doveman Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 As you can see from this screenshot, I don't have "Module Manager" in my DCS menu I've tried running repair and even deleting the contents of bin and running repair but it's still the same. I don't really want to have to delete everything, download DCS and then reinstall from scratch. The bulk of DCS is in the Bazar folder (11GB) anyway and it doesn't look like the files in there are anything to do with the GUI. So if anyone can advise what files are used by the GUI I can try deleting them and run a repair to replace them. I'm not sure why repair isn't replacing whatever broken files are causing this problem anyway though. I also can't activate my modules. I just upgraded my mobo/CPU, so it prompts me to do so and already has the key entered but then says "incorrect time server settings" error when I click OK. I can't deactivate them now either, due to the hardware change but I'm not bothered about that. I checked the time in the BIOS and that's correct, to hour and minute anyway, my phone doesn't show seconds but I've been told it doesn't need to be that accurate. I don't think the BIOS time should matter anyway, as Windows syncs itself to a timeserver and there's not much point doing that if it just ignores that and uses the BIOS time instead. I tried activating the alternate way via the star-force website as well and that says my hardware code was generated more than one day ago. I can't use the website to try and deactivate, as if I select "alternate method" from the module deactivation screen, it says "Are you sure" and then gives an error that it failed, without ever showing me any codes to enter into the website. Main rig: i5-4670k @4.4Ghz, Asus Z97-A, Scythe Kotetsu HSF, 32GB Kingston Savage 2400Mhz DDR3, 1070ti, Win 10 x64, Samsung Evo 256GB SSD (OS & Data), OCZ 480GB SSD (Games), WD 2TB and WD 3TB HDDs, 1920x1200 Dell U2412M, 1920x1080 Dell P2314T touchscreen
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted September 13, 2014 ED Team Posted September 13, 2014 Strange, did you deactivate your modules before doing the hardware upgrade? also can you attach your logs ( found in saved games / dcs ), and update log ( found in dcsworld directory ) Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
doveman Posted September 13, 2014 Author Posted September 13, 2014 Strange, did you deactivate your modules before doing the hardware upgrade? also can you attach your logs ( found in saved games / dcs ), and update log ( found in dcsworld directory ) No. I've got a triple-boot system so deactivated on the other two Windows but left this one, out of curiosity to see if it would need re-activating or not. Logs attached as requested.DCS_Logs.zip Main rig: i5-4670k @4.4Ghz, Asus Z97-A, Scythe Kotetsu HSF, 32GB Kingston Savage 2400Mhz DDR3, 1070ti, Win 10 x64, Samsung Evo 256GB SSD (OS & Data), OCZ 480GB SSD (Games), WD 2TB and WD 3TB HDDs, 1920x1200 Dell U2412M, 1920x1080 Dell P2314T touchscreen
SkateZilla Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 You sure this isnt a steam version? Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
doveman Posted September 13, 2014 Author Posted September 13, 2014 Yeah, it's installed on my S: partition and my Steam install is on D: I checked with process monitor and it loads all the files from S:, not D: If it was the Steam version, surely the repairer/updater wouldn't even be there or work would it? After I deleted the contents of bin/ and ran the repairer to replace them, wouldn't that have removed any Steam files, even if I had put them there by accident (which I don't think I've done)? I mean, the other files are just data aren't they, so there'd be no difference between the Steam and non-Steam versions of those would there? Main rig: i5-4670k @4.4Ghz, Asus Z97-A, Scythe Kotetsu HSF, 32GB Kingston Savage 2400Mhz DDR3, 1070ti, Win 10 x64, Samsung Evo 256GB SSD (OS & Data), OCZ 480GB SSD (Games), WD 2TB and WD 3TB HDDs, 1920x1200 Dell U2412M, 1920x1080 Dell P2314T touchscreen
Flagrum Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) Yeah, it's installed on my S: partition and my Steam install is on D: I checked with process monitor and it loads all the files from S:, not D: If it was the Steam version, surely the repairer/updater wouldn't even be there or work would it? After I deleted the contents of bin/ and ran the repairer to replace them, wouldn't that have removed any Steam files, even if I had put them there by accident (which I don't think I've done)? I mean, the other files are just data aren't they, so there'd be no difference between the Steam and non-Steam versions of those would there? WARNING: do at your own risk! I haven't tested this and if anything bad happens ... it is your own problem then! :o) Check the file ...\Config\retail.cfg and then delete it. As far as I understand the relevant .LUAs, if this file is NOT present, DCS assumes it is the ED web download version and as such the module manager should be available. What I do not know is, if there are possible further dependencies - like something concerning the autoupdater or similar stuff. Again, do at your own risk. (I am so overly carefull here as it is strange that - if my suspicion is true - that your ED download install somehow ended up with that file. Probably something more serious went wrong earlier and this is just a mere symptom and not the error itself!) edit: for more details, check out ...\MissionEditor\MissionEditor.lua, function loadTypeOfSale() Edited September 13, 2014 by Flagrum
