MOOSE - Mission Object Oriented Scripting Framework

[Delta99]

@corvinus

 

I have very good news and pretty bad news. :doh:

 

The good news is that, after 3 hours of insanity and despair, I figured it out (I think).

The bad news is that the MOOSE documentation and Moose.lua will probably need to be corrected.

 

 

Hardcard, great work here. Can you enter this as an issue on the Moose Github. Hopefully someone will correct it sooner rather than later. Reference this forum post as well.

[Hardcard]

Hi Delta!

 

Funkyfranky told me that he was going to note my findings in the MOOSE development branch.

 

But sure, I can also create a new issue on the MOOSE Github, just in case :thumbup:

[Silvern]

The attached MOOSE demo mission (+ script) does what you asked... although it uses quite a few more lines of code :D

 

 

Thanks, this will help! :)

[marginal]

DUAL CAP script

 

I like the "CAP-011 - CAP and Engage within Zone.lua" script on the MOOSE github.

 

I'm trying to adapt it into a script where I can launch a CAP flight "CHEVY" then after a period of time launch another CAP flight "DODGE"

 

I've used the above script and demo mission as a guide but the CAP flights don't respect the engage zone and shoot at any enemies. I'm not all too sure if they are patrolling the complete zone, they seem to be orbiting.

 

Any suggestions on how to fix this welcome.

DUAL CAP.miz

DUAL CAP.lua

[Hardcard]

@marginal

 

I haven't tested anything yet, but after opening your mission script, I noticed that there's a "Z" at the end of line 24 (typo, I'm assuming).

 

It generates the following DCS scripting error:

:26: '=' expected near 'CapEngageZone'

[marginal]

Thanks Hardcard,

 

 

I'll rerun the mission tonight and see what happens.

 

 

 

One other question:

 

 

AICapZone = AI_CAP_ZONE:New( PatrolZone, 1000, 2000, 500, 600 )

 

 

I want to confirm the constraints on this line are upper and lower altitude in meters, upper and lower speed in km/h?

 

 

Cheers, M

[Delta99]

Almost everything in DCS scripting is specified in meters and km/h so that is a good guess. Otherwise you can reference the docs.

 

Also, always monitor your dcs.log file for errors.

 

Thanks Hardcard,

 

 

I'll rerun the mission tonight and see what happens.

 

 

 

One other question:

 

 

AICapZone = AI_CAP_ZONE:New( PatrolZone, 1000, 2000, 500, 600 )

 

 

I want to confirm the constraints on this line are upper and lower altitude in meters, upper and lower speed in km/h?

 

 

Cheers, M

[ECV56_Polten]

Thanks Hardcard,

 

 

I'll rerun the mission tonight and see what happens.

 

 

 

One other question:

 

 

AICapZone = AI_CAP_ZONE:New( PatrolZone, 1000, 2000, 500, 600 )

 

 

I want to confirm the constraints on this line are upper and lower altitude in meters, upper and lower speed in km/h?

 

 

Cheers, M

That's correct, lower/upper alt, slower/faster airspeed. Both cases in metric system.

Edited January 10, 2019 by ECV56_Polten
Typo

[BoneDust]

Does anyone have a successful script to have tankers respawn on a server. I have a script someone wrote but it doesn't work, and I've wrote one myself still doesn't work.

[Iceviper]

Master Moose issue and the development environment?

 

Guys, I'm having an issue. I've not used Moose in a long time but decided to go back and take a look at it today. I downloaded the master from https://github.com/FlightControl-Master/MOOSE (after a little digging for it). It says version 2.4.14. So I presume its the most up to date version.

 

I've followed the

to the letter to set up my Lua environment again and to get intellisense working. There are comments to the video regarding errors being received.

