hoochiekoo Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Here is the current updated version of pages 8-101. Please let us know if you find any errors or odd-sounding sentences. Will ED release the new version of user manual from page 1 to 226 in new layout as in the "update version of page 8-101" will be very much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derelor Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Will ED release the new version of user manual from page 1 to 226 in new layout as in the "update version of page 8-101" will be very much appreciated. Yes, that is the goal. 1338 - beyond leet ED Forum rules EN|DE|RU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lino_Germany Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 ED manual page 177, 179 For flying in glide path mode is necessary: • check is course pointer is set to landing course; • «LANDING- NAVIG- GLIDE PATH» mode selector switch set to «GLIDE PATH»; • course deviation pointer on RMI and ADI bank steering pointer show airplane position relative to RSBN beacon; • glideslope deviation pointer on RMI and pitch steering pointer on ADI show airplane position relative to glide path trajectory. • PPD-2 indicates distance to RSBN beacon. We have two different terms (heading deviation pointer / course deviation pointer) for the same component of the RMI. Which one is correct? Kind regards, Lino_Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lino_Germany Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 ED manual, page 178 Krymsk and Mozdok airfield have PRMG equipment for landing from both directions. Pilots must know position of a RSBN beacon and take it into account while approaching airfield and performing landing approach. One must remember that landing course depends on window direction set in the mission editor. To ease navigation during airfield approaching and landing The "window direction" should be read "wind direction". Kind regards, Lino_Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lino_Germany Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 ED manual, page 180 D= 6 km, corresponds to altitude of 300 m, extend gears at 44°, maintain speed of 260 km/h; "gears" has to be changed to "flaps". Kind regards, Lino_Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derelor Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Guys, can anyone explain to me the following highlighted sentence from p. 1-112 of the real flight manual: A combined double filament landing/taxi light is mounted to the tip of each wing tip tank. The difference between these lights is that the landing light filament beam covers a larger all-round pattern.The way I understand it: 2. Two landing/taxi lights: one combined landing/taxi light with two filaments is mounted to the tip of each wing tip tank. The difference between landing and taxi lights is the width of the light beam. Taxi lights have a wide beam, because they illuminate the runway / taxiway while moving on the ground during darkness and provide illumination just in front of the nose. Landing lights have a narrower beam, because they are used to illuminate the terrain and runway ahead during takeoff and landing from greater distances. 1338 - beyond leet ED Forum rules EN|DE|RU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lino_Germany Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) If we work on the premise that the original Aero L-39 manual is error-free, the problem is the definition of "larger all-round pattern". 1. Landing light filament Aero manual: Landing light filament beam covers a larger all-round pattern. When set to "LAND.", the landing lights remain on irrespectively of the landing gear position. Using the LANDING lights on the ground or during taxi is not recommended longer then 3 sec due to lamp overheat. Simulation: We have a narrow beam with landing light on. It remains switched on, even if the landing gear is retracted. 2. Taxi light filament Aero manual: When set to "TAX.", a terminal switch causes the taxi lights to go off automatically upon landing gear retraction. Simulation: Wide beam. Taxi light goes off with retraction of the landing gear. All in all I think your elaboration is perfectly okay, because it gives an idea of what "larger all-round pattern" could mean. It is a pleasure to see that someone equalizes the partly bulky sections of the manual. The community will be grateful, me too. Edited November 23, 2015 by Lino_Germany Kind regards, Lino_Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pindol Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 the exact landing and taxi lights are ok;) more interedujcie lights from the chassis because they shine all the time of takeoff and landing and can not be any switch them off; (This is a problem today to solve. !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pindol Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 ED manual, page 178 The "window direction" should be read "wind direction". Could you do photo editor as the setting waypoints and point to charge much I asked for photos and explanation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhivuchiy Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 ED manual page 177, 179 We have two different terms (heading deviation pointer / course deviation pointer) for the same component of the RMI. Which one is correct? I think the course deviation pointer/bar is the correct one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lino_Germany Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 the exact landing and taxi lights are ok;) more interedujcie lights from the chassis because they shine all the time of takeoff and landing and can not be any switch them off; (This is a problem today to solve. !!!! LIGHTING SYSTEM The aircraft lighting equipment is basically divided into three essential subsystems: exterior and interior lighting subsystems and warning, caution and advisory indicator subsystem. EXTERIOR LIGHTING The aircraft exterior lighting equipment consists of the following lights: - two landing/taxi lights - one left-hand red position light - one right-hand green position light - one tail, white position light - three white landing gear down lights, one on each landing gear POSITION LIGHTS (NAV LIGHTS) The NAV lights are controlled by two three-position switches, located on the right console auxiliary switch panel in the forward cockpit (position lights control panel "NAVIG. LIGHTS"): - Mode control - can be selected to flash position "FLICKER", middle OFF or steady "FIXED" position. - Intensity control "BRIGHTNESS" - can be selected to DIM (30%), BRT (60%) or MAX (100%). This switch functions only if the mode control switch is out of OFF position. The NAV lights are powered by 28 V DC and protected by the "NAV. LIGHTS/HAND LAMP" CB on the Aft CB/ Swich Panel in the forward cockpit. LANDING GEAR DOWN LIGHTS A white "landing gear down" light is mounted on each landing gear strut. The lights are automatically switched on, by a terminal switch, when the landing gear is extended, provided that the navigation light switch is not in OFF position. The circuit is protected by "NAV. LIGHTS/HAND LAMP" CB on the Aft CB/Switch Panel. Could you do photo editor as the setting waypoints and point to charge much I asked for photos and explanation http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2535283&postcount=1 Kind regards, Lino_Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Arrow Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 If we work on the premise that the original Aero L-39 manual is error-free, the problem is the definition of "larger all-round pattern". 