G00dnight Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 why does it say FC3 in top right corner..?.. AMD A8-5600K @ 4GHz, Radeon 7970 6Gig, 16 Gig Ram, Win 10 , 250 gig SSD, 40" Screen + 22 inch below, Track Ir, TMWH, Saitek combat pedals & a loose nut behind the stick :thumbup:
doveman Posted September 13, 2014 Author Posted September 13, 2014 WARNING: do at your own risk! I haven't tested this and if anything bad happens ... it is your own problem then! :o) Check the file ...\Config\retail.cfg and then delete it. As far as I understand the relevant .LUAs, if this file is NOT present, DCS assumes it is the ED web download version and as such the module manager should be available. What I do not know is, if there are possible further dependencies - like something concerning the autoupdater or similar stuff. Again, do at your own risk. (I am so overly carefull here as it is strange that - if my suspicion is true - that your ED download install somehow ended up with that file. Probably something more serious went wrong earlier and this is just a mere symptom and not the error itself!) edit: for more details, check out ...\MissionEditor\MissionEditor.lua, function loadTypeOfSale() Nice one Flagrum. God knows how that got there (it said STEAM inside) but deleting it has given me the Module Manager back :thumbup: Clicking on Module Manager and it detected the new modules I just purchased in the flash sale and downloaded them. After that, I could view all the Serial numbers for my modules in MM. Going to an Instant Action for the Sabre, which was one of the new modules I've just purchased, it threw up the activation prompts for all my modules and I had the same error when trying to activate them, until it got to the Sabre, which accepted my key and loaded. Then I tried the Mi-8, which was the other module I bought today and the same thing happened, although I didn't have to enter my key for the Mi-8 when it got to that and it just loaded. I would have thought if MM has the keys already (not sure where it got them from!) then that's how it should be though, so I'm not sure why I had to enter the Sabre key. Not sure why it's throwing up the activation prompts for the other modules when I'm trying to launch the Sabre or Mi-8 either. I guess I'll try deleting the modules one by one and see if the repairer gets them working again. I won't delete the missions as they're the biggest part of most of the modules! Main rig: i5-4670k @4.4Ghz, Asus Z97-A, Scythe Kotetsu HSF, 32GB Kingston Savage 2400Mhz DDR3, 1070ti, Win 10 x64, Samsung Evo 256GB SSD (OS & Data), OCZ 480GB SSD (Games), WD 2TB and WD 3TB HDDs, 1920x1200 Dell U2412M, 1920x1080 Dell P2314T touchscreen
doveman Posted September 13, 2014 Author Posted September 13, 2014 why does it say FC3 in top right corner..?.. I think that's just the splashscreen art I selected isn't it? Main rig: i5-4670k @4.4Ghz, Asus Z97-A, Scythe Kotetsu HSF, 32GB Kingston Savage 2400Mhz DDR3, 1070ti, Win 10 x64, Samsung Evo 256GB SSD (OS & Data), OCZ 480GB SSD (Games), WD 2TB and WD 3TB HDDs, 1920x1200 Dell U2412M, 1920x1080 Dell P2314T touchscreen
doveman Posted September 13, 2014 Author Posted September 13, 2014 I guess I'll try deleting the modules one by one and see if the repairer gets them working again. I won't delete the missions as they're the biggest part of most of the modules! Nope, that didn't work. Tried just with A-10C and got the same error when trying to start a mission. After clicking threw all the errors, the mission did actually start but locked to an external view! Main rig: i5-4670k @4.4Ghz, Asus Z97-A, Scythe Kotetsu HSF, 32GB Kingston Savage 2400Mhz DDR3, 1070ti, Win 10 x64, Samsung Evo 256GB SSD (OS & Data), OCZ 480GB SSD (Games), WD 2TB and WD 3TB HDDs, 1920x1200 Dell U2412M, 1920x1080 Dell P2314T touchscreen
Flagrum Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 Nope, that didn't work. Tried just with A-10C and got the same error when trying to start a mission. After clicking threw all the errors, the mission did actually start but locked to an external view! I'd say, a fresh and clean new installation would be best here. As I said, something must have caused this mix-up earlier and who knows what else is broken now. Install it from scratch.