 

Error

 

[string 
'C:\Users\xxx\AppData\Local\Temp\/DCS~mis000000920']:4: attempt to index 'EVENT' (a nil value) slack traceback: 
                      [C]: ?
                      [string
'C:\users\xxx\AppData\Local\Temp\DCS\/~mis000000920']:4: in main chunk

 

I also get that error when trying to load the Moose.lua, which incidentally is now in a different location to the video C:\MOOSE-master\Moose Development\Moose, which is different to the video, however. In the comments, someone helpfully instructs us to use the correct Lua and points to download file. I've done this and instead of placing it in the development folder I've placed it in C:\MOOSE-master and loaded that into my mission it's working brilliantly.

 

My questions are this though.

1. Is there an issue with the original Lua or is to something to do with the file structure?

2. What happens to future updates? Will I just download the lua file and overwrite the one I was supplied by the helpful youtube guy.

3. Is this having any effect on my development environment as I won't be using the same lua as the moose master. If I overwrite the moose file in the development folder with the 2.4.1 version won't it be an old version. Everything seems to be working fine but will I be using the correct version? If I use the one in the development folder I always get the above error.

4. Are the issues being caused because I'm a noob? Have I done something wrong in the installation? bearing in mind I have used this before with success so am not totally green. I also went back over all the setup videos and guides and followed them to what I thought was the letter.

 

Sorry but I'm a noob with this so please go steady with the replies lol. Just as a side note there are a few links in the documentation website that need to be updated to point to the correct files. eg. The documentation here supplies a link for the latest version of moose but it takes me to the moose patch files on GitHub. It looks as if the moose master file has the latest version rather than the patch files nor is it clear how to get from the patch files to the moose release for a GitHub noob like me. Perhaps the website start-up guide would be better pointing to the master repository and a version number could be included there in the guide as well so that we can ensure we are getting the correct version from GitHub. I appreciate this all takes time but I think a few people may be put off from using what is really a fantastic system for the sake of the instructions?

 

Apologies for the length of the post

Edited January 10, 2019 by ICEVIPER
spelling and to update q.3

[Hardcard]

@ICEVIPER

 

1- There are two different types of Moose.lua as far as I know: "source version" and "include version".

If you try to load the "source version" in your missions, it'll generate the error you mentioned. The "source version" is the one included in the source code zip file for each MOOSE release, btw.

Always use the "source version" to set up LDT, the "include version" is the one you need to use in your missions.

 

 

2- Every time a new MOOSE release comes around, I do the following:

 

- I go to the MOOSE release section on Github

 

- I look for the latest release (first on the list)

 

- I download both the source code zip file and Moose.lua (which is the include version for that release)

 

- The source code zip file contains all that I need to set up LDT (including the source Moose.lua file, which mustn't be used in missions)

 

- I use the Moose.lua include version for that release in my missions (ie. the Moose.lua file that I downloaded separately from the release section)

 

 

3- I'm not sure I understand what you mean :huh:

Are you talking about setting up LDT using the latest MOOSE release as source?

Simply repeat the steps you followed the first time you set it up, but with the new build.

 

 

4- What issues are those exactly? The error you mentioned?

As I said, that happens when the "source version" Moose.lua is used instead of the "include version".

 

 

The docs page that you mentioned provides a link to the MOOSE release section, which is where you'll find the latest releases (forget about the "patch" bit, consider them full releases).

Edited January 11, 2019 by Hardcard

[Iceviper]

@Hardcard

 

Thanks so much for taking the time to reply. You make things much clearer. I'll take another look. I think I need to spend more time looking at GitHub. Things do look slightly different in the setup videos though and I'm not the only one who was caught out. I'll set things up again to ensure I'm using the correct versions.

 

By issue I only meant that error.No others

 

Thanks again. Cheers

Edited January 11, 2019 by ICEVIPER
Spelling

[Delta99]

I would suggest to start here: https://flightcontrol-master.github.io/MOOSE_DOCS/

 

I believe the structure of GitHub / releases has changed since the videos were produced. FlightControl would have to say for sure. I don't have time to go back and take a look. But that is probably why there is a disconnect.

