Kenan Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 Source: http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/05/23/greece.crash/index.html ATHENS, Greece (CNN) -- Two fighter jets, one Greek and the other Turkish, collided in mid-air Tuesday in international waters over the southern Aegean Sea and the fate of both pilots is unclear, according to the Greek Defense Ministry. The Greek F-16 had been dispatched to intercept the Turkish jet because it had violated Greek airspace, the ministry said. Both fighter jets were maneuvering around each other in a mock dogfight when the crash happened around 1 p.m. (6 a.m. ET) about 12 miles off the coast of the Greek island of Karpathos, the ministry said. (Click here to see map of area) Rescue crews have been dispatched to the area. The Turkish defense ministry was not immediately available for comment. Archrivals Greece and Turkey regularly criticize each other for causing mock fights between warplanes over the Aegean sea. Greece's defense ministry says it daily scrambles several fighter jets to intercept Turkish jets that it claims have invaded its airspace. The two countries, who came close to war as recently as 1996, have considerably improved ties but have not resolved territorial disputes in the Aegean Sea and over the divided island of Cyprus. Journalist Anthee Carassava contributed to this report Damn..I think they were just too close to each other, doing some crazy manouvers, when it happened. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commanding Officer of: 2nd Company 1st financial guard battalion "Mrcine" See our squads here and our . Croatian radio chat for DCS World
Guest Hell Sqn Protos Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 S~! Typical Turkish crap. Look at the map, does that look like Turk airspace? Greek F16C vs Turk F16C with the usual results ! Yeah I am Proud !
Alfa Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 Protos, Let me point you to our forum rules: http://www.forum.lockon.ru/showthread.php?t=7863 ...this line in particular: * Expressions of racism, nationalism, political or religious extremism. This is forum is of an international nature and we will not tolerate any kind of inflamatory political or nationalistic comments. - JJ. JJ
Kenan Posted May 23, 2006 Author Posted May 23, 2006 To be honest, by listening to the dialouge, it seems to me both sides were actually "enjoying" the mock combat as this was not the first time they've done this (as reported in the article). Especially the part "Tell them we go on with the engage..". The last one turned out to be fatal as one of the pilots may have been bit too hotheaded in the turns.. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commanding Officer of: 2nd Company 1st financial guard battalion "Mrcine" See our squads here and our . Croatian radio chat for DCS World
dynamocl Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 the scene out of top gun where "hte bird" signal was used comes to mind. However unfortunatly it sounds like they got too close. I bet it is fun doing that sort of stuff, after all 95% of military flying is boredom, 5% sheer terror. I guess these guys were up for a firendly dog fight, no matter how upset it made the parent nations.
504Goon Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 Err.. dialogue? Link? edit: doh...:) 504th CO http://www.vvs504.co.uk
Guest Hell Sqn Protos Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 S~! There is no engagement unless someone violates another Country's airspace. You only need to look at the map to figure out who violated which airspace. As for the hotheaded, maybe......... or maybe one of them just sucked.
F l a n k e r Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 This is not a good day for the F-16: two Italian F-16 crashed in a mid-air collision during a multinational air combat training exercise in Sardinia, near Cagliari. The two pilots are unharmed and safe.
Guest Hell Sqn Protos Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 S~! Wow, bad day indeed. But at least pilots are safe :thumbup:
Guest Hell Sqn Protos Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 S~! Well the Turk made it - with the help of the racist, nationalist Greeks of course ................ http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/afx/2006/05/23/afx2766132.html No word on the Greek pilot yet :(
NEODARK Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 it's a big ass sky, it's amuzing how two pilots can manage to colide in it. (they probably watched TopGun one too many times)
Force_Feedback Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 I think they either collided and the cockpit section of the Greek F-16 was hit, or they collided and a Sidewinder on the wingtip exploded, causing severe damage to both planes, but more for the Greek one. I don't know how the aim-9 fuse arming works, but I guess severe compression can cause an explosion. Lets hope the Greek pilot made it out and everything worked well. Stop all this hostility on the forums towards Greeks/Turks, you sound like an upset kid. Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy:
Guest Cali Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 S~! Wow, bad day indeed. But at least pilots are safe :thumbup: Not starting off to good huh 30 posts and 20% on the warm meter.
Shaman Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 it's a big ass sky, it's amuzing how two pilots can manage to colide in it. (they probably watched TopGun one too many times) You just don't know what you are talking about, do you? :bash: Tell it to my collegue who lost his father because of mid-air collision during routine dogfight training. He didn't even had a chance to eject because he was already decapitated. Both pilots had master class, and they really didn't have time to watch lame TopGun. Is the Greek pilot okey? 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer
GGTharos Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 He hasn't been recovered yet ... he's likely dead. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
NEODARK Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 You just don't know what you are talking about, do you? :bash: Tell it to my collegue who lost his father because of mid-air collision during routine dogfight training. He didn't even had a chance to eject because he was already decapitated. Both pilots had master class, and they really didn't have time to watch lame TopGun. uhm, like this: :rotflmao: PS: have fun, live a little. Not all is serious all the time ;)
Pilotasso Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 In a scissors fight you can esely get too close specialy if both pilots are confident. I have seen this a large number of times in all SIM's I have ever played. .
Pilgrim Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 I read in swedish media that they recovered the greek pilots body. I guess next time the greeks will fire for effect. ASUS P4T533-C|P4 3.06@3.45|1024Mb Kingston 1066 rambus|ATI 9.... *EDITED* - Listen to Mods!!!
GGTharos Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 Nope. This isn't the first time that such an incident has occured - it was really just a matter of time before it turned into an accident. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
nscode Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 Yes... there is a video shot from ground of such a "fight" from a few weeks ago. Seen it on tv, don't got teh l1nk Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
Kenan Posted May 23, 2006 Author Posted May 23, 2006 Yes... there is a video shot from ground of such a "fight" from a few weeks ago. Seen it on tv, don't got teh l1nk Well, g3t t3h d4mn l1nk! :cheer3nc: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commanding Officer of: 2nd Company 1st financial guard battalion "Mrcine" See our squads here and our . Croatian radio chat for DCS World
Shaman Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 uhm, like this: :rotflmao: PS: have fun, live a little. Not all is serious all the time ;) Sorry man. Just got kinda like :cry: when saw your post. Thought what you said is not right in this case - remember it is a human loss. Somebody's dad will not come home tonight. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer
GGTharos Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 Quote from BBC: Turkish Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul conveyed his country's condolences to his Greek counterpart Dora Bakoyanni in a telephone conversation, the foreign ministry in Ankara said. "The two foreign ministers expressed their regret at today's incident and agreed that this should not affect the two countries' efforts to improve their relations," a Greek foreign ministry statement said. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Guest Hell Sqn Protos Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 I guess next time the greeks will fire for effect. You know that no Hellenic Pilot will go down like that again. At the very least he is going to take someone with him. :thumbup:
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