britgliderpilot Posted July 13, 2006 Posted July 13, 2006 I'm just wondering if the precision zoomed in will be good enough that you can just use the a TrackIR and a joystick button mapped to "click" to run the clickable cockpit? I don't have a TrackIR, so don't know how accurate they can be - should be relatively easy to check out for anyone with a TrackIR with vector axis. See if you can aim your view accurately at a given switch or toggle in the Su25 or A10 pits . . . . Can anyone confirm? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg
Sleek Posted July 13, 2006 Posted July 13, 2006 I wouldn't know yet? good point. But i just had a thought..the x52 has a mouse ministick that emulates the mouse,so i guess u could zoom in with TIR then just move the mini stick to a clickable button then use the small button next to the ministick to click?..would be cool ;) Be Good..Be Strong..:drink: ;)
ALDEGA Posted July 13, 2006 Posted July 13, 2006 I don't have a TrackIR : shocked : After watching the latest video with the full startup (where the view was moved using a keyboard, not TIR), I really doubt you'd want to use TIR for that purpose. TIR could be interesting to quickly pan the view, but then you'd have to disable it (hotkey), use mouse or HOTAS mini-stick to select a knob/switch and activate it. Focusing steadily on a small object with TIR is too difficult and not very healthy (imho).
Sealpup Posted July 13, 2006 Posted July 13, 2006 Focusing steadily on a small object with TIR is too difficult and not very healthy (imho). I just got one of these things, and while I'll argue the 'not healthy' part, I will say it can be hard to stay focussed on something for a while. Then again, I've only had the thing for a day, so I'm not totally used to it.
britgliderpilot Posted July 13, 2006 Author Posted July 13, 2006 : shocked : After watching the latest video with the full startup (where the view was moved using a keyboard, not TIR), I really doubt you'd want to use TIR for that purpose. TIR could be interesting to quickly pan the view, but then you'd have to disable it (hotkey), use mouse or HOTAS mini-stick to select a knob/switch and activate it. Focusing steadily on a small object with TIR is too difficult and not very healthy (imho). If at normal zoom, I'd agree - wondering if vector expansion zoom will let you get in close enough for, say, a TrackIR 4 to have sufficient accuracy . . . . or does the same still apply? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg
*Rage* Posted July 13, 2006 Posted July 13, 2006 I really think it would be impractical for that purpose. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22
chris2802 Posted July 13, 2006 Posted July 13, 2006 I think they will probably work well together. In standard view it'd be quite hard to click the right switches, especially ones down the sides, but you could look right at the area where the switch is then click it with the mouse thingy. Have to see tho. OT - I wonder if the startup sequence is as involved as the clip on the TBS site. That would be sweet. Chris
britgliderpilot Posted July 13, 2006 Author Posted July 13, 2006 You're going to want to only use the clickable cockpit for non combat use. All of your important commands should be on your HOTAS. OK chaps, suggestions taken on board :) Just being able to sweep my head smoothly around a 3D pit to click something is going to be a good feeling - F4's 2D pit always annoyed me like that. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg
dynamocl Posted July 13, 2006 Posted July 13, 2006 If at normal zoom, I'd agree - wondering if vector expansion zoom will let you get in close enough for, say, a TrackIR 4 to have sufficient accuracy . . . . or does the same still apply? I suppose thats why god invented the F9 key. One hand on mouse, one hovering over F9, head moving feeely. Look up a swicth or dial, F9, move mouse click, F9. After a while it comes natural and quick/easy. It's the way I use FS2004 3D cockpits. Simple one click switchs can be used without disabling TIR, but dials that requires the mouse to remain stationary for 5 seconds plus, I would imagine F9 will come in to play.
britgliderpilot Posted July 13, 2006 Author Posted July 13, 2006 Imagine how nice that's gonna feel in a few years in a bright, shiny F16CJ. Not as good as it'd feel in an Su33 :P 1 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg
S77th-konkussion Posted July 13, 2006 Posted July 13, 2006 Not as good as it'd feel in an Su33 :P :clap_2::clap_2::clap_2: [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC]
VMFA-Blaze Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 If at normal zoom, I'd agree - wondering if vector expansion zoom will let you get in close enough for, say, a TrackIR 4 to have sufficient accuracy . . . . or does the same still apply? The TR4 will allow you to zoom in as accuratley as if you have the zoom toggled to your hotas or key board, but as Rugg explained, its not really good to try to click an switches or buttons in the cockpit while in combat as you'll lose your outside vision momentarly and could get blownaway !!! If you have a HOTAS its best to set up these buttons for fighting... 6DOF is very cool and is extremley realistic but you really don't want to be looking at gauges or switches in the middle of a fur ball (LOL)... It's perfecto in start up though without a doubt (HEH).. Why don't you get one BGP???? I'll increase your immersion more than any other device available, I really couldn't do without it now ~S~ Blaze intel Cor i7-6700K ASUS ROG MAX VIII Extreme G.Skill TridentZ Series 32 GB Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SATA II ASUS GTX 1080/DIRECTX 12 Windows 10 PRO Thrustmaster Warthog Oculus Rift VR
britgliderpilot Posted July 14, 2006 Author Posted July 14, 2006 The TR4 will allow you to zoom in as accuratley as if you have the zoom toggled to your hotas or key board, but as Rugg explained, its not really good to try to click an switches or buttons in the cockpit while in combat as you'll lose your outside vision momentarly and could get blownaway !!! If you have a HOTAS its best to set up these buttons for fighting... 6DOF is very cool and is extremley realistic but you really don't want to be looking at gauges or switches in the middle of a fur ball (LOL)... It's perfecto in start up though without a doubt (HEH).. Why don't you get one BGP???? I'll increase your immersion more than any other device available, I really couldn't do without it now ~S~ Blaze I've been meaning to get one for a while - two reasons. The first is money - I'm a penniless student and it seems every week a letter arrives wanting another hundred quid for room next year, parking next year, car tax . . . . The second is that I don't want to be mercilessly ribbed by my housemates for yet another attachment to my simming equipment collection :P Granted you can't use it for switches in combat, but if a TrackIR-driven startup IS possible, it'd rock. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg
S77th-ReOrdain Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 BGP, My guess would be that if your roomies saw you sweeping the interior of your aircraft with suttle head movements (leaning forward slightly to get a better view of the ground over your cockpit), they'd finally understand and leave you be, or become curious. Headgear is not that obtrusive. Just a clip on your favorite cap (or mic/headset). However, clipping vector sensors on mic/headset will tend to give you the look of an insect. 1
33rd_bratpfanne. Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 However, clipping vector sensors on mic/headset will tend to give you the look of an insect.:megalol: :megalol: :megalol: :megalol: :megalol: So True !! u made my Day mate! S! Brati "Helicopters can't fly; they're just so ugly the earth repels them." (THX Rich :thumbup: )
G3 Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 agreed even if not for combat, startup and general cockpit usage in a mission on the way to a conflict would be interesting using the trackir, if you were to dumb down the curve in the middle or use the (i think either the) f7 or f8 key, that slows the movement down dramatically...this might increase the ability to focus on the instruments with greater precision. hey britgliderpilot, believe people when they say you will be impressed. hell when using my trackir i sometimes forget i have a family so i am sure your housemates won't bother you when flying as they will vitually not exist. and you are a student, surely you know what its like not to eat for a few days :)
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