 

The above link will have the info for the way things are currently setup.

 

There are also a couple of different ways you can use / setup your environment and Moose depending on what exactly you are interested in doing. Whether you want to setup the LDT, use the release or development versions etc etc.

 

If you haven't already, join the Discord as there are usually people online there that will give you hand as well.

 

And thanks to Hardcard for helping out

 

@Hardcard

 

Thanks so much for taking the time to reply. You make things much clearer. I'll take another look. I think I need to spend more time looking at GitHub. Things do look slightly different in the setup videos though and I'm not the only one who was caught out. I'll set things up again to ensure I'm using the correct versions.

 

By issue I only meant that error.No others

 

Thanks again. Cheers

[Iceviper]

Yeah it's the GitHub that threw me as I had no issues the last time I used it. I realise there's not enough hours in the day for developers to update videos and code as well. I'll take your recommendation and join the discord channel. Thanks for the reply.

[Delta99]

Yeah it's the GitHub that threw me as I had no issues the last time I used it. I realise there's not enough hours in the day for developers to update videos and code as well. I'll take your recommendation and join the discord channel. Thanks for the reply.

 

Yeah, depends how long ago you used it. Things have changed in the structure and the repositories have been broken into separate repositories. So not everything is in one place anymore.

[marginal]

Dual CAP script

 

This script works. I think part of the problem with my previous attempt was the type of redfor aircraft which flew in the area outside the engage zone were detecting the bluefor CAP coming up and setting up for attack by flying into the engage zone irregardless the track they were supposed to fly.

 

In this demo mission 2 enemy aircraft remain clear of the engage zone and 2 enter the zone. The two which enter are shot down, the two which remain clear are not shot down.

 

2 CAP aircraft groups will fly via this script. DODGE and CHEVY will launch depending on the triggers you've built in the mission editor. They won't engage aircraft that have not flown into the engage zone. Once the enemy aircraft have flown into the engage zone they will pursue and attack.

 

I'm planning on using this script to launch a CAP at mission start, then launch a second CAP later in the mission using whatever trigger is necessary.

 

I want to create more of a "big battle" environment by setting up similar scripts for SEAD and CAS aircraft as well as ground units.

DUAL CAP.lua

DUAL CAP.miz

[Hardcard]

The script you posted contains some interesting tricks, thanks for sharing! :thumbup:

 

 

 

Well-intentioned remark:

 

zone irregardless the track they were supposed to fly.

 

Irrespective = Not respective

 

Regardless = Without regard

 

Irrespective + Regardless = Irregardless (Double negative!)

 

Negative + negative = affirmative --> not + without = with

 

So...

 

Irregardless = not + without + respect/regard = WITH respect/regard

 

 

You can try mixing other synonyms of the same type in order to see the problem more clearly.

 

For instance:

 

- Irresponsible + Reckless = Irreckless?

 

Irreckless = not + without + responsibility/reck (aka care) = WITH responsibility/reck (aka care)

 

 

- Unkind + Heartless = Unheartless?

 

Unheartless = not + without + kindness/heart = WITH kindness/heart

 

 

-Unabashed + Shameless = Unshameless?

 

Unshameless = not + without + abashment/shame = WITH abashment/shame

 

 

-Unrepentant + Remorseless = Unremorseless?

 

Unremorseless = not + without + repentance/remorse = WITH repentance/remorse

 

etc.

 

Like scripting languages, actual languages are also governed by logic (for the most part :D)

 

 

[Habu_69]

Re DUAL CAP.lua: is it necessary to repeat the PatrolZone = ZONE:New() and EngageZoneGroup instantiations? If so, why?

[Delta99]

Re DUAL CAP.lua: is it necessary to repeat the PatrolZone = ZONE:New() and EngageZoneGroup instantiations? If so, why?

 

No.

