Su-27 Wheel Brake Axes

Apologies if this has been resolved elsewhere, but I could not find anything regarding wheel brake axes for the Su-27 PFM. Does the aircraft currently have this capability in the latest Open Beta?

I really don't want to bind "w" to the toe axes of my rudder pedals for a PFM aircraft.

Yeah, same. The F-15C has axis brakes, no reason why the Su-27 can't have them. In fact I honestly don't know why all of them don't have it available. It can't be that hard to program in.

the real plane dont have toe brakes.

Yeah, same. The F-15C has axis brakes, no reason why the Su-27 can't have them. In fact I honestly don't know why all of them don't have it available. It can't be that hard to program in.

Probably because Sukhoi's don't have toe brakes.

Probably because Sukhoi's don't have toe breaks.

I'm glad I asked the question, because I didn't know they were designed without toe brakes.

With this knowledge, what's the best (i.e., most realistic) way to implement them with a TM HOTAS setup? How do the actual Flanker pilots activate their wheel brakes?

I'm glad I asked the question, because I didn't know they were designed without toe brakes.

 

With this knowledge, what's the best (i.e., most realistic) way to implement them with a TM HOTAS setup? How do the actual Flanker pilots activate their wheel brakes?

I want to say it's the pinky button on the back side of their stick, or maybe it's the pinky lever? I can't remember for certain, but I am sure someone who is much more knowledgeable than myself will chime in with the answer.

Actually guys you are wrong. SU-27 does have toe brakes, it does not use brake lever like in Mig-21.

Start looking at 54:32 :)

So the real plane has toe brakes, then we can expect it to be in release PFM version then as dual-axis (they tested both toe brakes)?

What i heard/read some where there are toe brakes in latest su-27 in real world. The one we have su-27 in game is older one which don't have toe brakes.

I want to say it's the pinky button on the back side of their stick, or maybe it's the pinky lever? I can't remember for certain, but I am sure someone who is much more knowledgeable than myself will chime in with the answer.

On the Stick's "pinky switch" there is a line up brake, not sure if this is for take off only.

i always thought there were no toe brakes, but it seems there is. Anyone?

No matter if toe brakes or not.

The Su-27 doesn't have a "button" for brakes, that applies 100% brakes when pressed as in DSC: World, or release brakes when not pressing the button, so an axis is a must in DCS: World.

In an AFM model anyway.

So we just have to be patient for an update:)

According to the change log,

F-15C, Su-27. Wheel brakes in controls indicator are added

which should indicate that brakes will have an axis.

No matter if toe brakes or not.

The Su-27 doesn't have a "button" for brakes, that applies 100% brakes when pressed as in DSC: World, or release brakes when not pressing the button, so an axis is a must in DCS: World.

 

In an AFM model anyway.

I agree.

According to the change log,

 

 

 

which should indicate that brakes will have an axis.

funny thing is I didnt see that yet. but Like people are saying still w.i.p. so last thing to do is wait.

On the Stick's "pinky switch" there is a line up brake, not sure if this is for take off only.

i always thought there were no toe brakes, but it seems there is. Anyone?

Well it seems that Flankers were the first Sukhoi's to have toe brakes added (who knew :music_whistling:), so hopefully they will get added in for a future patch :thumbup:

It would seem we've come full circle in this discussion. Thanks for the information, everyone. I'm happy to wait for the brake axes, I just wanted to know if the wait was meaningful or not.

the real plane dont have toe brakes.

Toe brakes and a brake axis are very different things. Russian planes have traditionally used a lever on the stick to apply overall brakes and while rudder pedals apply a differential to the brakes. DCS: MiG-21 models this very well, as do the planes in IL2:BoS. Regardless of which system is used, the ability to apply brakes on all planes via an axis is a must on any new or updated FM. I don't know of any plane where brakes are a simple on/off toggle.

i agree.

What i heard/read some where there are toe brakes in latest su-27 in real world. The one we have su-27 in game is older one which don't have toe brakes.

That means all production Su-27 had braking paddels and the su-27S is NOT a pre-production prototype.

I would love to see an axis for breaking as well. Please make it so. :)

Now that it is released what is the situation folks? Cheers.

Heya MOWER,

Just left BMS long enough to test out my SU27 AFM and then I noticed I had no axes for toe braking. Dual throttles on the WartHog is perfect, but no toe brake for my Saitek Combat Pro USB rudders.

Until they add axes, its probably a key mapping workaround.

Still very disturbing, though. I'm trying to get back into this wonderful Sim, now that the su 27 AFM is released and things like the absence of the breaking axis make me feel a bit sad. Looking forward to a fix. :)