Realistic repair times?

[panther494th]

theres a balance to be had here . id strap on a new jet and go. a week in the pub waiting for a repair wood kill me

[Cool Breeze]

How I would like to see it in the sim, is that if you land, it would save a spare airframe, and on next resupply of that airbase, that damaged airframe was restored. But if you ejected, and the airframe was destroyed/lost, you would lose that spare airframe for the remainder of the mission. In a MP session you virtually could run out of A-10Cs.

What if we landed said aircraft intact in a road or field? Could we call up a heavy lift transport helicopter and take it back to base for the airframe credit?

[Snoopy]

:megalol:

theres a balance to be had here . id strap on a new jet and go. a week in the pub waiting for a repair wood kill me

 

A pilot wouldn't be sitting around, they would get their required crew rest and fly again.

[Red Dragon-DK]

A lot of new pilots, would simply make more mistakes, and feel its unfair, loose interests and leave for good. In my opinion ED have made a fine solutions as it is now.

[Shadow_1stVFW]

What do you mean?

 

Maybe I wasn't clear, my point is if you get a time penalty for repair then people would likely not bother to land, just eject and take another aircraft.the

I think the game should provide incentives to land.

I'm saying the say thing. But adding an incentive for putting yourself in a safe ejection envolope and surviving an ejection, or for landing with a critically damaged airframe and walking away from it.

 

I'm saying to give incentives for actually not killing yourself or jumping out of the slot and reentering.

[Chann3l]

Realism in the mundane...is mundane. There is a point where realism removes any incentive to play at all. Realism in all aspects of combat and flight? Great, having to wait days to get back in a damaged plane when you can just hit r ctrl shift tab? Not so great. You could always make it more realistic for yourself by landing a damaged plane and not playing the game for an appropriate amount of time if you like though.

[goodpoints]

Hmmm, I am not fond of that realy.

 

So people who have lower skill level and loose airplanes would make other users loose ability to play the game?

 

What if somebody joined a mission and lost 3x A-10s and there are no more A-10s but he has still some F15s and he is still playing... but other people that have only A-10 as a module are now depraved of gameplay because of somebody poorly handling airplanes during a mission? I find that disturbing

 

It would work well with a premade event. But in a normal MP brawl? That has a potential to segregate people after their skill level and bring hostilities between players that want to fly a particullar airplane but it was wasted by a bunch of "noobs":book:

 

I can also see issues with it in MP, but it would be a great idea to incorporate into SP campaigns. Wings over Flanders Fields gives each squadron an allotment of active and reserve aircraft and uses realistic repair times. Creates some great tension when you get damage or systems failure and have to gamble between saving your plane or your life. Of course there's no real dynamic campaigns in DCS, but adding this kind of feature into longer campaigns like say, Georgian Oil War, would encourage more cautious flying and make the campaign feel a lot more alive.

[Python]

I think even a hardcore sim like this needs to find a balance between realism and fun/convenience. Even basic repairs could take hours, maybe days. You could always just pause it if you really want tho sit twiddling your thumbs for a realistic amount of time. I'm not sure anybody else would wish to do the same. I would rather have a visual ground crew myself.

[spaceraver]

When my dad flew F-100 the mechanics changed the tail end of one of the aircraft in the middle of the night. Shenanigans back then. And very hard to explain to the Chief why your tail number suddenly has a different squadron on it. So it can be done, but I don't think it translates good into a simulator.

There are scripts in place on the server I play at the moment where you have a fixed number of times you can get a new aircraft. But if you can rtb the airframe gets swapped to a new one. It works wonders for gameplay..

[xjiks]

What if you have to wait before you can respawn, and the more you respawn, the more you wait to get a fresh aircraft, example :

 

first death = 60 secs before respawn

first eject and survive = 30 secs before respawn

Land at base, go to parking and respawn = no delay

second and future deaths add 10 seconds

second and future eject and survive add 5 seconds

for each land at base, go to parking and respawn = reduce 5 seconds to delay

 

after being killed twice in a row player waits 70 seconds to respawn

but if then the next aircraft is landed, delay becomes 65 seconds

 

 

 

so after a couple of kills, eject and respawn the amount of time before respawn increases making the player be more carefull of the plane he's riding ?

 

(of course delays can be adjusted in the mission editor)

Edited September 21, 2015 by xjiks

[lanmancz]

(of course delays can be adjusted in the mission editor)

 

Or turned off hopefully. I don't see myself using this feature in my SP or MP missions at all. Waiting around 60+ seconds for respawn is neither fun nor realistic and thus pointless in my opinion.

This whole thread is a bit pointless in my opinion. Some "realistic repair times" might be useful if DCS was a grand war strategy game like Hearts of iron with a dynamic campaign where you as a commander had limited resources to reach your goals but in a mission based flight sim I don't see any use of such feature.

[xjiks]

we're just thinking about a way to give some value to a "life" in a simulator, because some people just jump in a plane, fly as bad as possible and recover within seconds, take off and repeat, which can be boring for other people in the same server