Arbitrator Posted May 11, 2006 Posted May 11, 2006 holy smoking! couldn't believe it! look at this!http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/10/dual_41_ghz_cores/ if it's real as they say, then i think i just wasted $400 on upgrading my system.:cry: please prove me wrong. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Home address: 81°28W, 29°85N Don't try to Waste Your Bombs and Missiles BC They are More Expensive.
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted May 11, 2006 Posted May 11, 2006 Yeah, I read the article this morning. Amazing indeed! Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Guest Cali Posted May 11, 2006 Posted May 11, 2006 If it's true, then I'm getting me one as soon as it hits the shelf!!! oops its a intel :(
nscode Posted May 11, 2006 Posted May 11, 2006 If it's true, it's not intel... if it's intel, it's not true :) Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
Floyd Posted May 11, 2006 Posted May 11, 2006 While the synthetic benchmark shows an increase from 4972 to 7671, the 3D benchmark raises from 85 to 97 fps. Is that worth the effort? "People can come up with statistics to prove anything; 14 percent of people know that." - Bart Simpson
Dudikoff Posted May 11, 2006 Posted May 11, 2006 While the synthetic benchmark shows an increase from 4972 to 7671, the 3D benchmark raises from 85 to 97 fps. Is that worth the effort? Well, yes if you look at FPS games which are mostly GPU dependant. It would be interesting to see LockOn numbers - if it's up there with the strongest CPUs, it's a bargain. i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
Force_Feedback Posted May 11, 2006 Posted May 11, 2006 lomac's fps would rise from 24 to 28 ;) Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy:
Stealth_HR Posted May 11, 2006 Posted May 11, 2006 While the synthetic benchmark shows an increase from 4972 to 7671, the 3D benchmark raises from 85 to 97 fps. Is that worth the effort? Not exactly. No Windows OS up to date can fully utilize multi-core CPUs, so no game can actually benefit from it. I'd sit tight and wait for AMD to deploy their "dualcore-acting-as-one" CPU series. If they can nail it right, any current and past game (LOMAC included) would get a tremendous boost. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Real men fly ground attack :pilotfly: where EVERYTHING wants a piece of you :D
Floyd Posted May 11, 2006 Posted May 11, 2006 Not exactly. No Windows OS up to date can fully utilize multi-core CPUs, so no game can actually benefit from it. IIRC all versions of Falcon 4 benefit from multiple core CPUs: http://forums.frugalsworld.com/vbb/showpost.php?p=1128116&postcount=8 I'm using an AMD 4400+ X2 and can confirm the improvements.
diveplane Posted May 11, 2006 Posted May 11, 2006 running dual core here intel , pentium d at 2.8 stock till game dev teams and windows makes better use off the dual core field , in the meantime the dual cores are great for multitask .....operations... i can easliy alt tab or ctrl esc out off lockon with no wait time, and launch another program in the back ground look at email and surf /........all at the same time while lockon runs .... on my old 3gig pentium 4 single core this was a headache, and long wait time.... any not using dual core i recommend the cpus , https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding.
NEODARK Posted May 11, 2006 Posted May 11, 2006 its only a 4Ghz speed? I dont see whats the big deal.. Wait for conroe and AMD's answer to it if you want a decent jump/.
Shaman Posted May 11, 2006 Posted May 11, 2006 lomac's fps would rise from 24 to 28 ;) Or even raise from 24 to 23 :music_whistling: 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer
SwingKid Posted May 11, 2006 Posted May 11, 2006 It would be interesting to see LockOn numbers - if it's up there with the strongest CPUs, it's a bargain. I don't know about Black Shark, but Lock On and Flaming Cliffs are mainly GPU dependent for their speed. I think they also run better on Intel-based systems, compared to most other software. The reason why I can still run Flaming Cliffs on a 500 MHz Win98 machine is because I have a graphics card with 128 MB. -SK
ALDEGA Posted May 11, 2006 Posted May 11, 2006 Not exactly. No Windows OS up to date can fully utilize multi-core CPUs, so no game can actually benefit from it. I'd sit tight and wait for AMD to deploy their "dualcore-acting-as-one" CPU series. If they can nail it right, any current and past game (LOMAC included) would get a tremendous boost.How can Windows not fully use multi-core CPU's? What happened to NT Kernel SMP support?
