F-15C roll rate

[gavagai]

I purchased FC3 thanks to the sale. So far I am enjoying the jets in DCS. However, I was very surprised at the high roll rates and lack of intertia (especially compared to Falcon BMS). I know a military pilot who has seat time in the F-15C and I've asked him to comment on the roll rate in DCS. He'll be using a cougar hotas, fwiw. Have F-15C pilots tested the flight model similarly to the feedback yoyo received for the P-51? Except for this one issue I am very pleased with the flight physics.

 

Now, before I'm flamed, I did a search in this sub-forum on roll rate and nothing came up. Also, sorry in advance if it is bad form to compare to another sim.

 

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[Pepec9124]

I would rather wait until AFM is in final state.

[tsumikae]

Just in case you didn't know, the F15C flight model has been upgraded to "professional flight model", or PFM. Prior to that it was AFM (Advanced flight model). The rest of the FC3 planes are still AFM or less. The su27 is next on the upgrade list.

 

This thread explains the hows and whys:

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=122801

 

Now, as for your question (how good is the flight model), DCS PFM is seemingly unmatched right now, but that's only what I read, and I'm certainly not a F15 pilot.

[TAW_Blaze]

They do have a real life SME that helps them. It's still WIP though.

[naizarak]

yes i've also noticed that f15 roll response is extremely fast. i had to town down my roll axis to compensate, plane was basically uncontrollable otherwise

[Cali]

I don't know about the 15's roll rate, but the 16 roll rate is extremely fast irl. I haven't flown the 15 that much, so I'll have to take a look at it.

[26-J39]

I don't have an issue with the roll rate, I think it's pretty spot on actually but at higher than combat speeds it is a bit extreme. This seems to me anyway more of CAS tweaking issue anyway, and yes WIP.

 

I might get some WIP stickers made up and whack em everywhere. lol

[Svend_Dellepude]

Just in case you didn't know, the F15C flight model has been upgraded to "professional flight model", or PFM. Prior to that it was AFM (Advanced flight model). The rest of the FC3 planes are still AFM or less. The su27 is next on the upgrade list.

 

This thread explains the hows and whys:

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=122801

 

Now, as for your question (how good is the flight model), DCS PFM is seemingly unmatched right now, but that's only what I read, and I'm certainly not a F15 pilot.

 

Prior to the new FM the F-15 was SFM, same as SU-27, -33 and MiG-29.

Just to let you know. :)

[tsumikae]

Prior to the new FM the F-15 was SFM, same as SU-27, -33 and MiG-29.

Just to let you know. :)

Yup, sorry. I have read so many time that F15C has AFM (which, it appears, had never been the case) that I assumed it effectively had at some point.

[GGTharos]

That's correct. The CAS will attempt to keep the roll rate constant with respect to stick deflection, with a theoretical maximum of 250dps.

 

If the CAS fails and you can do a full deflection, you can get more than 500dps IIRC at high speeds.

 

I don't have an issue with the roll rate, I think it's pretty spot on actually but at higher than combat speeds it is a bit extreme. This seems to me anyway more of CAS tweaking issue anyway, and yes WIP.

 

I might get some WIP stickers made up and whack em everywhere. lol