do all Crystal Super have eye tracking?

Not sure what to think after watching these reviews. Mura seems really bad after watching MRTV review. It´s even in a kind of a horizontal pattern, according to Sebastian at MRTV. Other reviews mention visible mura as well. For this amount of money I find that disappointing. Hard to see Mura I could tolerate, but it seems to be more than that. Chromatic aberration- my Pimax Crystal has a fair deal of it. But my Pimax Crystal Light not so much. Yeah, I have both I forget it when playing. But if it is more than my Crystal OG, then I am not so sure.

Thanks But like I said in my last post I have the same problem when no other connections are in the USB ports.

Thanks for your input! I have read it now, it does not help me. I have the same problem when no other connections are in the USB ports. And funnily, My OG Crystal has no problems, only my Crystal Light.

Thanks for your input Calvin. It does not help to move the headset around to help with the Not Tracked/Sensors can´t track headset issue. It seems kinda related to the USB 3.0 issue because when I click the "Learn More" which is just beside the "Sensors can´t track headset" warning it, the "Please re-plug the USB 3.0 and make sure the USB is plugged into the USB3.0 port of the computer" comes back up... See picture for what I am clicking which gives the USB3.0 re-plug warning. I got the Crystal Light to work 3 times as it should, no idea what I did. Used the same USB port. One time I re-installed graphic drivers. Next time it worked. (I did not have any problems with that driver and it was clean installed just 3 days ago, but I tried it in desperation). But after re-booting my PC the same issue came back. The other time it worked, i re-installed latest Pimax Play. So I was happy, I tried the headset in DCS. Good as ever. So I exited DCS, and since I had no problem at the time I started the Firmware update to 1.0.14 since Pimax Play asked me to do it. The text said the firmware was fixing some issues, so I hoped these would fix mine. Anyway, the firmware got to 16% and the it said it lost the contact with the headset, please re-plug, try again.. so I did - go to 16% again and same thing happened. So then I aborted the firmware update. I do not think the headset is bricked by this, because I a third time got to make it work again. No idea what I did right that time either. After a reboot the connection issue was there and not tracking. This is very strange. So I am still on latest Pimax Play and firmware 1.0.11 for the Crystal Light. I can at all times hear sound from the Crystal Light speakers by the way. And the panels is not totally dark, just very dark grey. But no star background like it should have. My other Pimax Crystal (yup I got two, one orginal and one Light . ) - the original with eye tracking works as it should. Connects just fine. Tracking and even eyetracking on that one works fine it. I use the same USB 3 port for that one. So.. Not sure what is going with my Crystal Light.

I have had my Pimax Crystal Light since the end of November. No troubles, no connection issues. Just turn on the PC and Play DCS or whatever in VR. Been so happy, no issues like I see so many others have had. Today though, out of the blue, no changes on my PC or Windows since last time.. My headset won´t work. It turns on, I can see the backlight in it, but it´s dark grey. The little power indicator on top of the headset is green. And Pimax Play shows what you can see in the picture below. And of course I have tried plugging it in and out. I have used the same USB 3 port since I got it. But I have tried many times, and now also into all my different USB 3 ports. I have also unplugged all my other USB devices, reinstalled latest Pimax Play and so on... Any ideas? I have checked my USB ports so that they don´t turn off power for power saving and such. But really - no reason it should be the problem because ... I didn´t do anything new today. So... About my system: PC: I9 13900K Asus Rog-strix z790f gaming wifi motherboard, latest Bios and drivers. Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC 32 GB RAM@6000Mhz Windows 11 Home 23H2 Pimax Play latest version, installed through the app itself first, the reinstalled by downloading from Pimax Website. Crystal Light Firmware 1.0.11 , Pimax Play asks me to do firmware update to 1.0.14, but if there´s connection issues I am not sure that is a good idea.

Ok, thank you all! I have just now placed my order for the Moza base, and hopefully will have mine setup next week. The base will arrive this week I guess, from a Norwegian retailer. But I need a special mount for my Next Level Racing Flight Simulator cockpit so that I can get it low enough in my cockpit - which I luckily found on Etsy.com Seems like can get it low enough with that mount, not for 20cm extension I think. But maybe 5 or 7.5cm which I also have. Or use it without if needed.

