Decreasing Loading Times - Back to old GUI

Antecedents:

Horribly slow gui for me as well, always was for me with the newer one.

Hoping this will be fixed soon, or at least allow to change to old style gui which worked really well.

I will try the "run as Admin" but I have similar load wait times. More so going from the menu screen to the options menu (takes about a minute or so). When in the mission editor some features hang for a good 30-40 seconds before completing the selection. (For example create new flight, choose number 1 position as "player" will hang for 30-40 seconds all the time.

 

The mission loading isn't SO bad, but navigating through the menu's takes longer than it should I believe (compared to BS and LOMAC).

S(h)ame here:

 

Loading time:...........to start screen (launcher.exe)...........to InGameOPTIONS

Beta2 & DCSBS & FC2............~15sec..................................~3sec

Beta3.................................~21sec..................................~3sec

Beta4.................................~73sec..................................~70sec

Final ?!?:.............................~120sec................................~70sec :surprise::furious::censored::crash::ranting: Sinclair ZX Spectrum ?

 

Final ?!?:

1 Click on PAYLOAD button to LOADOUT EDITOR (with A-10C) ~12sec-23sec

1 Click to (right arrow button - 1 OF 1) add more A-10C (wingmen) ~11sec-28sec in MISSION EDITOR (Map Screen)

so I hope i can help you...

These will take effect on loading time of Launcher.exe, Option window(menu) and debriefing page(loading back Launcher.exe)

1.

Open the (DCS A-10C Final) Quick Launch Icon

Edit

"...\DCS A-10C Final\bin\Launcher.exe"

type --console

like this:

"...\DCS A-10C Final\bin\Launcher.exe" --console

it will open a black DOS window with DCS messages when the program is running

2.

Open MissionEditor.lua in ...\DCS A-10C Final\MissionEditor

edit row 3

from

NEW_GUI = true

to

NEW_GUI = false

edit row 872

from

Gui.SetBackground()

to

-- Gui.SetBackground()

3.

Open Widget.lua in...\DCS A-10C Final\luagui5

edit row 170

from

gui.WidgetSetTooltip(self.widget, tooltip.widget)

to

-- gui.WidgetSetTooltip(self.widget, tooltip.widget)

4.

Open me_debriefing.lua in...\DCS A-10C Final\MissionEditor\modules

edit row 662

form.data_table:removeAllRows()

to

-- form.data_table:removeAllRows()

5.

Open the ...\DCS A-10C Final\Sounds\Effects\Aircrafts\Cockpits folder

copy (not move to...!) Button1.wav, Button2.wav, Button3.wav, Button4.wav, Button5.wav

to here: ...\DCS A-10C Final\Sounds\Effects (into) folder

6.

Open ...\DCS A-10C Beta4\bin folder ! ! ! BETA4

Copy lua-gui5.dll (443904 bytes)

to here: ...\DCS A-10C Final\bin (into) folder

DOWNLOAD here: lua-gui5.dll

Size: 434 KB

Expires: March 6, 2011 10:52 PST

https://www.yousendit.com/download/T2pIZGVUY1NUWUEwTVE9PQ

Cheers

Maybe the Old GUI is less "clever" than New GUI :(

I don't know other side effects.

Im testing right now but works well till now.

EDITED --> Side effect: no descriptions/notes over grids in LOADOUT EDITOR (cursor over weapon)

Nice tip...

Just got me Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, and am in the process of reinstall.

So i'm gonna see if how the new GUI is now.... Might try this tip though if it's still slow.

:angel: Super ! :thumbup:

Fine like Beta2 & DCSBS & FC2............to Editor ~15sec.......................to Options~3sec :worthy:

Hey HungaroJET!

Thanks for your initiative!

I've tried your work around now (running the 32 bit-application on Windows 7 64 bit) on a fresh installation of the released game (english version).

Unfortunately I get the following error message when launching the altered short cut:

Any suggestions to where I failed following your steps?

I have the same issue.

Hey HungaroJET!

Thanks for your initiative!

I've tried your work around now (running the 32 bit-application on Windows 7 64 bit) on a fresh installation of the released game (english version).

 

Unfortunately I get the following error message when launching the altered short cut:

 

Any suggestions to where I failed following your steps?

