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Bf109 K-4 HellhoundV2

 

JSGME Ready (I hope I did it right)

 

New skin and cockpit textures

 

Note: You will see the cockpit textures externally. The external screenshots posted here were before I added the cockpit textures.

 

Credit To JST for his Bf 109 K-4 template v2.0

 

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Thanks guys.

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A little overdose of nazi symbols IMHO.

" You must think in russian.."

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Damn Esac, you are picky. Don't install the cockpit texture.

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It´s only my sincere oppinion. I know if i don´t like it i will not download it. I think there are space here for any positive criticism. I´m a defender of the swastika on the rudder for historical realism but i doubt any real cockpit would have such symbology inside the cockpits.

 

Anyway feel free to add whatever you like, it´s your free choice. Like my choice to give you my respectful oppinion about it.

Edited by Esac_mirmidon

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It´s only my sincere oppinion. I know if i don´t like it i will not download it. I think there are space here for any positive criticism. I´m a defender of the swastika on the rudder for historical realism but i doubt any real cockpit would have such symbology inside the cockpits.

 

Anyway feel free to add whatever you like, it´s your free choice. Like my choice to give you my respectful oppinion about it.

 

+1

 

Swastikas are one thing...but the SS Death Squad Skull in a totally fictional Skin...

My Specs:

I don`t care..it is a Computer..a black one..

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Esac, except for the fact that this skin looks pretty close to the one you asked me to make. The cockpit details were an afterthought and not something you need to install. You could just say thanks and install Snowsniper's cockpit.

 

Thanks to you anyway, I would never have made this skin without your picture as I am not a fan of the color scheme but the camouflage actually is pretty functional.

 

Of course it is a fictional skin. As far as the symbology, fighter pilots are pretty macabre, motivated and patriotic. I can almost guarantee they had stuff like this. Their official uniforms are full it.

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Posted (edited)
As far as the symbology, fighter pilots are pretty macabre, motivated and patriotic. I can almost guarantee they had stuff like this. Their official uniforms are full it.

 

Because it's a uniform.. what else you going to wear? Pyjamas? A t-shirt with your favorite band?

 

I don't think Galland, Hartmann or any regular pilot had Swastika's and SS symbols engraved into their cockpits..

Post pictures if you have them.

Edited by arthuro12

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Rudel maybe? :D

 

I have to say that the cockpit textures are done in incredibly bad taste IMO, but as mentioned, they don't have to be used with the external camo. But still.

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Thanks Nascar.

 

I appreciate your effort with the skin.

Edited by Esac_mirmidon

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Didn't mean to offend everyone. To me it is like putting an EGA in a Marine Corps Corsair or Hellcat. I guess I just have a different perspective. I am not caught up in the politics. Funny how the Japanese or Stalin don't have the same stigma.

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Because it's a uniform.. what else you going to wear? Pyjamas? A t-shirt with your favorite band?

 

I don't think Galland, Hartmann or any regular pilot had Swastika's and SS symbols engraved into their cockpits..

Post pictures if you have them.

 

You don't think they had (false) pride in their nation? I don't understand, they killed hundreds of people in the name of their country, do you believe they were offended by Swastika's? They were in airplanes, if they were so offended they could have flown away.

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Rudel maybe? :D

 

I have to say that the cockpit textures are done in incredibly bad taste IMO, but as mentioned, they don't have to be used with the external camo. But still.

 

That's how I feel about the Hello Kitty and Anime stuff.:chair:

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You don't think they had (false) pride in their nation? I don't understand, they killed hundreds of people in the name of their country, do you believe they were offended by Swastika's? They were in airplanes, if they were so offended they could have flown away.

 

That's not the point..

 

The leather rucksack thingy is cool though.

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All I have to say is, you can make any kind of skins you want, just as I can have my opinion about any work I see.

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If it's historical, keep it accurate.

If it's fictional, do what you wish.

 

Either way, don't expect everyone to like what you are doing.

Especially with fictional skins it's easy to step into the side of bad taste.

 

In real life, people were not always in it for the bloody&gore and killing, they were doing what they thought what was necessary or what "must be done". Maybe misguided and mislead in that but not because they were more evil than people on the other side.

 

Stereotyping people as someone who enjoy "evil things" is not appreciated despite whatever the intentions were.

"I would have written a shorter post, but I did not have the time."

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For me flying a 109 is like playing for the dark side in a star wars game.I could't care less about politics .Modern or ancient .

I think for Nascar creating this skin was like creating a dark side character if you know what i mean.

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Well, those signs in the cockpit are more ideological than other kinds of markings.

If they were just political markings it could be different, but they are not.

So they are easily causing pretty heated reactions in many people.

 

I do get the idea of playing "dark side/light side" but stereotyping people into either category is not a good idea as a general rule.

And those markings in the cockpit should not be used anywhere.

Edited by kazereal

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+1

 

Swastikas are one thing...but the SS Death Squad Skull in a totally fictional Skin...

 

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@gavagai

 

Thanks for posting that.I laughed so hard my stomach hurts.

ps: I don't like the cockpit. I do like the external skin though.

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:thumbup:

 

 

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