duck1comander Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 Do we know when the WW-II Map is coming out and when are we going to get wing cannon pods for the 109-k also other load outs .also the 109-k was fitted as noted in several books and in talking to now passed Luftwaffe aces the 103 30 firing though the engine ,they were on short supply but im told and I read they were on some 109k ,for bomber killing . and tracer for the 30 . also what ww-2 planes for sure are coming ?
flare2000x Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 Map: Coming probably this summer at the earliest. Gunpods: Probably coming in a future update. MK103: Almost surely not. Tracer: There is one in-game, you can add it in the Bf. 109K4.lua, but no other way yet. WWII planes: For sure from ED: Spitfire IX, P-47D, Me 262. Also, VEAO is doing a P-40F, Spitfire XIV, F8F Bearcat, and many others, but EVENTUALLY, not all that soon. Flare [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS:WWII 1944 BACKER --- Fw. 190D-9 --- Bf. 109K-4 --- P-51D --- Spitfire! Specs: Intel i7-3770 @3.9 Ghz - NVidia GTX 960 - 8GB RAM - OCz Vertex 240GB SSD - Toshiba 1TB HDD - Corsair CX 600M Power Supply - MSI B75MA-P45 MoBo - Defender Cobra M5
gavagai Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 also the 109-k was fitted as noted in several books and in talking to now passed Luftwaffe aces the 103 30 firing though the engine ,they were on short supply but im told and I read they were on some 109k ,for bomber killing . The 109K-4 never had a Mk 103 in the hub. Nor did it have 2 MG 151/15 in the cowling as many outdated references will say. P-51D | Fw 190D-9 | Bf 109K-4 | Spitfire Mk IX | P-47D | WW2 assets pack | F-86 | Mig-15 | Mig-21 | Mirage 2000C | A-10C II | F-5E | F-16 | F/A-18 | Ka-50 | Combined Arms | FC3 | Nevada | Normandy | Straight of Hormuz | Syria
RAZBAM_ELMO Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) The 109K-4 never had a Mk 103 in the hub. Nor did it have 2 MG 151/15 in the cowling as many outdated references will say. Jeez getting into the funky stuff early eh. Contrary to what you think, me ol gran daddy who was a crew chief with the german luftwaffe from 1944-1945 actually did most of those non existent factory installs on the field. So yes there was the option in place should the individual pilot and resources allowed it at the time. BY that point in the war it was mainly whatever the luftwaffe could get their hands on. Edited January 19, 2015 by RAZBAM_ELMO missing my canuckian accent Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. — Dave 'Preacher' Pace, USN.
Celestiale Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 With the Mk103 i am definitely with gavagai here. The Mk103 was to heavy for the 109, it had more then 100kg more then the 108. Would have completely f***ed the aerodynamics of the 109, read about it. I think i heared something about it being used in the Hornisse (410), but definitely not 109. With the 151 i am not sure. Rumours. Didn't see any confirmed source so far.
Celestiale Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 Fw-190 had the mk103 gunpods yep. F8, but it only had 35rounds per gun..
vicx Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 I don 't think you should argue with a gran daddy. Those old guys know stuff.
felthat Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 Will there be a free WW2 map? Ormuz and NTTR will be payware, i expect the same for Normandy ;) (have lil mercy for ED :P)
ED Team NineLine Posted January 19, 2015 ED Team Posted January 19, 2015 Will there be a free WW2 map? Depends on if and how much you backed, if you didnt back, I believe you will have to purchase the map. http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2112208&postcount=1 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Crumpp Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 I don 't think you should argue with a gran daddy. Those old guys know stuff. :megalol: Answers to most important questions ATC can ask that every pilot should memorize: 1. No, I do not have a pen. 2. Indicating 250
duck1comander Posted January 19, 2015 Author Posted January 19, 2015 sorry according to the now departed Adolf galland and if my memory servers right bf 109 operational record and ziggy chief mechanic of red 7 ,they were installed on some as I said when available ,they weren't a standard install ,and sorry I will believe some who flu the airplane in combat and has a solid reputation . duck
Crumpp Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 Bring on that Normandy Map!! Answers to most important questions ATC can ask that every pilot should memorize: 1. No, I do not have a pen. 2. Indicating 250
Slipp Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 Depends on if and how much you backed, if you didnt back, I believe you will have to purchase the map. http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2112208&postcount=1 Ohh, that seems like an expensive deal to me. Buying a 40$ aircraft that you can't use in the proper enviroment without buying another product... Ohh well, thanks for the reply. :)
emg Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) You can get all WWII planes for 15$ each, if you wait a few months after release. ;) DCS is actually a quite cheap hobby for the patient simmer. Edited January 19, 2015 by emg
ED Team NineLine Posted January 19, 2015 ED Team Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) Ohh, that seems like an expensive deal to me. Buying a 40$ aircraft that you can't use in the proper enviroment without buying another product... Ohh well, thanks for the reply. :) Well technically, sky is the proper environment for all aircraft, and I believe all maps, including the current free Black Sea offer that ;) But seriously, if you backed the project you are getting the Normandy map for free, the development time for these maps and the cost to build them, I dont blame them for charging for them. Edited January 19, 2015 by NineLine Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Crumpp Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 I dont blame them for charging for them. Especially at this level of detail and quality.... 40 bucks is worth it. Answers to most important questions ATC can ask that every pilot should memorize: 1. No, I do not have a pen. 2. Indicating 250
MiloMorai Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 Fw-190 had the mk103 gunpods It was basically a test setup that didn't work. The MK103 was too powerful for the wing to handle. The Mk103 was modified for installation (MK103M) in the Bf109 but never functioned properly.
duck1comander Posted January 19, 2015 Author Posted January 19, 2015 I wish Galland was still a live you could tell him he was wrong .