I'm seeing the same error message after making the edits.

HungaroJET, would it be possible for you to post the modified lua files to the form? That would eliminate any chance of the error being due to stupidity or bad typing on my part...

Yep, the same error here. Maybe it's related to missing beta4 files?

I have the same error message after the mods.

I have found that

NEW_GUI = true

to

NEW_GUI = false

was the cause.

I've heard from a lot of guys, most with better systems than mine that they have had long Initial Load and GUI wait times and still some stuttering and low FPS in game.

Everything seems to run fine on my mid level system.

From desktop to start screen = 15 seconds.

From start screen to options = 7 seconds.

When the Official Release came out I un-installed Beta 4 from my disk drive and loaded the new release on a Solid State Drive. I wonder if this makes the difference or if I'm just lucky?

I have the same error message after the mods.

I have found that

 

NEW_GUI = true

to

NEW_GUI = false

 

was the cause.

Wouldn't this change invalidate the subsequent lua edits and keep the new GUI in which case the load times wouldn't change? I'm curious if you changed the lua files and kept this setting did your load times improve?

^^I can confirm that setting it back to "TRUE" (New GUI) doesn't affect the (already slow) performance.

^^I can confirm that setting it back to "TRUE" (New GUI) doesn't affect the (already slow) performance.

Oh Holy S**T :doh: Sorry Folks :wallbash: Im just forget the essence:

Open ...\DCS A-10C Beta4\bin ! ! ! BETA4

Copy lua-gui5.dll (443904 bytes)

into

...\DCS A-10C Final\bin

As i see Vampire copied lua-gui5.dll before i wrote ;)

Can you please attach that file for us who have already uninstalled beta4?

It would be PIA to have to install it just because of one DLL.

Thanks.

Oh Holy S**T :doh: Sorry Folks :wallbash: Im just forget the essence:

 

Open ...\DCS A-10C Beta4\bin ! ! ! BETA4

Copy lua-gui5.dll (443904 bytes)

into

...\DCS A-10C Final\bin

 

 

As i see Vampire copied lua-gui5.dll before i wrote ;)

HungaroJET,

Thanks!!! That was the missing piece. Opening menu opens now in less than 30 seconds. Will be interesting if ED is able to correct this problem in a future patch.

Can you please attach that file for us who have already uninstalled beta4?

It would be PIA to have to install it just because of one DLL.

 

Thanks.

Adding the DLL along with the other edits dramatically reduced the load times. I would be happy to post the DLL if the Forum Admins aprove as I don't want to violate any EULA or forum rules...

thank you HungaroJET problem solved i can confirm that this works :thumbup:

any1 know where to get the necessary files? since i have deleted beta files already and cant seem to find them anywhere

Adding the DLL along with the other edits dramatically reduced the load times. I would be happy to post the DLL if the Forum Admins aprove as I don't want to violate any EULA or forum rules...

Yeah, would be nice if one of the mods chims in and let us know how should we proceed on this one.

any1 know where to get the necessary files? since i have deleted beta files already and cant seem to find them anywhere

DOWNLOAD here: lua-gui5.dll

Size: 434 KB

Expires: March 6, 2011 10:52 PST

https://www.yousendit.com/download/T2pIZGVUY1NUWUEwTVE9PQ

Folks ! Please upload it too other spaces ! Maybe we will need it later too ;)

Thanks a bunch! The menu and mission editor now run smooth and there's no more lag. Rep inbound! :)

It works, thx;)

I'm getting an error message saying lua-gui5.dll is not a valid Win32 application?

That worked, finally have main menu :D

Nice job HJet. Working fine (and fast!)

I'm getting an error message saying lua-gui5.dll is not a valid Win32 application?

lua-gui5.dll is a valid Win32 application, im using XP32bit

I tried what you wrote there and it worked!

It seems Beta 4 menu was much faster and not so resources hungry like new one. Thanks. I spreaded too much rep to give you now, so I will do it tomorrow.

Beta4 lua-gui5.dll was the latest, so i added this to Final.

Beta3 and Beta2 used the same lua-gui5.dll but a bit shorter/differ from Beta4 lua-gui5.dll

BTW: thanx for Reps Folks :D