Hi, I am considering buying a Moza AB9 FFB base and use that with a Thrustmaster grip or a Virpil grip. Now I have VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Base + 20cm extension + Thrustmaster F18 grip. And I really like the feel of the big throw of the stick itself and also the precision I get from that setup. For me it´s more immersive with a bigger throw than the smaller one you get when using the base witout any extension. Because the Moza base is so tall I don´t think I will be able to use an extension, at least not the 20cm one. Have any of you gone from a Virpil setup with an extension to using just the Moza base? Do you feel like you are missing out on something by not using an extension?

Render quality for me must be set to high. Or else distant details are not very clear. I might as well used my Pico4 or Quest 3 then... I have 13900 + 4090. No problems with stutter either. Feel sorry for those who have that problem, but it's been a long time since I had that. Probably back in my Reverb G2 days Meaning a couple of years I think.

Maybe. I have not checked it. I would not do it anyway The light is for me so much more comfortable, and I can use it for hours and hours without thinking about the batteries.

Nice. The original Crystal and Crystal light uses different methods for tracking as far as I know, so I guess that is one reason there is no update for the original Crystal. I will update my Pimax play and my Crystal Light later today. I got an original Crystal too, but it’s collecting a bit of dust these days even if it has eye tracking. The light is much more comfortable and the batteries are annoying. Edit: also the lenses on my Crystal Light are noticeably better than on my eye tracking Crystal.

When you update to the new Pimax Play software then a new firmware will become available for downloading That’s the way I understand it. Pimax Play I. New Features and Optimizations: - Offline Access: PimaxPlay now supports "offline access without login." This means you can access the client and use basic VR functions even without an internet connection. II. Bug Fixes: 1. General: - Language Synchronization: The PimaxPlay payment window language will now automatically switch according to the client language. - OTA Update: Fixed an issue where clicking "install" during OTA updates would not respond. - OpenXR Rendering: Optimized some rendering issues in OpenXR. - Optimized the local dimming algorithm and reduced the halo effect. 2. Crystal Light: - Passthrough Image: Optimized the passthrough image quality. - Tracking Calculation: Reduced tracking algorithm calculation time, decreasing abnormal latency. - Improved Controller Algorithm: Reduced controller input latency. III. Firmware Update: 1. Crystal Light Firmware 1.0.14: - Fixed several known issues. IV. Rollout: - This update will be gradually rolled out to all users over the next two weeks. Update time: Dec 29, 2025

Pimax Store Pimax needs to look for a new after sales support center. Once they find one, shipping to these missing countries will be addressed again. Which kinda makes sense. But they already have partnership with the online store PROSHOP.NO in Norway that sells their VR headset, but not their accessories. So I can buy their expensive headset in Norway from their partner here, but they can’t ship me a single frigging head strap because of lack of after sales support senter…. Oh well. I already have two expensive headsets from them seemingly now without any after sales support? They partnered up with a Norwegian web shop to sell them. This doesn’t make much sense to me. Calvin himself confirmed in chat with me here that PROSHOP.no indeed was a partner with Pimax.

Ok. What I found strange was that they sold to Norway before. And they actually have established a partnership with a Norwegian web store that sells their Crystal and Crystal Light headsets, but they don’t sell accessories. And I can’t pre order the coming Crystal Super there either. To customer supports credit they did actually give me a more proper answer later. So, that is an improvement. But, I would still like to order accessories from them and I might even preorder Crystal Super. Or wait. Anyway, my outburst about not receiving a proper answer is not valid anymore. I just don’t like it

Last year I bought a Pimax Crystal, with headtracking and everything. Very expensive. But it was sent from the Pimax store in China to Norway where I live. Today I wanted to buy a DMAS headphones and comfort headstrap for a Crystal Light that I also have bought. But, it is now impossible to choose Norway as country when ordering. I sent a complaint through chat on the Pimax webpage. Here´s how the chat went : ME: When ordering an item, and when I get to the shopping cart and click check out, I can not choose Norway as delivery region/country. I have an account in Pimax and have ordered from you before with no problem. But this time I can not choose Norway as a country of delivery. It is not on the drop down list of countries/regions. PIMAX: Hi,yes. The shipping region has been updated 13:43 Norway is not on the list 13:44 Yeah, Norway is not on the list... I already know that, and that is why told the, So.. plain and simple. No explanation? No way to fix this?? I can of course see that Norway is not on the list. That is why I wrote to Pimax. Yuck. Calvin! I want to buy DMAS headphones to my Crystal Light, I want to buy top comfort headstrap.. but no.. This is just silly. No reason to remove Norway. And what about my account? I can actually pay for things with my Visa it seems. So Pimax can get my money. But I can not choose Norway as country/region of delivery.

