B52EW Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Hello all, Since the most recent update I've noticed some changes in the way the jet lands. Before, I would keep power in the landing flare and touchdown without major issue. Now, the jet seems to float a lot more in the flare and I feel like I need to take power out before the flare. I still haven't sorted it out yet so I was wondering how everyone else has adjusted their landings. Or am I just going crazy? DRAG
joey45 Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Don't flare. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Spetz Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 I keep airspeed about 400 across the threshold, then slowly pull throttle until my rear wheels touch at about 340ish. haven't really noticed any changes as I find the jet "floats" around at anything below 500
Flamin_Squirrel Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 I keep airspeed about 400 across the threshold, then slowly pull throttle until my rear wheels touch at about 340ish. haven't really noticed any changes as I find the jet "floats" around at anything below 500 Way too fast; that'll only make floating worse. The blown flaps will also not be operational at this speed either iirc. Speed should be 330-340kmh over the inner marker.
Chief1942 Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Ah Ha! Hello all, Since the most recent update I've noticed some changes in the way the jet lands. Before, I would keep power in the landing flare and touchdown without major issue. Now, the jet seems to float a lot more in the flare and I feel like I need to take power out before the flare. I still haven't sorted it out yet so I was wondering how everyone else has adjusted their landings. Or am I just going crazy? DRAG I thought it was something I was doing differently.:joystick: I don't fly the Mig as often as other aircraft, but I did notice that the last time in a landing that the plane did seem to "float" and I was using the same procedures as I had used before with great success. I thought perhaps the last update may have introduced a stronger ground effects aspect to the plane, but I think more than that is at play here. But like most realistic FM's, we need to always be ready to adjust to changes in the environment and adjust the "book" procedures accordingly to compensate for those changes.:smartass: It's that ever changing environment that I really enjoy with DCS and other "study" sims. It prevents me from becoming too proud of myself and thinking it have it wired.:music_whistling: When I do that, I often end up a burning pile of rubble.:doh: Intel i5-4690K Devil's Canyon, GForce TitanX, ASUS Z-97A MB, 16GB GDDR3 GSkill mem, Samsung SSD X3,Track IR, TM Warthog, MFG Crosswind pedals, Acer XB280HK monitor,GAMETRIX KW-908 JETSEAT
B52EW Posted January 17, 2015 Author Posted January 17, 2015 Thank you all for the replies. I am glad some noticed the change. I try to cross the threshold around 380, but sometimes I am around 400. I will have to try at a lower speed. I also completely agree with you chief!!
Chief1942 Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 Hang in there! Man, forget landing this airplane. LOL. I think I'll just eject and walk home. I currently have the same impression of the FW-190.:cry: I land it by simply going ahead an flying right into the ground and save me the anxiety and frustration of trying to get that baby on the ground and keeping it straight thereafter.:joystick: But Like the Mig-21, it is simply a matter of practice, practice, practice. I picked up on the idiosyncrasies of the Mig-21 much quicker than the FW, but I attribute that to the 190 being a tail dragger. And I am so thankful the Mig-21 has that drag chute. Without that I would probably be mowing the lawn with it more often than not.:music_whistling: Intel i5-4690K Devil's Canyon, GForce TitanX, ASUS Z-97A MB, 16GB GDDR3 GSkill mem, Samsung SSD X3,Track IR, TM Warthog, MFG Crosswind pedals, Acer XB280HK monitor,GAMETRIX KW-908 JETSEAT
Djent33 Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 It makes it smooth possibly due to the extra ground effect on touchdown but then landing the nose wheel can feel like something you forgot to do at low speed.
ttaylor0024 Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 I keep airspeed about 400 across the threshold, then slowly pull throttle until my rear wheels touch at about 340ish. haven't really noticed any changes as I find the jet "floats" around at anything below 500 You endanger your tires at these speeds. You can't land this thing like other aircraft. Keep your speed ~320 over the threshold and aim to touchdown at 1m/s. Once your mains touch, keep the nose off with very subtle back pressure as you reduce throttle to idle. Once your nosewheel is on the ground pop the chute if need be.
tsb47 Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 Hello all, Since the most recent update I've noticed some changes in the way the jet lands. Before, I would keep power in the landing flare and touchdown without major issue. Now, the jet seems to float a lot more in the flare and I feel like I need to take power out before the flare. I still haven't sorted it out yet so I was wondering how everyone else has adjusted their landings. Or am I just going crazy? DRAG Yes, I found this too. IMHO the Mig is much easier to land now. I can actually see over the nose on approach at 340 kmph. Landings are still hair though. Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit | i7-4790K@4GHz | 8GB RAM | GTX970 347.52
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