OT: A-320 Airbus crash near Sochi

[Ironhand]

Just ran across this news item from the Regnum News Agency: A-320 Airbus crash near Sochi. Thought I'd pass it on due to the location.

 

Rich

[NEODARK]

Yeah,

 

It was in the front page of CNN this morning, sadly it seems over 130 passengers & crew died. Preliminars indicate it was due toa bad storm.

[Force_Feedback]

I would say CFIT, don't think it was windshear. My condoleances to everyone possibly involved.

 

Let's hope it was'n a software fluke or something wrong with the design.

[chris2802]

OK I have a question. How is the A-320 'fly by wire' compared to other aircraft? Surely all aircraft with hydraulic control surfaces that size activate them via electrical impulses from the controls? The whole system can't be totally hydraulic including the control columns? Or is it?

 

-Chris

[capttrob]

Another sad day in aviation. I just saw this news on another website. My Russian friends will be in my prayers. Godspeed to pax and crew!

[BladeLWS]

OK I have a question. How is the A-320 'fly by wire' compared to other aircraft? Surely all aircraft with hydraulic control surfaces that size activate them via electrical impulses from the controls? The whole system can't be totally hydraulic including the control columns? Or is it?

 

-Chris

Airbus' controls go from the stick, to the computer, and the computer controls the control surfaces. This is to prevent overstressing the airframe.

 

In a Boeing controls go from the control column directly to the control surfaces, there is no computer in between.

 

IMHO I'd rather have Boeings flight controls than Airbus'. If I have to pull up real hard to avoid a mid air or something, the Airbus' computer won't allow the airframe to be stressed, but the Boeing's surfaces will move from YOUR control input, not the computers.

 

But thats because Airbus uses a sidestick like a F-16 would, its completly FBW, Boeings are only partial.

[capttrob]

Airbus' controls go from the stick, to the computer, and the computer controls the control surfaces. This is to prevent overstressing the airframe.

 

In a Boeing controls go from the control column directly to the control surfaces, there is no computer in between.

 

IMHO I'd rather have Boeings flight controls than Airbus'. If I have to pull up real hard to avoid a mid air or something, the Airbus' computer won't allow the airframe to be stressed, but the Boeing's surfaces will move from YOUR control input, not the computers.

 

But thats because Airbus uses a sidestick like a F-16 would, its completly FBW, Boeings are only partial.

 

Everything above is completely false. Sorry Blade... ;)

 

You want a good explaination chris? Go here.... http://forums.flightinfo.com/forumdisplay.php?f=13 and ask the same question in the same humble manner. Hope you find what you're looking for.....

[britgliderpilot]

Everything above is completely false. Sorry Blade... ;)

 

You want a good explaination chris? Go here.... http://forums.flightinfo.com/forumdisplay.php?f=13 and ask the same question in the same humble manner. Hope you find what you're looking for.....

 

. . . . . that's a little unfair, it's actually not TOO far from the truth . . . .

 

 

Change the "there is no computer in between" to "it does have a computer , but that doesn't have ultimate say in what happens" . . . . and it's closer still.

[Hawg11]

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/boe202.shtml

 

"But there has been much discussion in aviation circles, he said, about the Boeing 757 that crashed into a mountain ridge while trying to land at Cali, Colombia, in 1995. All 159 people on the jet were killed.

 

The plane's ground-warning system alerted the crew they were about to hit the mountain, but the crew did not retract the plane's speed brakes as they tried to climb. They hit the mountain ridge about 250 feet from the top.

 

The speed brakes on an A320 would have been retracted automatically, Airbus points out."

[Pilotasso]

how bad was the weather? I have donne my share of violent airline finals myself IRL. Those things dont just get downed like that.

[mikoyan]

The cali accident was because pilot error , they got lost , after that they set the oproach uncorrectly on the computer. I saw a helicopters everywere looking for the plane. Another factor was the lost of the traffic control radar because irregular groups (frarc) destroyed the radar weeks before the accident, so the traffic controller was unable to see the airplane on the the radar.

[Cobra360]

Speaking of A320 accidents, one A320 had an emergency landing at Dublin airport last night at 8:00pm GMT. As it was on finals ATC could see smoke and fire coming from the tail. The fire was caused by an electrical fault in the APU. The fire was quickly put out on landing and all 97 passangers were safe.

[Ironhand]

how bad was the weather? I have donne my share of violent airline finals myself IRL. Those things dont just get downed like that.

It was reported yesterday that the a/c was initially waved off because of a torrential downpour and it crashed while going around from the aborted landing. A "Georgian in the control tower" (that's how the report referred to him) claimed the a/c was caught in a waterspout. That last might not be true. But it all suggests some pretty heavy weather moving through.

 

Rich