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"Hence why the F/A18C will be ( the first) proper Multi role aircraft in DCS......."

 

Would the Harrier be considered multirole? Or no because of it's limited A2A capabilites? Just curious, for argument's sake, because it really looks like that will be available to us before the Hornet is....

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see the m2000c isnt quite a a true multirole fighter however. Yes it can drop unguided bombs with CCIP and CCRP modes and or shoot off some rockets, but its independent strike capacity ends there, whiilst for GBU it needs external laser source.

 

IT can't self employ Precision guided munitions, it doesnt have targeting pods (pilot relies on "mk1 eyeball") thus it cant target or employ munitions from high altitudes safer from ground to air threats, it cant conduct SEAD( needs anti radiation missiles), it doesnt have a anti shipping role ( nothing like the Harpoon missile) it doesn't have Multi function displays/ glass pit.

 

Hence why the F/A18C will be ( the first) proper Multi role aircraft in DCS, It will be able to do a vast array of versatile functions M2000C can't, in a addition to being better in a2a due to having AMrams as well as ED giving us a more modern iteration with Aim9X and helmet mounted hud for off bore sight engagements. after all M2000C it realistically more of a 4th gen Fighter, that happens to have secondary ground strike capabilities which are mostly oriented around unguided weaponry and at that its a earlier 4th gen fighter.

Welp! It still kinda qualifies as a multi-role aircraft... ;)

 

Though I do get the point of it not being very good at it. :P

 

Still... I used it in multiplayer 1 time to bomb a runway... Let's say there was a certain lack of competence... Nuking the runway in the MiG-21bis went a bit better! :D

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"Hence why the F/A18C will be ( the first) proper Multi role aircraft in DCS......."

 

Would the Harrier be considered multirole? Or no because of it's limited A2A capabilites? Just curious, for argument's sake, because it really looks like that will be available to us before the Hornet is....

 

not quite For the reason you mention limited A2a, Its only got guns and a heatseakers primarily for self defense, Though OFC it can still potentially give faster AC a run for its money in a Close quarters WVR fights should they fall for that trap (as indiciated in

by 1st gen HArriers in falklands war) . Av8B has No A2A or even A2G mapping radar in the Night attack version we are getting. PLus its not a supersonic fighter. it still a merly a STVOL strike/ CAS subsonic attack jet. but given the active development news and sharing of videos yea it seems like a near certainty its gonna come out before F/A18.

 

 

Welp! It still kinda qualifies as a multi-role aircraft... ;)

 

Though I do get the point of it not being very good at it. :P

 

Still... I used it in multiplayer 1 time to bomb a runway... Let's say there was a certain lack of competence... Nuking the runway in the MiG-21bis went a bit better! :D

 

Sure but you cant quite compare Contventional - Nuclear ordiance. Besides most MP servers ban the nuke because it lags the server, aside from the fact its kinda OP to just lug nukes everywhere, and kinda out of place considering certain scenarios given that COld war never went hot nor have Atomic or NUclear type weapons been used since end of ww2 against another enemy.

 

whislt technically the MIg21's Nuclear explosion is not properly simulated anyways, Proably why Belsimtek, Did not give the F86F35 sabre any "special stores" even though realistically IRL it did actually capable of carrying tacical nuclear weapons, and module does does have working LABS for toss bombing Nukes ( which it doesnt have yet)

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not quite For the reason you mention limited A2a, Its only got guns and a heatseakers primarily for self defense, Though OFC it can still potentially give faster AC a run for its money in a Close quarters WVR fights should they fall for that trap (as indiciated in

by 1st gen HArriers in falklands war) and No A2A or even A2G mapping radar in the Night attack version we are getting. PLus its not a supersonic fighter. it still a meraly a STVOL strike/ CAS subsonic attack jet.