 

Although an issue I see with this script is that the second AICapZone is definitely going to step on the 1st AICapZone. In other words it will be extremely lucky if CAP 1 will actually work properly. They might start out looking like it but at some point will likely break down.

 

Those global variables should be different. Also just notice CapPlane also clashes. This is ripe for breaking for certain. I am surprised if it works really. And it might seem to work for the initial stage but for any longer than that unlikely.

 

It would be fine to write the Patrol zone stuff once as I mentioned above. It is similar for both so no need to redefine it. Just wasting CPU cycles and redefining variables to be the exact same thing.

 

One further thing. The RTB and fuel settings that are part of AICAPZONE will likely override what you set in the editor. So I would test those as well. You can set both with methods on AICapZone.

Edited January 12, 2019 by Delta99

[Habu_69]

Hopefully marginal takes these comments as constructive criticism. I am not sure what he means by the comment "SET UNCONTROLLED" in the script file. Perhaps he means LATE ACTIVATION. The script comments also state: "In trigger menu: add "perform command - start"", which I do not understand.

 

 

I usually hesistate to comment on someone else's work, as I am certainly no expert. Yesterday I spent about 4 hours testing to determine why this code would not destroy MiG group:

 

 

BanditGrp21:Spawn()
 BanditGrp21:Destroy()

 

 

Finally discovered I needed a container:

 

TestBandit = BanditGrp21:Spawn()
TestBandit:Destroy()

:doh:

[Delta99]

Hopefully marginal takes these comments as constructive criticism.

 

Agreed, that is how they are intended.

[marginal]

Hopefully marginal takes these comments as constructive criticism. I am not sure what he means by the comment "SET UNCONTROLLED" in the script file. Perhaps he means LATE ACTIVATION. The script comments also state: "In trigger menu: add "perform command - start"", which I do not understand.

Nope, I mean "set uncontrolled" and "perform command - start". This is how I get the AI aircraft to spawn on mission start but do nothing until a "start" is triggered in mission editor usually by a time(more) but several methods to trigger the start could be used. I found that these two settings will allow me to do that.

 

 

I'm certainly no expert at lua coding, I'm modifying demo missions for my own use then running them thru ME.

 

 

 

The RTB and fuel settings that are part of AICAPZONE will likely override what you set in the editor. So I would test those as well. You can set both with methods on AICapZone.

I'd like to build RTB and fuel settings into the lua script and move away from having to do it in ME. Also build a time(more) delay into the lua. Can you show me how?

 

 

Thanks,

M

[Delta99]

Nope, I mean "set uncontrolled" and "perform command - start". This is how I get the AI aircraft to spawn on mission start but do nothing until a "start" is triggered in mission editor usually by a time(more) but several methods to trigger the start could be used. I found that these two settings will allow me to do that.

 

 

I'm certainly no expert at lua coding, I'm modifying demo missions for my own use then running them thru ME.

 

 

 

 

I'd like to build RTB and fuel settings into the lua script and move away from having to do it in ME. Also build a time(more) delay into the lua. Can you show me how?

 

 

Thanks,

M

 

There are many different ways to spawn based on logic or timing etc so it really depends on what you are really trying to accomplish. Using "set uncontrolled" and "perform command start" are likely going to mess with Moose as well. I wouldn't mix the two. But I could be wrong on that.

 

I would look at https://flightcontrol-master.github.io/MOOSE_DOCS/Documentation/Core.Spawn.html specifically the section on delaying the initial spawn. Might be useful to you.

 

Look here for managing fuel threshold: https://flightcontrol-master.github.io/MOOSE_DOCS/Documentation/AI.AI_Cap.html##(AI_CAP_ZONE).ManageFuel

[Tiramisu]

Is the newly announced dynamical campaigns system going to incorporate MOOSE? Or is ED going to develop something totally different?

[Chicki]

Hi guys. Does none of this stuff work in 1.5.8 anymore? I'm just trying to setup a simple CAP. They just fly to the WP and then RTB. Even in the test mission. Just wondering.