Ok, so you have not had it for so long then, but I understand your frustration. I´ve been into VR since 2017, and even then it took me some time to get best out of Pimax Crystal. I have had the original Pimax Crystal with eyetracking since september 2023 and got a Crystal Light on wednesday this week in addition. So now I got both. Hopefully, we can help you getting a good result with your Crystal Light. About Quadviews, I think many of us using Quadviews here have been using it for some time, from before it was a part of Pimax Play. And then the OpenXR support for the headset itself was also controlled from an external app. And back then there were very thourough and detailed instructions on how to install Quadviews on your PC and how to set up corretly. It was a separate thing from Pimax Play... and yep.. anway - if you didn´t follow those long instructions exactly it wouldn´t work. And some people of course then didn´t think it did much. But it does when set up correctly. For you (and other new users) there´s a new situation. OpenXR support is directly controlled in the Pimax Play app, and you can also choose to activate Quadviews in Pimax Play. That sounds like a good thing, right? Only thing is, there is very little control over how YOU want to use Quadviews in Pimax Play. Back when we did this in an external installation we controlled it with either editing and long config file with lots of values, or using an external app that changed all those values for us. You could adjust a lot things which we now don´t have any control over in Pimax Play. I know this is not helping you much. I have not had time to test the implementation of Quadviews in Pimax Play yet. I just recently upgraded my Pimax Play to that version which implements and controls Quadviews. But it seems very limited in its settings for quadviews, but we can hope this will get improved. As to why you don´t see any difference, I don´t know. If it is working you are supposed to get better frames per second in the game. And yes, as I understand it, the Crystal Light should support Quadviews, but since Crystal Light does not have eye tracking, the degradation of the image quality will be visible on the outer areas of your image. And the more aggresive settings you are using to push up your frame rate, the more visible the degradation will be and covering a larger area too. For units with eye tracking, you can be really aggressive with the Quadview settings (which again, the Pimax Play version of Quadviews implementation really don´t give all that control over) without seeing the degradation of the image clarity simply because your eyes are not looking at it, t- he high quality area of the image follows your eyes. Of course, if you go nuts with your settings (which we could do earlier when it was outside of Pimax Play) then you would start seeing the degradation on the outer areas even with eye tracking. But, it is amazing how much you can reduce outer area quality without seeing it, and gaining lots for fps. That´s why we love it, and that is why I hope Pimax wil upgrade their Pimax Play app to let us have more control of Quadviews settings, so we can dial it in correctly for our own eyes. I think people can have very different tolerances for what is both acceptable and what they simply don´t see. This long answer didn´t help you anything. I guess.. Oh, another thing - the Game itself must support Quadviews or else it doesn´t work! I only know of DCS and Pavlov that support Quadviews. And you need to actually be inside DCS flying to see the effect. Microsoft Flightsimulator and most other games out there does not. support it. Some people doesn´t know this and complain it doesn´t work in their games. It is simply because their game doesn´t support it. Recently an important to the community and well known VR Flightsim youtuber, who mostly fly Microsoft Flightsimulator, did a VR "best settings" video for the new Microsoft Flightsimulator 2024, and suggested turning on Quadviews in Pimax Play, but he didn´t think it gave so many more fps.... no <profanity> Sherlock... Microsoft Flightsimulator 2020 and 2024 doesn´t support or use quadviews so it gave zero effect Keep on experimenting... It should be playable with reasonable framerates and fluidity with the Pimax Crystal and still give you a clear image. I have yet to Play DCS since I updated Pimax Play to the version that controls Quadviews, so I don´t know how well it works now. I have been busy with MSFS2020...ehhhm.. soryy. Hopefully, sometime during the weekend it will test DCS again. Maybe I can get some ideas. My suggestion is still to stick with 72hz/fps mode in Pimax Play. It is easer to reach and therefore keep the game smooth. 72hz smooth is better than 90hz and stuttering because your system never reach 90fps. Do not use 90hz upscale mode. Then you render the image in 2160x2160 per eye it becomes upscaled - which degrades the image too much in your case. It is for those with lower end graphic cards. The full render resolution of the Crystal and Crystal Light actually is 4300x5100 ish.. per eye. You can choose in Pimax Play to lower the resolution, to .85 or something and experiment from there. That is way higher than 90hz upscale. But still lessens the effort for your systems and gives you a bette balance of image clarity and fps. So play around with that slider a bit. I think you have to restart DCS for everytime you change it though.

