20mm cannon

[Antorian]

is there plans to include a 20mm cannon load out for the f-86?

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

Probably not. Foxtrots didn't carry cannons, save for eight examples. The only standard Sabres to carry cannons were the Australian Avon Sabres. The only American Sabres to carry cannon as a standard armament were the Kilo and Lima SabreDogs.

[Sceptre]

Probably not. Foxtrots didn't carry cannons, save for eight examples.

 

There have only ever been 4 ка-50 to be used in the field and look what sim we have of it ))))))

[IvanK]

... and the Australian Sabres were 30mm

 

The F86H was also 4 x 20mm... not exactly a standard sword though :)

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

There have only ever been 4 ка-50 to be used in the field and look what sim we have of it ))))))

 

They still saw a production run to the tune of 30 something. Foxtrot Sabres only had 8 examples fitted with cannons.

[mjmorrow]

If Belsimtek ever makes another Sabre, forget the 20mm cannons and go for a CAC Sabre, with twin 30mm cannons. :thumbup:

 

P.S. If cannons are your thing, wait till we get the Belsimtek DCS Mig-15bis. 23 mm cannons are the Fagot' s pea shooters. :)

Edited August 13, 2014 by mjmorrow

[Amuro]

F-86F-2

[dumgrunt]

i dont expect belsimtek would do it, since the aircraft are substantially different, but how hard would it be for a modder to "get close" the CAC-27? two 30mm aden cannons and the avon engine. the extra 400kg of pork must have been in the guns, since the avon was apparently lighter than the J47.

[doraemil]

+1 on the Aussie Sabre. Although I'd be cool to have the 4 20mm ones too.

[WinterH]

We have F-86F and apart from a very few airframes, armament of F-86F is 6x .50 cal. For me it's simple as that. Would I want another variant to be made into a module too, like F-86H or Canadian or Australian Sabers? Hell yes, why not? But F-86F should stay with 6 x .50 cals in my opinion.

 

Fact is, I'm loving those 6 guns. With high combined rate of fire, very flat trajectory for quite a long range, all right around nose, and F-86 being as stable as it is, they are quite lovely for both A-A and A-G use. That is, if we put aside general anemy that all guns/cannons display for A-A in DCS, but 20mm would be affected my this too. With a good burst on an engine or wings, 6 guns have no problem taking even a Su-25 down :)

[mjmorrow]

After the Mig-15bis, as much as I would like a cannon carrying Sabre, I think the next fixed wing Belsimtek plane should be a Mig-17F or a Mig-17PF. There are going to be a number of Vietnam era Blue rides added to DCS, such as the Super Sabre and A-7 Corsair II. We don't have any historical Red rivals for these rides. The Mig-17F or Mig-17PF is a historically appropriate and logical rival for the Blue machines flying between the mid 1950's and mid 1970's. The Mig-17 also benefitted from technology derived from both the F-86F Sabre and Mig-15bis Fagot-B, so it makes sense to create the plane that was influenced by both the Sabre and the Fagot. :thumbup:

Edited August 14, 2014 by mjmorrow

[VincentLaw]

If a 20 mm cannon variant of the Sabre is done, it should be the FJ-3 Fury. Carrier ops and aerial refueling for the win!

Edited August 15, 2014 by VincentLaw