Friedrich-4B Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) I wish Galland was still a live you could tell him he was wrong . If Galland said the MK 103 could be fitted as a motorkanone in the 109 he was definitely wrong; The MG 151/20 was 1.76 m (69.2 in) long, with a barrel length of 1.104 m (43.5 in), leaving 0.652 m (25.7 in) to be fitted into the 109's cockpit (from the Bf 109G-5/6 Weapons Manual): The MK 103 measured 2.35 m (92.5 in) long overall, with a barrel length, with muzzle brake, of 1.34 m (52.76 in): To fit even the breech mechanism and receiver's 1.02 m (40.16 in) length into the cockpit would have meant removing the control column, which might have inconvenienced the pilot. I would like to see where Galland said the MK 103 could be fitted otherwise. Edited January 20, 2015 by Friedrich-4/B [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]************************************* Fortunately, Mk IX is slightly stable, anyway, the required stick travel is not high... but nothing extraordinary. Very pleasant to fly, very controllable, predictable and steady. We never refuse to correct something that was found outside ED if it is really proven...But we never will follow some "experts" who think that only they are the greatest aerodynamic guru with a secret knowledge. :smartass: WWII AIRCRAFT PERFORMANCE
Kurfürst Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 (edited) If Galland said the MK 103 could be fitted as a motorkanone in the 109 he was definitely wrong; Nope, Galland is right while your simplistic assimptions are wrong - the MK 103 (with a modified 103mot variation) was to be and could be fitted to the Bf 109K-8/10 variant. It fitted just nice, the actual problem was not cocpit space but how to slim down the barrel into the blast tube. It would also appear that the MK 103 in the 109 would be provided with 85 rounds. Edited January 25, 2015 by Kurfürst http://www.kurfurst.org - The Messerschmitt Bf 109 Performance Resource Site Vezérünk a bátorság, Kísérőnk a szerencse! -Motto of the RHAF 101st 'Puma' Home Air Defense Fighter Regiment The Answer to the Ultimate Question of the K-4, the Universe, and Everything: Powerloading 550 HP / ton, 1593 having been made up to 31th March 1945, 314 K-4s were being operated in frontline service on 31 January 1945.
Friedrich-4B Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 (edited) Nope, Galland is right while your simplistic assimptions are wrong - the MK 103 (with a modified 103mot variation) was to be and could be fitted to the Bf 109K-8/10 variant. It fitted just nice, the actual problem was not cocpit space but how to slim down the barrel into the blast tube. It would also appear that the MK 103 in the 109 would be provided with 85 rounds. :doh: That's right! A modified MK 103 was planned for the K-8, a reconnaissance variant that apparently didn't leave the drawing boards, and a K-10 that, according to JaPo, wasn't even tested: So, sure Galland was right in that a modified MK 103 variant was planned for 109Ks, but there is no evidence an unmodified MK 103 could be fitted to a K-4, nor is there any evidence such a combination ever existed, let alone reached operational service. Edited January 25, 2015 by Friedrich-4/B [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]************************************* Fortunately, Mk IX is slightly stable, anyway, the required stick travel is not high... but nothing extraordinary. Very pleasant to fly, very controllable, predictable and steady. We never refuse to correct something that was found outside ED if it is really proven...But we never will follow some "experts" who think that only they are the greatest aerodynamic guru with a secret knowledge. :smartass: WWII AIRCRAFT PERFORMANCE
Kurfürst Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 The point was that the MK 103 could be fitted to the 109... The mot version IIRC had a slimmer barell fitting so IT would fit into the blast tube - and as far as gun dimensions go, the critical measurement was the relative placement of the feeding mechanism of the gun. http://www.kurfurst.org - The Messerschmitt Bf 109 Performance Resource Site Vezérünk a bátorság, Kísérőnk a szerencse! -Motto of the RHAF 101st 'Puma' Home Air Defense Fighter Regiment The Answer to the Ultimate Question of the K-4, the Universe, and Everything: Powerloading 550 HP / ton, 1593 having been made up to 31th March 1945, 314 K-4s were being operated in frontline service on 31 January 1945.
9.JG27 DavidRed Posted February 5, 2015 Posted February 5, 2015 ]Map: Coming probably this summer at the earliest.[/b] Gunpods: Probably coming in a future update. MK103: Almost surely not. Tracer: There is one in-game, you can add it in the Bf. 109K4.lua, but no other way yet. WWII planes: For sure from ED: Spitfire IX, P-47D, Me 262. Also, VEAO is doing a P-40F, Spitfire XIV, F8F Bearcat, and many others, but EVENTUALLY, not all that soon. Flare that sounds like wishfull thinking...i hope you are right but im convinced that we wont even see the alpha version of the map this year.all we know is, that first wags stated in june that they plan to release it i think in may 2015...then in the september newsletter he stated that first they are doing the straitz of hormuz map and only then start to work on the normandy map...so i dont believe we will see a normandy map within this year.
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