 

 

 

 

Sure but you cant quite compare Contventional - Nuclear ordiance. Besides most MP servers ban the nuke because it lags the server, aside from the fact its kinda OP to just lug nukes everywhere, and kinda out of place considering certain scenarios given that COld war never went hot nor have Atomic or NUclear type weapons been used since end of ww2 against another enemy.

 

whislt technically the MIg21's Nuclear explosion is not properly simulated anyways, Proably why Belsimtek, Did not give the F86F35 sabre any "special stores" even though realistically IRL it did actually capable of carrying tacical nuclear weapons, and module does does have working LABS for toss bombing Nukes ( which it doesnt have yet)

Yeah... ;)

 

Still, it sadly glitched out and didn't do anything... Gave us a glitching airfield tho! So it kinda did it's job. :P

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Hope one day there will be a DCS Vietnam theatre.

MiG-21bis check (wrong variant), MiG-19p check (being developed, wrong variant), F-4 missing, F-105 check (potential future project for RAZBAM), Huey check (wrong variant), AH-1 (being developed hopefully, but correct me if I'm wrong), map not being developed... And as far as I know, no A-1 being developed.

 

So with the massive exception of the F-4, A-1, and a Vietnam map. We should be good to go in about 1-2 years. Of course that's enough time for someone to start developing an F-4, Skyraider or the map.

 

As for my own wishlist: (not including currently developed/planned aircraft that I know of, aka F/A-18, F-14, MiG-19p, Mil-24, AH-1, AV-8 N/A, Panavia Tornado, and so on)

 

1) MiG-23 (A-A variant)

2) F-111/Su-24

3) AH-64

4) F-4

5) WW2 Russian or Japanese bird: A6M2, Ki-61, Yak-1/3, La-5

 

So luckily most of what I want is already here or coming. :D

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Errors in the post pointed out by Kev2go and some1, thanks!

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A-1 Skyraider. I have both of your FSX and SF models. Hope one day there will be a DCS Vietnam theatre.

 

I'd also love to have an A-1 Skyraider. Would make a brilliant old-school (up to 'Nam era) CAS and medium strike aircraft.

 

Other than that? Some later variant of the A-6 Intruder and for me the holy grail would be a Tornado GR4.

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Personal wish list: DCS: Su-27SM & DCS: Avro Vulcan.

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MiG-21bis check (wrong variant), MiG-19p check (being developed), F-4 missing, F-105 check (planned/being developed), Huey check, AH-1 (being developed hopefully, but correct me if I'm wrong), map not being developed... And as far as I know, no A-1 being developed.

 

So with the massive exception of the F-4, A-1, and a Vietnam map. We should be good to go in about 1-2 years. Of course that's enough time for someone to start developing an F-4, Skyraider or the map.

 

As for my own wishlist: (not including currently developed/planned aircraft that I know of, aka F/A-18, F-14, MiG-19p, Mil-24, AH-1, AV-8 N/A, Panavia Tornado, and so on)

 

1) MiG-23 (A-A variant)

2) F-111/Su-24

3) AH-64

4) F-4

5) WW2 Russian or Japanese bird: A6M2, Ki-61, Yak-1/3, La-5

 

So luckily most of what I want is already here or coming. :D

 

Except the Mig19P was not used in Vietnam either. also wrong variation for that theatre.

 

the chinese copy of the Mig19S the Shenyang J6 was used.

 

also technically speaking the Huey in question is also a post Vietnam era version.

 

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Except the Mig19P was not used in Vietnam either. also wrong variation for that theatre.

 

the chinese copy of the Mig19S the Shenyang J6 was used.

 

also technically speaking the Huey in question is also a post Vietnam era version.

Thanks, will correct my post!

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F-105 check (planned/being developed)

 

Not really.

 

Guys...this is way overboard...the F-105G is not scheduled yet..it's a picture i posted of a future project, please reffer to our roadmap for info

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Not really.

Ok, thx! Didn't see it and got a little bit too exited... :(

 

Will fix my post!