Dudikoff Posted May 11, 2006 Posted May 11, 2006 I don't know about Black Shark, but Lock On and Flaming Cliffs are mainly GPU dependent for their speed. I think they also run better on Intel-based systems, compared to most other software. The reason why I can still run Flaming Cliffs on a 500 MHz Win98 machine is because I have a graphics card with 128 MB. -SK You're right. But I'd like to add that a weaker processor doesn't let the GPU give it's full potential. Most of the missions have a limited number of units so the benefits of a stronger CPU are not so obvious. i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
Stealth_HR Posted May 11, 2006 Posted May 11, 2006 How can Windows not fully use multi-core CPU's? What happened to NT Kernel SMP support? It has to be application-supported as well. Otherwise, anyone with an X2 CPU and Win2K or NT (which share the NT5.1 kernel) would get an immediate performance boost in every apsect - which they don't. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Real men fly ground attack :pilotfly: where EVERYTHING wants a piece of you :D
MonnieRock Posted May 12, 2006 Posted May 12, 2006 At 2048x1536x32 resolution, I find lockon's performance directly proportional to the cpu speed. Dual Core Poll Please Vote Rack Rig: Rosewill RSV-L4000 | Koolance ERM-3K3UC | Xeon E5-1680 v2 @ 4.9ghz w/EK Monoblock | Asus Rampage IV Black Edition | 64GB 2133mhz | SLI TitanXP w/ EK Waterblocks | 2x Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB | Seasonic 1000w Titanium | Windows 10 Pro 64bit | TM Warthog HOTAS w/40cm Extension | MFG Crosswind Rudders | Obutto R3volution | HP Reverb
TucksonSonny Posted May 13, 2006 Posted May 13, 2006 holy smoking! couldn't believe it! look at this!http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/10/dual_41_ghz_cores/ if it's real as they say, then i think i just wasted $400 on upgrading my system.:cry: please prove me wrong. It is just a choice! 1) We use a $133 CPU together with $900 for cooling and power supply (running CPU@200Watt)! 2) Or we use a $1000 CPU (running CPU@105Watt)! And with stock cooling. 3) Or we use a $1000 CPU together with $900 for cooling and power supply and we will always outperform solution (1). DELL Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 940 2,93 GHz @3 GHz, 8 MB cache | 8.192 MB 1.067 MHz Tri Channel DDR3 | 512 MB ATI® Radeon™ 4850 | 500 GB 7200 rpm Serial ATA | Samsung SM 2693 HM 25.5 " | HOTAS Cougar Thrustmaster |
Crusty Posted May 13, 2006 Posted May 13, 2006 It is just a choice! 1) We use a $133 CPU together with $900 for cooling and power supply (running CPU@200Watt)! 2) Or we use a $1000 CPU (running CPU@105Watt)! And with stock cooling. 3) Or we use a $1000 CPU together with $900 for cooling and power supply and we will always outperform solution (1). You dont need $900 cooling in this example and the cpu costs about $80, please explain more about this $133 cpu with $900 cooling, sounds like something you just made up oo err...missus:animals_bunny: ** Anti-Pastie**
TucksonSonny Posted May 13, 2006 Posted May 13, 2006 You dont need $900 cooling in this example and the cpu costs about $80, please explain more about this $133 cpu with $900 cooling, sounds like something you just made up Ok, The Pentium D 802 was running @225 Watt full load for @ 4.1Ghz! Do you realize that this will produce an absurd amount of heat and would be melting your CPU on stock cooling! I challenge you that you can find an extra power supply and (water)-cooling system under $800. Ok, maybe a little overkill but anyway: Example: Total $848 ($399+$449) - CoolIT Freezone: $399 (complete water cooling system) - Pc Power and Cooling (T85SSI) 850-Watt Power Supply: $449 (Introducing the Turbo-Cool® 850 SSI, the biggest, baddest power supply available for next-gen computers! With a form factor that fits standard ATX cases, the Turbo-Cool® 850 SSI power supply produces 950W of peak power, handles brownouts down to 80VA) DELL Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 940 2,93 GHz @3 GHz, 8 MB cache | 8.192 MB 1.067 MHz Tri Channel DDR3 | 512 MB ATI® Radeon™ 4850 | 500 GB 7200 rpm Serial ATA | Samsung SM 2693 HM 25.5 " | HOTAS Cougar Thrustmaster |
ALDEGA Posted May 13, 2006 Posted May 13, 2006 It has to be application-supported as well. Otherwise, anyone with an X2 CPU and Win2K or NT (which share the NT5.1 kernel) would get an immediate performance boost in every apsect - which they don't.Obviously, but it was claimed that NT didn't support SMP, which it has for over a decade. My response was to the following text (as you can see in my previous post): No Windows OS up to date can fully utilize multi-core CPUs, so no game can actually benefit from it. Which is an incorrect statement. Feel free to rephrase your statement ;) ... and Win2K or NT (which share the NT5.1 kernel) ... NT5.1 = Windows XP ...
Stealth_HR Posted May 13, 2006 Posted May 13, 2006 Feel free to rephrase your statement ;) If I did, it wouldn't keep proof of me being wrong, so let's keep it like that. :music_whistling: NT5.1 = Windows XP ... Also true, however I think they got the version numbers mixed up, NTOSKRNL 5.1 isn't exactly an upgrade over Win2K, more of its diametrical opposite. :smilewink: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Real men fly ground attack :pilotfly: where EVERYTHING wants a piece of you :D
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