530 missile effectiveness

[Rlaxoxo]

I'm cleaning my periferals right now to be ready for patch. Great job Razbam!

 

Funny how ED made us hyped for each friday now : D

 

Tho sometime this might come and bit us in the ass cus We have started to expect much

[atonium83]

Funny how ED made us hyped for each friday now : D

 

Tho sometime this might come and bit us in the ass cus We have started to expect much

 

Yeah but 2 updates for friday ( one for each version of the sim) will be better than one per weeks :thumbup:

[Enduro14]

Yeah but 2 updates for friday ( one for each version of the sim) will be better than one per weeks :thumbup:

 

Agreed!

[Rlaxoxo]

Yeah but 2 updates for friday ( one for each version of the sim) will be better than one per weeks :thumbup:

 

I think Programmers needs to sleep once in a while ^^

[atonium83]

I think Programmers needs to sleep once in a while ^^

 

That's right too !

[Kelevra]

I was wondering why I couldn't get a hit with those 530.

 

Getting whacked by Mig21 in PvP...

Getting obliterated by Mig23 in the PvE Air Missiles vanilla mission...

[Chelco]

I can't hit anything with those missiles. Are those missile modeling issues going to be addressed some time or they are supposed to be that way?

 

Cheers,

[mattebubben]

I can't hit anything with those missiles. Are those missile modeling issues going to be addressed some time or they are supposed to be that way?

 

Cheers,

 

Are you using the updated missiles?

 

There are 2 sets of missiles.

 

The ones that starts with Matra are the Razbam missiles that have been updated.

 

They are pretty good.

 

But problem now is not the missiles themselves.

 

its mostly about Employment.

 

With the Magic II still being boresight only

 

and the radar loosing lock very easily against anything but a target flying straight and level.

(thus making shots with the Super 530 against manuvering targets very unreliable unless at point blank)

[myHelljumper]

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and the radar loosing lock very easily against anything but a target flying straight and level.

(thus making shots with the Super 530 against manuvering targets very unreliable unless at point blank)

 

Thank you, I was thinking that I was dumb with the radar losing track :D

[Chelco]

Are you using the updated missiles?

 

There are 2 sets of missiles.

 

The ones that starts with Matra are the Razbam missiles that have been updated.

 

They are pretty good.

 

But problem now is not the missiles themselves.

 

its mostly about Employment.

 

With the Magic II still being boresight only

 

and the radar loosing lock very easily against anything but a target flying straight and level.

(thus making shots with the Super 530 against manuvering targets very unreliable unless at point blank)

 

Hi. Thanks for your response. Yes I'm using the updated "Matra"-tagged ones.

So, you mean is a radar issue?

 

Cheers,

[mattebubben]

Hi. Thanks for your response. Yes I'm using the updated "Matra"-tagged ones.

So, you mean is a radar issue?

 

Cheers,

 

If the problem is that you loose lock then yes.

 

but if you maintain the lock and the missile just misses then no.

 

But if you loose radar lock the missile will always miss.

[Chelco]

Thanks again.

Sometimes I lose radar lock at the very last few seconds and the missile goes to the dumpster. As you mentioned it, it happens when the bandit starts maneuvering.

I got a kill with a 530 yesterday. Rear aspect, 6 miles (?!) range. Those missiles make you feel like the dawn of the missile age.

 

Cheers,

[mattebubben]

but the upside of having things and missiles not work 100% is its so much more rewarding when you splash a F-15 or Su-27 in multiplayer xD

[jojo]

Thanks again.

Sometimes I lose radar lock at the very last few seconds and the missile goes to the dumpster. As you mentioned it, it happens when the bandit starts maneuvering.

I got a kill with a 530 yesterday. Rear aspect, 6 miles (?!) range. Those missiles make you feel like the dawn of the missile age.

 

Cheers,

 

Please what altitude and speeds ?

Try with AIM-7M and R-27R too see if it's better or not...

[Chelco]

but the upside of having things and missiles not work 100% is its so much more rewarding when you splash a F-15 or Su-27 in multiplayer xD

 

LOL. True! Like the guy who bought shoes two sizes smaller than his feet "just for the satisfaction of taking them off at the end of the day". :)

[Chelco]

Please what altitude and speeds ?

Try with AIM-7M and R-27R too see if it's better or not...

 

Hi jojo,

 

5,000 ft AGL, 560 kt.

You mean try those missiles in other aircraft?

 

Thanks,

[TomCatMucDe]

I think I can agree wth the op.

I use Matra and keep lock till the end with much less success than before the update. One I saw my missile sky rocketed in the end for no reason at all.

 

I am currently wasting way too many 530D. The 550 are working just fine

[karl_T]

Hello. What happened with the effectiveness of missile 530 after the last update?

Previously, you could successfully launch a rocket if you just came in dead zone, and now despite virtually no authorization fails to hit the target that although some weapons (foil, maneuvers). The necessary distance to fire is ridiculously low. I tested on a mission Mirage vs MiG 21.

The effectiveness of Magic 2 improved, but 530 are now unusable.

Same here. Can't hit diddly squat since last update. I'm done until final release. Every update seems to make it worse.

[jojo]

Hi jojo,

 

5,000 ft AGL, 560 kt.

You mean try those missiles in other aircraft?

 

Thanks,

 

Yes, try the same conditions with F-15 and MiG 29 (if you can) Vs anything that can fly 560kt at 5000ft.

 

It's pretty low indeed, and you would have just a few more than 10Nm on front aspect target.

[Armored_Sheep]

I have opposite experience. Yesterday I splashed Mig-29A several times with Super 530. Are you sure that you launch in STT ?

[westr]

It does seem to vary depending on opponent. For example, flew against two F-5s and continuosly kept loosing radar lock. Shot countless number of missiles before I got a hit. Then as somebody mentioned. Tried against the Mig-29a and had success at a reasonable range too around 10nm I believe.

[jojo]

You have to check Chaff release with Tacview to get an idea. Maybe it's that old trick...

[Chelco]

I have opposite experience. Yesterday I splashed Mig-29A several times with Super 530. Are you sure that you launch in STT ?

 

I am in STT ...

 

The only Mig 29 kill I got was after the sucker stalled his engine. :)

 

Thanks,

[RoflSeal]

I am in STT ...

 

The only Mig 29 kill I got was after the sucker stalled his engine. :)

 

Thanks,

 

I don't think MiG-29 AI can stall its engine.

[Chelco]

The events log showed an engine shutdown, though. I've hit him with the guns a good five minutes earlier but I don't think it was enough to explain why his engine quited ...

 

Anyway,