1. Landing light filament Aero manual: Simulation: 2. Taxi light filament Aero manual: Simulation: All in all I think your elaboration is perfectly okay, because it gives an idea of what "larger all-round pattern" could mean. It is a pleasure to see that someone equalizes the partly bulky sections of the manual. The community will be grateful, me too. Well, also your screenshots show that it makes no sense to use the landing light in this implementation as the landing beam is not only narrower but even a bit shorter than the taxi light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lino_Germany Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) ...but even a bit shorter than the taxi light. Keep in mind that the aircraft stands on ground. The light beam of the landing light points more in direction of the aircrafts longitudinal axis. Edited November 24, 2015 by Lino_Germany Kind regards, Lino_Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Arrow Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Keep in mind that the aircraft stands on ground. The light beam of the landing light points more in direction of the aircrafts longitudinal axis. Lino, I also thought so - but it is not the case, the beam is the same when the aircraft is in the air. Look here please for situation before landing, the landing light does not help at all (55 metres above the ground): http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=153027 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lino_Germany Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) Lino, I also thought so - but it is not the case, the beam is the same when the aircraft is in the air. Look here please for situation before landing, the landing light does not help at all (55 metres above the ground): http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=153027 You are absolutely right, Dr_Arrow. After testing I also come to the conclusion that there is no benefit in using the landing lights. @derelor: If there are no plans by ED to fix this, all your explanations in the flight manual refer to the real L-39C and not the simulated one. Until now the "larger all-round pattern" rests with the taxi light. Edited November 24, 2015 by Lino_Germany Kind regards, Lino_Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeLKMT Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 If there are no plans by ED to fix this... Why wouldn't there be...? It's obviously a bug. As for the explanation, wide beam/narrow beam isn't really applicable here. That's how it might work on other planes where you have these light separated and with different lenses, but L-39 has only one reflector with different fillaments inside the lamp (and there's also a restriction of using the landing lights on ground). You can't change the illumination pattern (e.g. make it narrower) by turning up the power, that's why the real thing say "larger all-around pattern". That's all there is to it. ■ L-39C/ZA Czech cockpit mod ■ My DCS skins ■ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Groove Posted November 25, 2015 ED Team Share Posted November 25, 2015 Reported the taxilight bug. #32783 Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derelor Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 (edited) Here is the current updated version of pages 8-116. Please let us know if you find any errors or odd-sounding sentences. Edited January 9, 2016 by derelor 1338 - beyond leet ED Forum rules EN|DE|RU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctguy1955 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I have also been looking for a flight manual as I cant get some things to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lino_Germany Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 ED manual page 212 When engine operates from EFS: fuel regulator automatics and electrical stop valve do not operate; do not allow engine RPM drop of less than 56% at altitudes of up to 2000 m. and 60 % at altitudes of 2000 m; up to 2000 m. engine RPM should not exceed 103%, from 2000 m. and up to 8000 m. – 99%. changing engine operation mode from «IDLE» to «NOM» should take not less than 15 seconds; What does "altitudes of 2000 m" mean? For this specific flight altitude a specific thrust adjustment? Might it be the case that it should be read "and 60 % at altitudes of 2000 m and above"? Kind regards, Lino_Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhivuchiy Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 ED manual page 212 What does "altitudes of 2000 m" mean? For this specific flight altitude a specific thrust adjustment? Might it be the case that it should be read "and 60 % at altitudes of 2000 m and above"? I checked in russian manual, yes you are right. Should be: "and 60 % at altitudes of 2000 m and above" Thanks for feedback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lino_Germany Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 ED manual page 214 LANDING GEAR NON-EXTENSION (EMERGENCY GEAR EXTENSION) Symptoms: some (one or two) of three green lamps, indicating successful gear extraction, is/are off; mechanical flap pointers are not extended completely; mechanical flap pointers --> mechanical gear pointers Kind regards, Lino_Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derelor Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) Here is the current updated version of pages 6-140: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9t1bfi2ci38pxxn/6-140.pdf?dl=0 Please let us know if you find any errors or odd-sounding sentences. EDIT: Updated to p. 140 Edited January 12, 2016 by derelor 1338 - beyond leet ED Forum rules EN|DE|RU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lino_Germany Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 ED manual, page 219: "Forced Landing" I do not understand some contents of the "Forced Landing" chapter. Here is an extract: 1. What does "К maks." mean? Could it be the glide ratio "E" (lift to drag ratio) or the glide number "ε" or just horizontal distance? 2. Can someone explain the blue bordered equation? For me that didn´t make any sense. 3. Do I really need to know the height above sea level of the outer beacon of my emergency landing field? Kind regards, Lino_Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhivuchiy Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 1. K maks is an aerodynamic quality. https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D1%8D%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B5_%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%BE For L-39 Kmaks is 10. 2,3 Lglide is a gliding distance. Hflight is an initial altitude from which glide is started. HouterNDB is a control altitude over outer NDB, normally 1 km. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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