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Well, since we got a nice array of Iran-Iraq war planes, F-4E could be fun. Or MiG-25 to take on the F-14's...

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Well, since we got a nice array of Iran-Iraq war planes, F-4E could be fun. Or MiG-25 to take on the F-14's...

The MiG-25 would be great, but I would prefer the MiG-23 since it is a better fighter (the MiG-25 is a pure interceptor) and manually changing wing-sweep in a dogfight would be very interesting indeed. The truth is, we're never going to get neither.

 

The MiG-25 would have a BVR only play stile, since it can't do BFM. But the MiG-23 would offer a little worse BVR capability compensated for in BFM situations. In my opinion it's just a more flexible design. In my opinion the MiG-23 would have a far greater chance of taking on the all-mighty Turkey, because it still has a chance if the missiles fail.

 

So in my opinion the MiG-25 would be nice, but the MiG-23 nicer! And lets not forget about the F-4E also being very nice!

 

And if we were talking about pure dreams with no chance of ever happening. Full fidelity modules of early F-15s and MiG-29s, with AH-64 and Panavia Tornado/F-111 for the attack role would complete the Iraq scenario. But again those are dreams we are never going to see come true...

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Hi....i am interested in the Su-34.

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Mig-27 , real cold war plane.

 

 

 

 

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Hi....i am interested in the Su-34.

That would be nice as well! But we are newer going to get one, even if someone wanted to make one. The Russian secrecy is really not good for us simmers...

 

Maybe have the MiG-27, or Su-24/25? They would be way more likely to make their way into DCS due to being old, and containing relatively little advanced tech. Still not going to ever happen, no matter how much we want it.

 

Of course I would gladly be proven wrong, very gladly.

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The MiG-25 would be great, but I would prefer the MiG-23 since it is a better fighter (the MiG-25 is a pure interceptor) and manually changing wing-sweep in a dogfight would be very interesting indeed. The truth is, we're never going to get neither.

 

The MiG-25 would have a BVR only play stile, since it can't do BFM. But the MiG-23 would offer a little worse BVR capability compensated for in BFM situations. In my opinion it's just a more flexible design. In my opinion the MiG-23 would have a far greater chance of taking on the all-mighty Turkey, because it still has a chance if the missiles fail.

 

So in my opinion the MiG-25 would be nice, but the MiG-23 nicer! And lets not forget about the F-4E also being very nice!

 

And if we were talking about pure dreams with no chance of ever happening. Full fidelity modules of early F-15s and MiG-29s, with AH-64 and Panavia Tornado/F-111 for the attack role would complete the Iraq scenario. But again those are dreams we are never going to see come true...

 

Well, depends if it was P/PD/PDS, or R/RB/RBS... ;)

I'd even enjoy the recon variant, just for the heck of it. Though, in terms of economics and overall place in the DCS, I'd say fighter over bomber.

 

Then again, iirc, there were speculations that Razbam was denied the MiG-23 because someone else had it in plans...

 

but man

 

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I'd love the 23MLA (another plane that our airforce used... MiG-15bis, MiG-19P, MiG-23MLA - would be third full-fidelity module - if we do not count MiG-21bis - because of wrong variant ^^; - oh wait, Razbam, guys, please - make the MF/MFN :megalol: )

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Better to kill these speculations, so that we don't get disappointed when they turn out to not be true. And if they do, oh boy are we in for a good surprise!

 

Still have my hopes up for the fact that LN is "Cooking something", but they have said that they are not developing a MiG-23. Maybe something else Russian [su-15/22/24/25; MiG-25/29 (very early variant, full fidelity)], or some awesome Western designs, such as the: F-4; F-111; F-15 (full fidelity). Most likely though, they will be developing the P-38 (which would be awesome as well! The picture does seem to be hinting at it...).

 

As for the time being, better enjoy the awesome designs we are already getting!

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