doveman Posted September 13, 2014 Author Posted September 13, 2014 I'd say, a fresh and clean new installation would be best here. As I said, something must have caused this mix-up earlier and who knows what else is broken now. Install it from scratch. Yeah I guess. Thanks for your help. Main rig: i5-4670k @4.4Ghz, Asus Z97-A, Scythe Kotetsu HSF, 32GB Kingston Savage 2400Mhz DDR3, 1070ti, Win 10 x64, Samsung Evo 256GB SSD (OS & Data), OCZ 480GB SSD (Games), WD 2TB and WD 3TB HDDs, 1920x1200 Dell U2412M, 1920x1080 Dell P2314T touchscreen
doveman Posted September 13, 2014 Author Posted September 13, 2014 Darn it. I deleted everything in the DCS folder, including the mods folder and reinstalled after downloading the current version and it's still throwing up the same errors when I try and activate my old modules :( Maybe there's something messed up in the registry. I'll try using the Uninstall shortcut and reinstalling again. Main rig: i5-4670k @4.4Ghz, Asus Z97-A, Scythe Kotetsu HSF, 32GB Kingston Savage 2400Mhz DDR3, 1070ti, Win 10 x64, Samsung Evo 256GB SSD (OS & Data), OCZ 480GB SSD (Games), WD 2TB and WD 3TB HDDs, 1920x1200 Dell U2412M, 1920x1080 Dell P2314T touchscreen
SkateZilla Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 Delete the Registry Folder for EAGLE DYNAMICS Hardware code is prolly no longer valid., http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=94531 Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
doveman Posted September 13, 2014 Author Posted September 13, 2014 Delete the Registry Folder for EAGLE DYNAMICS Hardware code is prolly no longer valid., http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=94531 Thanks. Yeah, it seems even uninstalling doesn't wipe that. Wish I'd known about that a couple of hours ago, I probably didn't need to delete all the files after all, just delete the registry keys. :doh: Main rig: i5-4670k @4.4Ghz, Asus Z97-A, Scythe Kotetsu HSF, 32GB Kingston Savage 2400Mhz DDR3, 1070ti, Win 10 x64, Samsung Evo 256GB SSD (OS & Data), OCZ 480GB SSD (Games), WD 2TB and WD 3TB HDDs, 1920x1200 Dell U2412M, 1920x1080 Dell P2314T touchscreen
Wolf Rider Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 silly question... if you upgraded your mobo/ cpu, did you run a fresh install of your Op Sys and then everything else? time sync Windows will, through that also set the mobo date/ time correctly City Hall is easier to fight, than a boys' club - an observation :P "Resort is had to ridicule only when reason is against us." - Jefferson "Give a group of potheads a bunch of weed and nothing to smoke out of, and they'll quickly turn into engineers... its simply amazing." EVGA X99 FTW, EVGA GTX980Ti FTW, i7 5930K, 16Gb Corsair Dominator 2666Hz, Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit, Intel 520 SSD x 2, Samsung PX2370 monitor and all the other toys - "I am a leaf on the wind, watch how I soar"
doveman Posted September 14, 2014 Author Posted September 14, 2014 silly question... if you upgraded your mobo/ cpu, did you run a fresh install of your Op Sys and then everything else? time sync Windows will, through that also set the mobo date/ time correctly No, Windows 8.1 did a pretty good job of resetting itself and installing most of the drivers when I rebooted after upgrading. I only had to manually install a few drivers (sound, NIC, Intel chipset). I made a True Image backup in case that didn't work and I needed to do a Universal Restore but it wasn't necessary in the end. I wouldn't expect Windows 7 to be so easy but I read that it had been improved with Windows 8.1, so thought I'd try it. Anyway, the time server error that DCS was throwing up disappeared after I deleted the old registry entries (I kept the F-86 and Mi-8 ones as I'd successfully activated them today, it was just the older modules that were already installed before I upgraded that were having problems), so it seems that error message was a bit misleading. Main rig: i5-4670k @4.4Ghz, Asus Z97-A, Scythe Kotetsu HSF, 32GB Kingston Savage 2400Mhz DDR3, 1070ti, Win 10 x64, Samsung Evo 256GB SSD (OS & Data), OCZ 480GB SSD (Games), WD 2TB and WD 3TB HDDs, 1920x1200 Dell U2412M, 1920x1080 Dell P2314T touchscreen
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