BrackishWater Posted February 19, 2006 Posted February 19, 2006 when you try to do time compression, it forces autopilot. and most of the time when you disengage auto-pilot, the flight controls are hosed (they are offset, as if they need to be recalibrated). thus I STILL cannot play this game. the only way to play is to never use time compression or autopilot, which means it will take all afternoon to play a few missions and i ALWAYS have to fly manually. I can't believe this bug hasn't been fixed?! we're not at version 1.2 the game is still broken...
169th_Crusty Posted February 19, 2006 Posted February 19, 2006 when you try to do time compression, it forces autopilot. and most of the time when you disengage auto-pilot, the flight controls are hosed (they are offset, as if they need to be recalibrated). thus I STILL cannot play this game. the only way to play is to never use time compression or autopilot, which means it will take all afternoon to play a few missions and i ALWAYS have to fly manually. I can't believe this bug hasn't been fixed?! we're not at version 1.2 the game is still broken... I think you have to make sure that CTL is pressed before hitting "a". Once in a while it might slip in when hitting it repeteatedly.
zaelu Posted February 19, 2006 Posted February 19, 2006 The autopilot is using the trims... when you disengage check trims position and reset. Although today I had a little problem about that too... in Su25T the trims aparently didnt reset completly or something cos' elevator remained a little up and top of the trim light was unlit. I'm not shure if not me was the problem... :) I'll check some more. Also consider to chage the controls such that you will not engage accidentaly the Autopilot when trying to accelerate time. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
Guest EVIL-SCOTSMAN Posted February 19, 2006 Posted February 19, 2006 theres bug that are not fixed in 1.2 already, dam u have blackshark before all of us :p me thinks you meant 1.12 ;)
Brit_Radar_Dude Posted February 19, 2006 Posted February 19, 2006 BrakishWater - it happens to me all the time, exactly like 169th_Crusty said. I often accidentally engage autopilot(A) when using time compression(CNTRL/SHIFT/ALT A). When I realise and disengage it, I then have to re-trim the aircraft. Done it so many times, I don't even kick myself anymore ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Sorry Death, you lose! It was Professor Plum....
Weta43 Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 It's a pain, but its not a bug, just fat finger syndrome... For the Su25t to re-trim engage the autopilot mode that gives level flight, wait till it settles, then disegage. Plus by hitting Shift+A you're denying yourself the joys of the 40 minute ingress to a 35 second furball & a split second ejection :-) Cheers.
Sinner6 Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 Or simply map them to seperate and un-fudgeable HOTAS buttons.
zaelu Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 Now I see that reset trims on Su25 and Su25T are not working. Also the rotary trim is not working on these two aircraft. Why? Or is just me stupid and I'm doing something wrong??:rolleyes: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
Weta43 Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 There is no trim reset on the 25/25T, and no rotary trim either as neither of these planes have these features in real life. Cheers.
zaelu Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 Aha... but the keyboard trims are working. I don't supose the Su25/25T have a keyboard either :D . Isn't this way too complicated to control the aircraft after atack when you exit "alt hold" and try to egres? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
Weta43 Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 Of course they do! How else would they chat to other pilots? It's a folding one the pilots carry in what looks like a map pocket on their flight suits & it plugs into one of the 6 USB2 ports to the right of the seat - just out of sight in the LO cockpit. I think what they are modeling is that they have some input device you can't reach with your hands on the throttle & stick. I don't think it's that complicated, but I don't think it's a very user friendly arrangement either, especially given how the handling is affected when you throw something heavy off one wing. Cheers.
Ironhand Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 Now I see that reset trims on Su25 and Su25T are not working. Also the rotary trim is not working on these two aircraft. Why? Or is just me stupid and I'm doing something wrong?QUOTE] Okay. Maybe I'm misinterpreting the conversation but... The trim buttons for the Su-25(T) are mapped to a hat switch by default. On my X-45 it's the hat switch that falls naturally under your right thumb just as it is on the real aircraft. The trimming feels very natural to me and is easy to control. It's the rare day that I use the autopilot except, perhaps, on a long flight. Rich YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
zaelu Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 I don't have problem to trim the plane using "key taping" is just that I don't know what direction to start :D . And that's because after looking on TV searching for targets, fireing, etc, etc you want to quickly get out of there when you finished and you disengage "alt hold" and you find your plane not flying ok. Maybe I am still noob at this (hell, I'm shure of it :) ) but when I disengage I don't check what is the direction the aircraft is trimed... I just pull away then I start to check the plane. Then my mind gets a blue screen :D . [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
Ironhand Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 I don't have problem to trim the plane using "key taping" is just that I don't know what direction to start. And that's because after looking on TV searching for targets, fireing, etc, etc you want to quickly get out of there when you finished and you disengage "alt hold" and you find your plane not flying ok... Ahhhhh... Now I understand. The problems are a result of using one of the autopilot modes. So let me ask you this. Have you tried manually trimming and then simply flying while you target and fire? If the situation is so "hot" that you need to grab the stick and get out of there instantly, then you probably shouldn't be using an autopilot mode in the first place. :) Rich YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
zaelu Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 He he, thx for help Rich but, my X45 has some small-little-tiny spikes that forbid whatching tv while nobody is flying the aircraft towards enemy AAA. :p [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
BrackishWater Posted February 21, 2006 Author Posted February 21, 2006 How do I reset trims? How do I reset trims? Also, I promise you I'm not fat-fingering it, I'm SUPER careful because when it happens I lose 20 minutes of my life as the mission is over once auto pilot is enabled because i'm in a spin crashing to earth and what's worse is my wingman is following me!!!:D I think i will try mapping auto pilot to another key, yeah that sounds NICE! Thanks for that tip! wish me luck:icon_supe
Gazehound Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 How do I reset trims? Ctrl-t, Will not work with su25 (or 't') VVS504 Red Hammers
Jester_159th Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 Look at the instrument panel about in the middle just below the main flight instruments. You'll see three rectangular green lights. Can't remember which order it's in but these represent aileron, elevator and rudder trim. If the light is lit, then the trim is at it's neutral position. To reset the trim in the 25 or 25T, if for example your plane is rolling left but otherwise flying straight, chances are two of the lights will be lit and one unlit. Add aileron trim to the right till the light illuminates. Same procedure for rudder and elevator trim if they're not lit. This should be perfect if you're not carrying a payload. However during a mission (especially if you're carrying an uneven load - fired 1 Kh-25T out of 2 for example) chances are that neutral trim still won't have you flying straight and level. but from this point you can trim it up as is required for your load/speed etc with a solid knowledge of where your starting point for trimming was.
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