How long time have you had your Crystal Light? With a 4090 and a decent CPU this will for sure work out with the Crystal Light. Be patient.

Ok guys, here´s a short first impression of my Pimax Crystal Light that I got today. I ordered on Saturday from a Norwegian webstore and it was in my hands already today, Wednesday. Ok, so you know where I am coming from. I already own a Pimax Crystal (the original, with batteries, eye tracking and DMAS headphones) and have been using it for... 14 months or so I think. I have been very happy with it! My only big issue has been the batteries. Also, it is a bit heavy and wobbly. So, why order a Crystal Light? Well, I wanted something less heavy and wobbly, and with no batteries. I am missing out on the eye tracking and therefore also how good DCS can look with Quadviews and eyetracking running... Most games don´t support Quadviews, and in MSFS 2020 and 2024, I have tried with eyetracking, foveated rendering through OpenXR Toolkit and all kinds of combinations ... with my setup in those two flight simulators - I gain at the most 6 fps. Usually between 3-5. For those games, I can easly adjust others settings just a tiny bit down and get those FPS back if needed. Now, on to my first impression. First the good news... Oh my oh my! I think I just won in the Pimax lottery when it comes to visuals! No offence Calvin and Pimax, but there have been a few people complaining about the lenses. My lenses look really good. That is my first impression... they look by a noticeble margin better than the lenses in my original Pimax Crystal! My original Crystal has a fair bit of chrommatic abberation, meaning sharp edges has some color fringing along/around them. This reduces clarity of course, and once you notice it, it is a bit.. irritating. My original Crystal was still the sharpest headset I have used (until now) so I stayed with it because I knew it would take some to replace the lenses, and I could also risk getting even worse lenses or headset. Also, after I while, for most of the time I didn´t think about it and enjoyed my headset. That was until today - and here´s the bad news... when I saw how good my new Pimax Light lenses were then I realized how "bad" my orginal Crystal lenses were. When I sit in a plane and look down on a runway, on the thick white marking lines that goes down the runway, with my old original Pimax Crystal, there´s color fringing along the edges of the lines. Even on the center line. Easy to see, but I forgotten about it for a long time like I said. But now when I see those lines are just pure white all the way like they should, also along the edges, on my new Crystal Light...I will be hard to unsee it on my old vanilla Crystal. Why the bad news? Well, because my plan is to keep my old eye tracking Crystal and use it for DCS because of Quadviews/eye tracking. And to use new Crystal Light for everything else. I will probably still stick to this plan. So it´s a luxury problem really. I am really happy my new Crystal Light is so sharp and without chromattic abberation! Ok, when I opened the box with the Crystal light box I noticed that only the left lens had the thin plastic lens protector film over it. The right lens did not have that. I found it eventually on the bottom of the box. Luckily I could not see any scratches on the lens. Setting up the Crystal Light was very easy for me since I already have the latest Pimax Play version installed, and I am very familiar with the Pimax Play app. I plugged everything in, and updated the firmware. The sound quality was far from what I get from the DMAS I have on my original Crystal, but that was expected. I will find a solution for that. Another thing - it seemed like the local dimming - or the panels themselves, were better. That is surprising, it is supposed to be the same panels, right? The Crystal and the Crystal Light? I have edited the profile.json file (or whatever it is called) for my original Crystal to get the blackest nights I can when flying. But this Crystal Light, out of the box is better. No idea why. Maybe the lenses come into play again? Not sure how, but maybe good lenses give less light bouncing around reducing contrast.. The Crystal Light is way more comfortable to wear than my orginal Crystal. And less wobbly, just like I hoped for. And I am so happy that it doesn´t use batteries. I ordered the version without hand controllers so no I have no idea how the controller tracking is. Head tracking seems good so far. Cant´t say I have noticed any errors. So, for now, very happy with my new headset. I have only used for a couple of hours. But it seems really good so far!!

With that PC, try set render quality High in Pimax Play and 72hz. 90 hz upscale isn’t that using a very low resolution and upscale it? Not sure how 90hz upscale works exactly.. And then using in addition low resolution of 0.75 render quality makes it worse again? It might be that you are feeding a low quality image? I got a Crystal and Quadviews works fine. Hud and mfd, tgp are clear and easy to read. But I will also get a Crystal Light in a few days so I can check out more what works then with the Light. i got a 4090 like you, and i9 13900k. Even without eye tracking on the Crystal Light I don’t think you need such a low resolution in Pimax Play.