Ch Products calibration problem

[Pinefang]

So my problem is with both the Ch products Pro throttle and Fighterstick USB. When I reduce the throttle to off my engines sometimes and quite regularly surge this happens after first starting the engines and when I have reduced it back from a thrust setting. I can have just started the aircraft and throttle is at idle then all of a sudden the engines start surging and the aircraft starts moving forward. I pull the throttle back or push it forward and then back and sometimes it will come back to idle and sometimes it won't. This has screwed up many navigation/CDU initializations and landing rollouts sending me past the end of the runway with engines howling. This also happens with the fighterstick throttle control, I would like to use it set as the Zoom control but this problem negates that usage at this time. Any where it is set the view constantly shudders or stutters it is only static at the very ends of its travel. I have calibrated both throttle and stick and you can see them getting small ghost inputs in the calibration program. I see the ghost input in all axis of the calibration program just more so in the Z axis. I use them in direct mode since it doesn't seem to be necssary to set up programs for them to operate in. If you need the info I am operating Windows 7 pro, DCS A-10C, Intel I5 3.0 processor, 16GB ram, Nvidia 650 TI Boost 2 Gb, How can I filter out these ghost inputs? Thanks in advance for yor help

[SkateZilla]

Might need to open them up and look at the POTs and Connections.

 

I had this problem on and off for the last month or so, I'm pretty sure it's a Pot issue.

Whether its a connection, dirty pot or bad pot, i dont know yet.

 

I've given my Throttle some deadzone on the top and bottom of the throttle range to eliminate the small surges in the game.

[Pinefang]

Did you put the dead zone in the ch products calibration program or directly in DCS A-10C controls? I have taken the throttle apart "now awaiting the "Do not remove tag police"" but found nothing wrong except that the mechanism does not allow the pot to go to its full on and off. Not sure it has to after it is calibrated. They probably should have added a resister to filter this but didn't, I wonder if anyone else is having this same problem? This is frustrating since I researched on line for new pots and can't find these anywhere and it looks like CH Products does not sell them anymore if ever. Well there is the "Do Not Remove Tag police I have to go now. Thanks for your help

Edited March 13, 2014 by Pinefang

[9.JG27 DavidRed]

in my experience, this is typical for ch-products...i have the fighterstick, the pro throttle and the pro pedals, and all three of them had those spikes you are describing...

i think, all you can do against it, is to set some deadzones...

[Pinefang]

Thanks guys it doesn't look like there is a good fix for this problem I even traded out one pot for another in the problem position and the new pot did the same thing in that position in the Fighterstick. I know not to purchase CH products from now on. Very sad state of affairs. Now I can see why It is so difficult to AAR with this set up. Not saying it is impossible but I think these spikes make it a whole lot more difficult.

[PureEvil]

So my problem is with both the Ch products Pro throttle and Fighterstick USB. When I reduce the throttle to off my engines sometimes and quite regularly surge this happens after first starting the engines and when I have reduced it back from a thrust setting. I can have just started the aircraft and throttle is at idle then all of a sudden the engines start surging and the aircraft starts moving forward. I pull the throttle back or push it forward and then back and sometimes it will come back to idle and sometimes it won't. This has screwed up many navigation/CDU initializations and landing rollouts sending me past the end of the runway with engines howling. This also happens with the fighterstick throttle control, I would like to use it set as the Zoom control

 

tried wheel brakes? Zoom control is a cheat anyway lol

 

I know not to purchase CH products from now on.

 

CH is still most reliable maker of joysticks, take it or leave it. can't say i like the low accuracy of the controller, but everything else is fine.

Edited March 14, 2014 by PureEvil

[Cali]

I've used CH for about 10 years until I recently switched to a Cougar and I never had a problem with my CH stuff.

[IvanK]

I have been running CH stuff for the last 6 years ... not a single issue.

[104th_Crunch]

I guess you are out of warranty? My first thing to do would be to contact CH. CH gear, and the company are great, but no product is 100% defect free. I have had the gameport versions, and usb versions of their controllers. I have had 1 bad pot, and 1 bad button contact. I was able to fix both, and I never have had any other issues, spikes, or otherwise.

 

Strange that your attempt at pot switching didn't work. Good luck, it seems going to CH may be your only option.

[WildBillKelsoe]

You could order replacement pots throught Debbie McDowell on their forums. They are helpful in that regard. I too had this problem but went to CH control manager and set my aft position a bit forward. Now that the throttle is all the way back there is no spikes, or you can set a deadzone fore and aft in DCS GUI controller options.