Update #31

[Silver_Dragon]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/508681281/dcs-wwii-europe-1944/posts/784976

No Guts – No Glory

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Well folks,

 

Frustrating couple of weeks.

 

The entire office spent all of last week trying to figure out what was up with the 109. Kind of a standard thing with all DCS planes when they suddenly begin doing something absolutely unexpected.

 

 

Our 109 flight model started as a copy of the P-51, and then we began slowly replacing all systems and all data with Messerschmitt stuff. Well, after another round of replacements something somewhere happened with something that made the 109 decide to crabwalk through the sky rather than fly straight like the Mustang. Check each new system. Nothing. Replace each P-51 system with each new 109 system individually. Nothing. Replace all together in conjunction – screech!

 

This is the kind of stuff we really can’t afford to be spending so much time on at this stage of the project, especially as it really looked to everyone that we really put more than enough time for the unexpected into the project in the first place. Still, the 109 still doesn’t want to fly right, and it’s not the question of our skills or experience. Like I said, the entire office, including all ED veterans, spent this whole time trying to figure it out alongside our programmers. If anything, their experience had a slightly calming effect. We want to pull our hair out, while they chuckle and say “yup, happens every time.”

 

To give you a better idea of the kind of work that goes into all of this, here’s some details of the P-47.

 

 

To make matters worse, the P-47 is documented so much worse than the P-51, and, surprisingly, even worse than the Bf 109. For example, check the tail gear shots above. This was all done from photos.

 

The best blueprint we have is this:

 

 

Obviously, not nearly enough data to fully model the mechanism. And with all parts that need to move in complex animations, making sure everything fits and doesn’t fall apart or clip through when animating, well, let’s just say that lately the P-47 modeler has had very little joy in his life.

[Grim_Smiles]

Mods: Go ahead and delete the one I posted. No need for a duplicate and since SD was able to quote the entire update rather than just a link (I'm not aware of how to do that), it is better to keep his.

 

Glad at least the ED guys were calm about it and acted like this is normal for the 109 crabwalk.

[Silver_Dragon]

Opsss, sorry TooTall 8o

[Grim_Smiles]

Opsss, sorry TooTall 8o

 

No you're fine man:), I had no idea how to get it posted into the thread so I'm glad that you were able to do it.

[Barrett_g]

Who needs blueprints when your working hand in hand with the Fighter Collection and have easy access to flight worthy aircraft?

[msalama]

...easy access to flight worthy aircraft?

 

I don't know, someone modelling these AC perhaps? Kind of hard to take your laptop to the field and pin the AC in question to its display I'd guess...

[SlipBall]

I think that there is a good chance that these drawings can be found at the Library of Congress and the US Patent Office. Would be a lot of leg work though.......they would need to hire a researcher, or a volunteer, and that's not likely.

Edited March 22, 2014 by GT 5.0

[klem]

Sounds like.....

 

We will need lots of patience.

 

We should expect delays & missed deadlines.

 

We hope to be rewarded with a high quality & high fidelity sim.

 

+1

 

Only 6 months in and the "are we there yet" brigade have already started.

[rootango]

good to see another update, even if it shows the lack of hard data and original blueprint copies available to luthier's team, it makes their job much harder :book: .

 

still, onwards and upwards we go and the show must go on, none of this is an insurmountable problem :)

 

Who needs blueprints when your working hand in hand with the Fighter Collection and have easy access to flight worthy aircraft?

 

all that means is that you have full access to the aircraft to inspect (and measure etc) it from the outside. they dont really let you take it home for a full strip down to measure each individual part and nut and bolt to the millimeter, so there are still major limits on the information you can obtain from it.

[*Rage*]

Good luck RRG. Dont let the hiccups get you down! I for one am still very much looking forward to this.

[Pman]

Not too mention that the Fighter Collection dont have a P-47 any more ;)

 

Its now residing in Dan Friedkins private collection in Texas :) (or will be shortly after a stop over in chino)