Su-27 toebrakes

[pepto]

i was just wondering why there isn't any axis command for toebraking because if i am not mistaken, the T-10S had them installed which carried over to the Su-27

either that or i just missed them :P

[blackbelter]

I am a bit curious. What difference does a toe-brake axis make, compared to what we have now in Su-27?

[pepto]

i mean not a WHOLE lot but it's still just nice for authenticity, plus it's one less button to take up space on your joystick or throttle

[blackbelter]

i mean not a WHOLE lot but it's still just nice for authenticity, plus it's one less button to take up space on your joystick or throttle

 

I see... I use software provided by Saitek to map the W key to the brake axis of my Saitek Combat pedals. Works just fine...

 

Of course, with toe-brake axis implemented, I could just assign it in DCS options UI. A bit more convenient I guess.

[escaner]

I also map W to the pedal toebrakes, but you don't have differential braking (not sure whether the acual plane has it) and you only get that "on" or "off" unrealistic braking.

[Nooch]

It would definitely make a difference. Blowing the tires all the time on the Su 27 is super anoying.

 

I would like to be able to modulate the braking, as pressing "W" applies full brakes and stops the aircraft violently. Many times I happened to blow the tires up on my Su-27 (especially when heavily loaded) as the braking was too strong.

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=130265

[7rooper]

This is problem or a bug they need to solve in a next patch: Being able to asign an axis to wheel brake in the Su-27

[ShuRugal]

It would definitely make a difference. Blowing the tires all the time on the Su 27 is super anoying.

 

 

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=130265

 

This. I want the ability to brake at speeds above 40kph without blowing tires.

[rrohde]

+1

 

Definitely need a brake axis.

[Vortex225]

Just for reference, this topic has been discussed before. I'm not trying to give anyone a hard time; however, the thread may answer some of your questions.

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=133519

[OB1]

The real Su-27 does not have toe brakes, so what is portrayed is realistic other that the fact in the real 27 you can apply break pressure to your satisfaction.

 

The 27 has a break handle. After learning about it myself I actually prefer the design over common western differential toe brake design. You apply brake pressure via the brake handle and manage the distribution of brake pressure using your rudder pedals.

 

The closest setup it would be say on a HOTAS Warthog would be the pinky leaver on the stick unfortunately its only a button and not an axis and of course as mentioned before we need the option to bind to an axis.

 

For more info on this refer here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=134099

 

edit: Or last link provided in previous post...

Edited February 7, 2015 by OB1

[blackbelter]

As things are, the fastest way to blow Su-27's tires is to hold down the W key or the rudder pedals while taxiing. Even for speeds around 30km/h.

 

Instead, brake in a press-release-press-release pattern. Try it and you will see.

[ShuRugal]

As i recall, that topic conclusive determined that the SU-27S not only has the ability to apply brakes incrementally (just like every other vehicle ever invented...) but it does, in fact, have differential to-braking.

 

However, nothing was ever said as to when the DCS Flanker is getting these critical and tire-saving features, so opening a new thread to raise awareness is perfectly appropriate.

[Nedum]

The real Su-27 does not have toe brakes, so what is portrayed is realistic other that the fact in the real 27 you can apply break pressure to your satisfaction.

 

The 27 has a break handle. After learning about it myself I actually prefer the design over common western differential toe brake design. You apply brake pressure via the brake handle and manage the distribution of brake pressure using your rudder pedals.

 

The closest setup it would be say on a HOTAS Warthog would be the pinky leaver on the stick unfortunately its only a button and not an axis and of course as mentioned before we need the option to bind to an axis.

 

For more info on this refer here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=134099

 

edit: Or last link provided in previous post...

 

Wrong as already cleared.

The only Su27 without toe breaks was a very early test Su27.

The real Su27 has 2 break systems. Toe breaks and a switch for the front break to boost the engine up till start.